So Elko is bringing Allen Gaudet and Shaun Cook with him from Duke to be director of player personnel & assistant director of player personnel.

While I love some of the coaching hires so far, these personnel roles are a lot less encouraging. When you look at recruiting at Duke under Elko, I would argue they massively underperformed.

Here are the stats from the past 3 years compared to similar schools in the ACC.

DUKE
5 stars: 0
4 stars: 2

LOUISVILLE
5 stars: 0
4 stars: 10

UNC
5 stars: 4
4 stars: 25

WAKE FOREST
5 stars: 0
4 stars: 4

It's Duke. Compare those years before Elko and Cutcliff.

Are you freakin' serious? What, you expect Duke to be pulling multiple 4 and 5 star recruits? You must know nothing about the school, and more to the point, the academic requirements to get in.

Delete thread, ban user.

Is the money less green with these guys?

These guys aren't recruiters. They are supposed to manage the roster, stay on top of the portal, and help to make sure that everyone is on the same page about needs and who our ace recruiter should be focusing on.

rangerdanger said:

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Is the money less green with these guys?

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Academic requirements to get in.

I don't expect the same type of numbers as A&M, but yes, I would expect Duke to have similar recruiting success to programs like Wake Forest, UNC, & Louisville. If we have the ability to grab anyone in the nation to oversee our personnel & recruiting, I think we can do better than a guy who has 1 total year of experience directing personnel at Duke.

Also gtfo with UNC. They are lead be the greatest recruiting head coach in college football history.

UNC, did they work there? If so, that's not bad frankly and no complaints (as it's still UNC in football).

E.KING.REALDEAL said:

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I don't expect the same type of numbers as A&M, but yes, I would expect Duke to have similar recruiting success to programs like Wake Forest, UNC, & Louisville. If we have the ability to grab anyone in the nation to oversee our personnel & recruiting, I think we can do better than a guy who has 1 total year of experience directing personnel at Duke.

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Have you seen the number of 5 stars they get in Basketball?

OP, do you realize where Duke falls in the peeking order of recruiting don't you? It looks like you are trying to find something wrong with what Elko is building. Or you're bad at trolling. One of the two or both.

E.KING.REALDEAL said:

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I don't expect the same type of numbers as A&M, but yes, I would expect Duke to have similar recruiting success to programs like Wake Forest, UNC, & Louisville. If we have the ability to grab anyone in the nation to oversee our personnel & recruiting, I think we can do better than a guy who has 1 total year of experience directing personnel at Duke.

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Wake Forest, UNC, and Louisville are all much better football schools than Duke. Also these guys are not the recruiters. They are the ones that organize everything and give the coaches what they need to recruit.


Also Allen Gaudet was a part of our recruiting staff a couple years ago.

Lol, you might have a bit of a misconception of what these guys jobs are. They aren't recruiters.

While these positions are not recruiters, in the "Age of Portal", they be as important maybe more. Identifying and maintaining an elite roster is a full time job.

usmcbrooks said:

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It's Duke. Compare those years before Elko and Cutcliff.

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More importantly how are those 2 * and 3 * playing? They beat Clemson who is full of 4* and 5*. So that tells you 2 things: 1) player evaluations are elite, 2) they can develop players….. they do more with less

tiger90 said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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It's Duke. Compare those years before Elko and Cutcliff.

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More importantly how are those 2 * and 3 * playing? They beat Clemson who is full of 4* and 5*. So that tells you 2 things: 1) player evaluations are elite, 2) they can develop players….. they do more with less

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Looks like we are going to have a lot less for the foreseeable future with all our players entering the portal. Hopefully, we can make due. Wonder what the roster talent composite will be after this transfer season.

Derek Miller is the GM/Director of Player Personnel. The 2 new guys today report to Derek.

tiger90 said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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It's Duke. Compare those years before Elko and Cutcliff.

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More importantly how are those 2 * and 3 * playing? They beat Clemson who is full of 4* and 5*. So that tells you 2 things: 1) player evaluations are elite, 2) they can develop players….. they do more with less

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How many 4- and 5-star players did Sumlin have in year one? JFF was a 3 star as was Evans(I believe maybe lower). Hard to develop some 4- and 5-star players when they already think they know everything.

Glad we got these guys on board so quickly.

lagoag said:

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OP, do you realize where Duke falls in the peeking order of recruiting don't you? It looks like you are trying to find something wrong with what Elko is building. Or you're bad at trolling. One of the two or both.

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The "peeking order" tells you which duck gets cooked first.

Send OP to Gaza.