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Is Elijah Robinson a viable candidate?

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kbarj
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I was watching a talking head podcast (don't remember which one) and the comments on Robinson (great recruiter, excellent position coach and coordinator, players love him) intrigued me. If he coaches lights out for the rest of the year, does he have a chance? I don't know his history, but he seems young to be where he is. Maybe we have our own up and comer.

Edit to add: Right after those comments, they jumped right to the "list of hot coaches" and spent a lot more time there.
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riverrataggie
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He should be looked at for sure over these next several games. He no doubt has been given a good chance here.
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DrZ
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considering the last five years at A&M concentrating on diversity it will be interesting if this comes into play.

lagoag
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I hope he is.
Double Diamond
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No.
aggiebrad94
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I hope he is the next Associate Head Coach.
Double Diamond
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You don't pay 76 million to go this direction. They've got to bring in somebody who has been a head coach.
TXAGBQ76
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He's the defensive line coach
kbarj
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Apparently he was made the assistant head coach in January of 2022.
Bill '77
halfastros81
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It would be very risky without any track record as a coordinator much less hc. I don't see taking that risk at this point in time. There could also be huge upside if it were successful but I just can't see it
Womackster
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Double Diamond said:

You don't pay 76 million to go this direction. They've got to bring in somebody who has been a head coach.


Not necessarily. If they do pick a head coach, he better be young. We have a history of hiring on seasoned head coaches just as they are washing up.
P.U.T.U
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Depends on how we do the next few games. If we do well they may give him a chance, he doesn't call plays so let the OC and DC do their thing while he manages the team.

Been hearing a few former players talk about keeping Robinson and bringing in more young coaches, mostly with ties to the program. One being current Texans QB coach Jerrod Johnson.

At this point I am just in this for the entertainment value. BAS makes me not get my hopes up no matter who is the coach. With a $76 million buyout I don't see us going after anyone with a major current buyout since we would be throwing down another $50 million+ for that coach. But it is not my money so do what they want
The Chicken Ranch
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I hope so. It makes a lot of sense.
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TAMU74
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He should be considered along with Bobby Petrino.
I'm not suggesting that either one should be the next head coach.
Now that the Arkansas job has become available Petrino might head back there.
Uncle Jimbo
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It should definitely be strongly considered.

The vast majority of successful current HC's had no head coaching experience prior to their current job. If Robinson has the rapport nationally (and the funding) to hire really good assistants, then you let him manage the program and recruit and it has the potential to be great.

There are really only 2 things we absolutely CAN'T do:

1. Throw a boatload of money at a washed up retread to make a splash.

2. Hire Elijah Robinson and then let him keep the entire rest of the existing coaching staff, then pretend everything will be different with all the same staff around except for one guy.

Both are incredibly Aggie things to do.
20ag07
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He should be considered along with Bobby Petrino.
I'm not suggesting that either one should be the next head coach.
Now that the Arkansas job has become available Petrino might head back there.
Why do people keep saying this dumb crap.

Did you see Petrino's 2nd stint at Louisville?

No P5 team is hiring him as a head coach.

Anyone who thinks this is living in the past of over a decade ago.

That dude flamed out at a place Brohm whipped into a top10 team in a year.
Dr Lane Trowlan
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No, he's not.
Run The Damn Ball
halfastros81
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I don't see Petrino back at Arkansas after he was fired for lying to the AD.
ElephantRider
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He deserves a look, but ultimately I doubt we would give it to him
Gigem713
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The players love eRob.
20ag07
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I don't see Petrino back at Arkansas after he was fired for lying to the AD
Well, to be fair, Arky fired that AD too.

Then so did Kansas, after he hired Les Miles without vetting him.

Arky isn't going to hire Petrino because he has done nothing since he was canned by them, and got fired for flaming out at his reclamation shot at Louisville.

People can keep pretending he's a candidate bc he did something 15 years ago though.
halfastros81
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Yeah I know that AD is long gone from Arky but he still lied to his boss at Arky and they fired him for it. Your point that he hasn't really done anything in a long time is also very true but even if he had I don't think they'd consider him.
hogfan14
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halfastros81 said:

Yeah I know that AD is long gone from Arky but he still lied to his boss at Arky and they fired him for it. Your point that he hasn't really done anything in a long time is also very true but even if he had I don't think they'd consider him.
They legally can't anyway because UA system policy prevents employees from being re-hired after being terminated for cause
halfastros81
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There ya go. Thanks.
jturner181
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He does not check most of the boxes Ross outlined... so I would say long term, no, he will not be the face of Texas A&M.

However, I do think he could continue to contribute, be part of the new staff, and grow into a bigger role.
NyAggie
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20ag07 said:

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I don't see Petrino back at Arkansas after he was fired for lying to the AD
Well, to be fair, Arky fired that AD too.

Then so did Kansas, after he hired Les Miles without vetting him.

Arky isn't going to hire Petrino because he has done nothing since he was canned by them, and got fired for flaming out at his reclamation shot at Louisville.

People can keep pretending he's a candidate bc he did something 15 years ago though.
Arkansas fans absolutely LOVE petrino, and I think if they clamor loudly enough their administration might listen and make the hire.

it can't be any worse than any of their hires since petrino was fired.

Gyles Marrett
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Anyone that says no to this doesn't understand how valuable and quality of coach E. Rob is. Just because he works on Fisher's staff it's unintelligent to just tie him to Fisher. We've given the guy a raise every year afraid he's going to leave for a DC job or a head job. Last season we did so and made him Associate Head Coach title.

He is the recruiting talent on our staff. Wasn't Jimbo. His position group is the championship level group on our team. Most importantly in college football coaching which is often overlooked is the players absolutely LOVE this guy. Many have referred to him as a father figure. Players on that team would take a bullet for the guy. Players want to play for a guy like that. 100% guarantee you if you asked the team they'd be completely behind him as the hire and you'd likely see a lot less transfer.

Hire him as head coach, he's a defensive mind so let him decide which direction we go with DC and go find an exciting and talented OC that will know now that he has full control of the offense which they all knew they wouldn't when Jimbo was making the OC search.

If you don't understand that he should get very very strong consideration and just think we need to go dump another truck load of cash to some other established name you really don't understand anything about Elijah Robinson as a coach.
Gyles Marrett
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jturner181 said:

He does not check most of the boxes Ross outlined... so I would say long term, no, he will not be the face of Texas A&M.

However, I do think he could continue to contribute, be part of the new staff, and grow into a bigger role.
Please explain how he doesn't check the boxes he outlined? lol
boyfriend
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He's an elite recruiter, players love him (culture guy) and a big factor is that he could probably keep most of the talented 2022 recruiting class on board as well as the current recruiting class.

Can he be a successful CEO head coach? Could he be like our non Cajun version of ED O and hire quality assistants and let them do their jobs? Coach Prime is another example of this model as well as Dabo from fifteen years ago at Clemson.

The biggest question mark is can he manage an organization like this with no experience? Is he organized enough to handle the day to day operations as head coach? I bet someone within the ADs office knows enough to make a judgement.

Hopefully Coach E is apart of the new staff in some form because he will be coveted everywhere in the nation if he leaves including our SEC rivals.
Kenneth_2003
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Uncle Jimbo said:

It should definitely be strongly considered.

The vast majority of successful current HC's had no head coaching experience prior to their current job. If Robinson has the rapport nationally (and the funding) to hire really good assistants, then you let him manage the program and recruit and it has the potential to be great.

There are really only 2 things we absolutely CAN'T do:

1. Throw a boatload of money at a washed up retread to make a splash.

2. Hire Elijah Robinson and then let him keep the entire rest of the existing coaching staff, then pretend everything will be different with all the same staff around except for one guy.

Both are incredibly Aggie things to do.
If we did #2 with minor changes and found immediate success, I think it would show that the problem truly did lie at the top. There's undoubtedly some folks that need to be replaced, but is the whole staff trash?

If Robinson can steady the ship I'll be very interested to see what happens in Baton Rouge. If we were to win there, it might substantially change the calculus and even change the portal game.
Gyles Marrett
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boyfriend said:

He's an elite recruiter, players love him (culture guy) and a big factor is that he could probably keep most of the talented 2022 recruiting class on board as well as the current recruiting class.

Can he be a successful CEO head coach? Could he be like our non Cajun version of ED O and hire quality assistants and let them do their jobs? Coach Prime is another example of this model as well as Dabo from fifteen years ago at Clemson.

The biggest question mark is can he manage an organization like this with no experience? Is he organized enough to handle the day to day operations as head coach? I bet someone within the ADs office knows enough to make a judgement.

Hopefully Coach E is apart of the new staff in some form because he will be coveted everywhere in the nation if he leaves including our SEC rivals.
Why do people seem to be asking that question about him yet don't seem to be worried about that for another top assistant like the guy from Georgia?

E. Rob is extremely intelligent and knows exactly what he's doing. Managing the organization and handling the day to day will not be overwhelming for him.
TX_Aggie37
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I believe Ross said in his press conference that head coaching experience was something that they were looking for, but you absolutely have to find a way to keep Robinson on staff.

If he coaches well and the team performs over the next two weeks, he's in the discussion.
boyfriend
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Gyles Marrett said:

boyfriend said:

He's an elite recruiter, players love him (culture guy) and a big factor is that he could probably keep most of the talented 2022 recruiting class on board as well as the current recruiting class.

Can he be a successful CEO head coach? Could he be like our non Cajun version of ED O and hire quality assistants and let them do their jobs? Coach Prime is another example of this model as well as Dabo from fifteen years ago at Clemson.

The biggest question mark is can he manage an organization like this with no experience? Is he organized enough to handle the day to day operations as head coach? I bet someone within the ADs office knows enough to make a judgement.

Hopefully Coach E is apart of the new staff in some form because he will be coveted everywhere in the nation if he leaves including our SEC rivals.
Why do people seem to be asking that question about him yet don't seem to be worried about that for another top assistant like the guy from Georgia?

E. Rob is extremely intelligent and knows exactly what he's doing. Managing the organization and handling the day to day will not be overwhelming for him.
It's a fair question when promoting a young position coach with no head coaching experience. I don't make any distinction from Coach E to Glenn Schumann as both would be risky for the exact same reason. I'm a big fan of Coach E
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