the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

I don't think Bjork heard you. You might want to try calling him.

We need the 12th Man to be HC. It's time. We're ready.

Lol, we aren't a big picture program?

It's universally accepted that A&M has everything, EVERYTHING, you could possibly need to be a contender and a winner.

That's why you hear the media harping on us underachieving and making excuses for other programs that underwhelm.

LOL. We struck out with a big name splash hire with a natty to his name so we should go out and hire an unproven assistant. I'm sure this is a foolproof plan and there is no chance this will fail.

would a true big name want this sh*t show?

bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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Div 3 and volunteer coaches should lead to more lunch pail moments on the field!!!

bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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If he wins that game the BMA will give him a raise and extension.....

I was at a golf tournament earlier this week and paired up with a tu alumn. Nice guy, talked about living in Texas, A&M and Texas,, and of course football. He was happy his program no longer seems to be wandering in the wilderness, despite the loss to OU, things look a lot better. We of course discussed Jimbo and the ridiculous contract (and extension) and I joked "If he beats the Longhorns next year they'll give him a raise and an extension"...he laughed and said "you're probably right!".

bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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But wasn't Jimbo once an OC at a winning program that so happens to have HC experience and winning a National Title?

There's also winning OC's and DC's that became HC's and didn't do **** all over the place.

GigEmReggie said:

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We need the 12th Man to be HC. It's time. We're ready.

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Phone app that allows fans to call plays and selects the top choice in real time.

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bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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But wasn't Jimbo once an OC at a winning program that so happens to have HC experience and winning a National Title?

There's also winning OC's and DC's that became HC's and didn't do **** all over the place.

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Jimbo's major issue is the very best OC's & DC's personally do not want to work for him. In these last 2 offseasons, they all rejected his offer to come work here. And he is an offensive guy who won't give up control/scheme.

Plus he cannot manage a roster, which is how we suck so bad at multiple position-groups every year. It was kind of obvious at FSU in his later years, but he has the portal & NIL here and he still somehow sucks at managing a roster.

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LOL. We struck out with a big name splash hire with a natty to his name so we should go out and hire an unproven assistant. I'm sure this is a foolproof plan and there is no chance this will fail.

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Well, sumlin had a big name too, and look how that panned out. Dabo was a WR coach when he took over Clemson. Seemed to work out pretty well. Ed Orgeron was a coordinator who couldn't speak English. He won a natty.

How big the name is and how much of a splash they'll make should have 0 bearing on the hire. It should be about cultural fit and whether they have the right personality and vision for the program, just like any executive hire.

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rootube said:

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LOL. We struck out with a big name splash hire with a natty to his name so we should go out and hire an unproven assistant. I'm sure this is a foolproof plan and there is no chance this will fail.

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Well, sumlin had a big name too, and look how that panned out. Dabo was a WR coach when he took over Clemson. Seemed to work out pretty well. Ed Orgeron was a coordinator who couldn't speak English. He won a natty.

How big the name is and how much of a splash they'll make should have 0 bearing on the hire. It should be about cultural fit and whether they have the right personality and vision for the program, just like any executive hire.

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Houston was Sumlin's ONLY head coaching job. At houston, Sumlin went 8-5, 10-4, 5-7, and 12-1.

He was not remotely proven as a head coach. He would've been a splash-hire for another non-power5 school like houston or some poor P5 school. Whoever hired him here at A&M was kind of stupid.

His friend and drinki…um….running partner Regent Jim Wilson…

Somewhat agree. He was unproven, but he was also certainly a big name and a lot of people thought he was the next big college coach. Hiring him was stupid because it was done because he was a splash hire, not because he was a good cultural fit or because he had a solid vision and plan for the program. He wasn't, and he didn't.

Extending him was absolutely idiotic.

Whoever is funding and influencing the hires seems like they treat the program as a hobby instead of a business.

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Somewhat agree. He was unproven, but he was also certainly a big name and a lot of people thought he was the next big college coach. Hiring him was stupid because it was done because he was a splash hire, not because he was a good cultural fit or because he had a solid vision and plan for the program. He wasn't, and he didn't.

Extending him was absolutely idiotic.

Whoever is funding and influencing the hires seems like they treat the program as a hobby instead of a business.

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So…to get this right…the BMAs should turn this into a money maker for themselves??? Hmm…we should have thought of this, sooner!!!

Sherman and Sumlin weren't really big names. I guess Sherman had NFL pedigree but nobody considered that a monster hire.

Fran and Fisher were big names for sure.

DeBoer, Drinkiwitz, Stoops, Liepold, and Elko would be my initial call list to start with. All have a history of doing more with much less although some have done it way longer than others. If Stoops is gonna be considered though he'd need to hire a more modern OC and junk his smash mouth groundcentric offense.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Somewhat agree. He was unproven, but he was also certainly a big name and a lot of people thought he was the next big college coach. Hiring him was stupid because it was done because he was a splash hire, not because he was a good cultural fit or because he had a solid vision and plan for the program. He wasn't, and he didn't.

Extending him was absolutely idiotic.

Whoever is funding and influencing the hires seems like they treat the program as a hobby instead of a business.

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So…to get this right…the BMAs should turn this into a money maker for themselves??? Hmm…we should have thought of this, sooner!!!

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No. They should stop making hires based on how much they can brag about it on the golf course and start making hires based on how well a coach fits culturally, how well they articulate what they see as the program's current issues, how they plan to address those issues, and what their long term strategy for sustained success is, like how a successful business would make a hire.

bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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I concur and if he exceeds expectations by 1 win in his first or second year, we give him a 20 year contract with a guarantee that he makes at least 1 million more than the second highest paid coach in the country. If we pay him, NCs will come.

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

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Sherman and Sumlin weren't really big names. I guess Sherman had NFL pedigree but nobody considered that a monster hire.

Fran and Fisher were big names for sure.

DeBoer, Drinkiwitz, Stoops, Liepold, and Elko would be my initial call list to start with. All have a history of doing more with much less although some have done it way longer than others. If Stoops is gonna be considered though he'd need to hire a more modern OC and junk his smash mouth groundcentric offense.

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I wouldn't touch liepold. He's too unproven. They've been awful when their star qb has been hurt and his improvements haven't led to recruiting wins. Dude needs to jump ship though before he becomes the next Matt Campbell and stays too long.

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

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Sherman and Sumlin weren't really big names. I guess Sherman had NFL pedigree but nobody considered that a monster hire.

Fran and Fisher were big names for sure.

DeBoer, Drinkiwitz, Stoops, Liepold, and Elko would be my initial call list to start with. All have a history of doing more with much less although some have done it way longer than others. If Stoops is gonna be considered though he'd need to hire a more modern OC and junk his smash mouth groundcentric offense.

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I wouldn't touch liepold. He's too unproven. They've been awful when their star qb has been hurt and his improvements haven't led to recruiting wins. Dude needs to jump ship though before he becomes the next Matt Campbell and stays too long.

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Who else is great when their star QB is hurt?

Also, it's Kansas, their not going to win a lot of recruiting battles with K-State, MU and certainly not OU.

Glenn Schumann

Art Briles maybe

https://mikefarrellsports.com/college/midseason-report-ten-coaches-setting-themselves-up-for-a-bigger-job-this-offseason

Common names that many have mentioned as being on their list...issue is all will want large paydays and betting we have to go cheaper to offset past payouts.

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The Lost said:

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

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Sherman and Sumlin weren't really big names. I guess Sherman had NFL pedigree but nobody considered that a monster hire.

Fran and Fisher were big names for sure.

DeBoer, Drinkiwitz, Stoops, Liepold, and Elko would be my initial call list to start with. All have a history of doing more with much less although some have done it way longer than others. If Stoops is gonna be considered though he'd need to hire a more modern OC and junk his smash mouth groundcentric offense.

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I wouldn't touch liepold. He's too unproven. They've been awful when their star qb has been hurt and his improvements haven't led to recruiting wins. Dude needs to jump ship though before he becomes the next Matt Campbell and stays too long.

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Who else is great when their star QB is hurt?

Also, it's Kansas, they're not going to win a lot of recruiting battles with K-State, MU and certainly not OU.

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They don't need to be great, but he would def be in danger of being a coach made by 1 player. Not saying he should be the be crooter in the area, but def should be better than 72 last years class was.

GJ Kinne

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LOL. We struck out with a big name splash hire with a natty to his name so we should go out and hire an unproven assistant. I'm sure this is a foolproof plan and there is no chance this will fail.

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Well, sumlin had a big name too, and look how that panned out. Dabo was a WR coach when he took over Clemson. Seemed to work out pretty well. Ed Orgeron was a coordinator who couldn't speak English. He won a natty.

How big the name is and how much of a splash they'll make should have 0 bearing on the hire. It should be about cultural fit and whether they have the right personality and vision for the program, just like any executive hire.

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Culture fit is horsesh**. Saban was a Midwest guy coaching in the B10 and left to become the best coach in SEC history.

My point is not that you need a splash hire. My point is that nobody has a clue. If they did teams would not routinely churn through several coaches before finding the right guy. The only sure fire coaches at the moment are Saban and Smart. The rest are just a bad season from an exit.

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Lol, we aren't a big picture program?

It's universally accepted that A&M has everything, EVERYTHING, you could possibly need to be a contender and a winner.

That's why you hear the media harping on us underachieving and making excuses for other programs that underwhelm.

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They are harping on us because we gave a jackass a ridiculous 10 year guaranteed contract and then extended him for no reason

It is quite hilarious if you are not a fan of A&M

Yes and if that happens we still come out further ahead than the big name option. How? Because we're not spending $95MM for failure.

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Culture fit is horsesh**. Saban was a Midwest guy coaching in the B10 and left to become the best coach in SEC history.

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Your right, the culture fit and the "he gets us" idea is irrelevant and this proves it.

bulverdeaggie93 said:

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the longest Jimbo will make it would be through the Texas game in '24…. once he's gone, don't chase a big name coach. We tried it with Sumlin and Jimbo, kinda worked but then big picture neither did. We aren't a big picture program at this point… Go do what Oregon did, get an OC or DC from a winning program.

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I hope those are charge are not making a decision based on game (the tu game) , can they be that dumb? dont thinks so.

Find a great high school coach. If not, maybe a player's dad could give it a go.