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I think this is more reason why its Traylor or Elko

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OBJTEX
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https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/11/15/texas-a-m-searching-for-next-rc-slocum-jeff-traylor-mike-elko-fit-bill?ref=article_preview_title

Divining Rod
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All these Traylor prop-ups. His agent is hard at work.
OBJTEX
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Funny. He would do great things in Aggieland if given enough time.

For the record, this post did not cone after his agent offered me $1500 to post it.
vander54
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I don't think it will either but I'll take Elko over Traylor
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lagoag
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vander54 said:

I don't think it will either but I'll take Elko over Traylor
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rgag12
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All the sips in the office think Traylor would be a "great fit" for A&M. That should tell you everything you need to know.

If it's between the two "meh" candidates in Elko and Traylor you choose Elko 10 out of 10
OBJTEX
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lagoag said:

vander54 said:

I don't think it will either but I'll take Elko over Traylor
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Traylor is politicking for it.

At least we know he wants to be here. Id be fine with either and i'd argue that is who we will select from
Sq 17
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Traylor is the in case of emergency brake glass pick

Making him appear like he was always on the shortlist makes it better if we can't get one of the top four or five guys one he gets the job and we don't have the embarrassment the Tennessee or Texas had the last time they went looking for a coach
South Platte
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Sq 17 said:

Traylor is the in case of emergency brake glass pick

Making him appear like he was always on the shortlist makes it better if we can't get one of the top four or five guys one he gets the job and we don't have the embarrassment the Tennessee or Texas had the last time they went looking for a coach
No, you just tear up Jimbo's termination agreement and keep him around for another year.
NyAggie
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Sq 17 said:

Traylor is the in case of emergency brake glass pick

Making him appear like he was always on the shortlist makes it better if we can't get one of the top four or five guys one he gets the job and we don't have the embarrassment the Tennessee or Texas had the last time they went looking for a coach
I think Traylor is being shoved into Ross's face by media, BMA's and other folks around the program so he has no choice ut to interview the guy and keep him "under consideration"

Fanatic15...Drs2B!
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WE DON'T WANT ANY TRAYLOR TRASH!!!
Fatboy Thaddeus
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Oh shoot I forgot all about DCTF!

'member how they used to be operated by Hill Country, primary PR firm for the sips?

TexAgs does

pointer74
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Traylor is over rated and not even close to being ready for a program like A&Ms

Texas Tech or U of H is his level right now
OBJTEX
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Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

WE DON'T WANT ANY TRAYLOR TRASH!!!


Funny
OBJTEX
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Fyi, the company that does those austinites also reps Texas A&M. Learfield.
njohn87
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I think Traylor has done excellent work at UTSA, but it seems like his biggest strength is his ability to tap his Texas HS connections and find talent in the dusty corners of the state; which I think would be a bit wasted here when the resources and expectation are such that we're going for the top-line talent..

Maybe he'd also prove an effective CEO here and player manager here; but that's not projectable based on his current body of work. I think he'll make a great coach for Baylor or Houston or TCU or Tech, though.
aggiedad55
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OBJTEX said:

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/11/15/texas-a-m-searching-for-next-rc-slocum-jeff-traylor-mike-elko-fit-bill?ref=article_preview_title


If A&M gets another RC Slocum then there won't be many bowl games won. Out of all the bowls the Ag's went to under Slocum they only won two. Too conservative of an offense was always Coach Slocum's downfall. He depended too much on his defense to control the game.
OBJTEX
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aggiedad55 said:

OBJTEX said:

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/11/15/texas-a-m-searching-for-next-rc-slocum-jeff-traylor-mike-elko-fit-bill?ref=article_preview_title


If A&M gets another RC Slocum then there won't be many bowl games won. Out of all the bowls the Ag's went to under Slocum they only won two. Too conservative of an offense was always Coach Slocum's downfall. He depended too much on his defense to control the game.


I think a modern RC Slocum is what the referral is about.

Of course, the style of play will be different as football is different.

He still is the most successful coach in our history.
Jason Stegent
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It's going to be a big name, I believe. A really big name.

You don't shell out $76M for a guy to leave and not bring in a big name behind him.
oldschool87
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rgag12 said:

All the sips in the office think Traylor would be a "great fit" for A&M. That should tell you everything you need to know.

If it's between the two "meh" candidates in Elko and Traylor you choose Elko 10 out of 10


Right because they are experts in picking coaches!!!!
BartInLA
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My odds that it is Elko is 78%
offenseguru
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Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.
OBJTEX
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offenseguru said:

Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.


Disagree. Winning is what gets players nationally.

He is not my top choice but he will do great things here if he is the selection.

Id hire Lanning but he is looking unavailable. Traylor is great second or third choice.
StinkyPinky
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NyAggie said:

Sq 17 said:

Traylor is the in case of emergency brake glass pick

Making him appear like he was always on the shortlist makes it better if we can't get one of the top four or five guys one he gets the job and we don't have the embarrassment the Tennessee or Texas had the last time they went looking for a coach
I think Traylor is being shoved into Ross's face by media, BMA's and other folks around the program so he has no choice ut to interview the guy and keep him "under consideration"




Someone gets it. This is a huge marketing push to get the market to warm up to him for tier 1 jobs in the future.
DecadePlan
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Take whichever one will offset Jimbo's salary.
one safe place
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OBJTEX said:

lagoag said:

vander54 said:

I don't think it will either but I'll take Elko over Traylor
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Traylor is politicking for it.

At least we know he wants to be here. Id be fine with either and i'd argue that is who we will select from
The way we do contracts, the way we do extensions, the way we throw around money, I suspect the line of those who want to be here is rather long.
rgag12
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OBJTEX said:

offenseguru said:

Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.


Disagree. Winning is what gets players nationally.

He is not my top choice but he will do great things here if he is the selection.

Id hire Lanning but he is looking unavailable. Traylor is great second or third choice.


Jimbo was able to pull 4 and 5 star guys nationally because he had skins on the wall. "Come play for me, I've won a natty and know what it takes to get it done. We are building that here, come be a part of it."

Traylor has no such skins, and can't make that pitch. He also has never been a DC or OC that has won a natty or coached a heisman winner (Sark or anybody from UGA/Bama). All Traylor can say is that he knows how to beat Western Kentucky when it matters.

Traylor would be able to maybe keep us in the conversation for some of the top Texas players like we are now. He has nothing to sell the 4 star or 5 star in GA or FL. He'd have to rely on his staff to pull a bunnies out their hats
TxAg76
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OBJTEX said:

offenseguru said:

Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.


Disagree. Winning is what gets players nationally.

He is not my top choice but he will do great things here if he is the selection.

Id hire Lanning but he is looking unavailable. Traylor is great second or third choice.


What is this infatuation with "recruiting nationally"?
Ever heard Urban's take on "having" to recruit too far beyond your home state?
He turned down NDame and went to UF instead for that very reason.

And if you're eventually winning big, the national interest will happen naturally
stestro
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Jason Stegent said:

It's going to be a big name, I believe. A really big name.

You don't shell out $76M for a guy to leave and not bring in a big name behind him.
A big name? How many letters are we talking?
GeeBee
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Wasn't Chad Morris supposedly the correct hire after Sumlin because "he was plugged into all the Texas highschools" and would be a recruiting juggernaut?

How'd that work out once he got a SEC job?

Sounds like the same arguments are being made for Traylor
runontexas
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How about Co-Coaches? #MakeItHappen
StinkyPinky
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rgag12 said:

OBJTEX said:

offenseguru said:

Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.


Disagree. Winning is what gets players nationally.

He is not my top choice but he will do great things here if he is the selection.

Id hire Lanning but he is looking unavailable. Traylor is great second or third choice.


Jimbo was able to pull 4 and 5 star guys nationally because he had skins on the wall. "Come play for me, I've won a natty and know what it takes to get it done. We are building that here, come be a part of it."

Traylor has no such skins, and can't make that pitch. He also has never been a DC or OC that has won a natty or coached a heisman winner (Sark or anybody from UGA/Bama). All Traylor can say is that he knows how to beat Western Kentucky when it matters.

Traylor would be able to maybe keep us in the conversation for some of the top Texas players like we are now. He has nothing to sell the 4 star or 5 star in GA or FL. He'd have to rely on his staff to pull a bunnies out their hats


While I agree Jimbo is a good recruiter, but I'd also suggest the other coaches played a large part in the success, and my gut tells me the biggest factor is the facilities. You know recruits fall in love with the state of the art facilities and the thought of playing in front of 105k+ people every home game.
milner79
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OBJTEX said:

aggiedad55 said:

OBJTEX said:

https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2023/11/15/texas-a-m-searching-for-next-rc-slocum-jeff-traylor-mike-elko-fit-bill?ref=article_preview_title


If A&M gets another RC Slocum then there won't be many bowl games won. Out of all the bowls the Ag's went to under Slocum they only won two. Too conservative of an offense was always Coach Slocum's downfall. He depended too much on his defense to control the game.


I think a modern RC Slocum is what the referral is about.

Of course, the style of play will be different as football is different.

He still is the most successful coach in our history.

Good man. But had an abysmal November record.
Bill Superman
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If we hire Traylor we're doomed and deserve to lie in the bed we made.


rgag12
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StinkyPinky said:

rgag12 said:

OBJTEX said:

offenseguru said:

Traylor will not be able to recruit nationally. And it is going to take that level to win like we expect.


Disagree. Winning is what gets players nationally.

He is not my top choice but he will do great things here if he is the selection.

Id hire Lanning but he is looking unavailable. Traylor is great second or third choice.


Jimbo was able to pull 4 and 5 star guys nationally because he had skins on the wall. "Come play for me, I've won a natty and know what it takes to get it done. We are building that here, come be a part of it."

Traylor has no such skins, and can't make that pitch. He also has never been a DC or OC that has won a natty or coached a heisman winner (Sark or anybody from UGA/Bama). All Traylor can say is that he knows how to beat Western Kentucky when it matters.

Traylor would be able to maybe keep us in the conversation for some of the top Texas players like we are now. He has nothing to sell the 4 star or 5 star in GA or FL. He'd have to rely on his staff to pull a bunnies out their hats


While I agree Jimbo is a good recruiter, but I'd also suggest the other coaches played a large part in the success, and my gut tells me the biggest factor is the facilities. You know recruits fall in love with the state of the art facilities and the thought of playing in front of 105k+ people every home game.


We had good facilities and a big fan base under Sumlin and it didn't matter to recruits. A bunch of SEC schools (that aren't Bama or UGA) have large stadiums and immaculate facilities yet they don't win.

There are three things that matter to the best 4 or 5 star recruits:
1. Can you develop me into an NFL player and do you have a track record of getting guys in the league
2. Can we win a lot (Winning is fun and also boosts eyeballs on me)
3. How much money can you pay me now?
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