https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-football-contract-buyouts-what-it-would-cost-to-fire-hot-seat-coaches-217854795/#2266189

Jimbo may be a sheetty coach, but he's one helluva negotiator.

The guaranteed money for his contract is absurd.

But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

Jimbo is our Bobby Bonilla (Mets will be paying him until 2035, when he'll be 72)

aggiegolfer2012 said:

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But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

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Haha. Got some good behind the scenes access for writing that!

Tired of this conversation. We know his buyout is huge.

zephyr88 said:

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Jimbo may be a sheetty coach, but he's one helluva negotiator.

The guaranteed money for his contract is absurd.

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Quote:

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Kevin Sumlin is a good coach. ... He's a good negotiator, too. He's got a good deal.

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-Steve Spurrier



Maybe they're not at all good negotiators.

Maybe we suck at negotiating.

aggiegolfer2012 said:

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But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

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There were about two people that didn't think this was a bargain, and it's well known that I was one. You'd get the message board equivalent of tarred and feathered if you didn't follow the company line about Jimbo. Especially by one dude that seems to have vanished of late, seems he got tired of being wrong for a living.

This is a tough one for he has recruited well overall. His problem is his stubbornness. In red zone play he is bad due to play design and play calling. That alone lost this game. On D he sucks at making in game adjustments. In third quarter we should have continued to blitz the qb.

SinKiller said:

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

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There were about two people that didn't think this was a bargain, and it's well known that I was one. You'd get the message board equivalent of tarred and feathered if you didn't follow the company line about Jimbo. Especially by one dude that seems to have vanished of late, seems he got tired of being wrong for a living.

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There were definitely people that posted concerns about Jimbo during the initial announcement as HC and then during the extension, but they were largely ignored or blasted for not understanding that this is how you win championships in 2023.... and which other HC that has won a Natty could we get?

From my non lawyer viewpoint, Jimbo has carried out the terms of the contract he signed with us. I may not like some of his answers at pressers, but he does answer the questions to what he believes is right and in a professional manner.

The $9.5 a year was always fine
The structure of the buyout was embarrassing, and any media member worth anything should have been screaming it from the mountain tops.
Nobody has that kind of buyout (outside of the idiots at Michigan State, and we see how that's working out), much less a coach that hasn't even won the conference, or even the division.

Just the latest "sound and fury signifying nothing" article about Jimbo's buyout. Enough guys, let it go. No post here will have any impact.

Hey guys remember the guy who wrote that deal is at LSU. Sure he did not renew it but he was the originator.

Rule #1 in contract negotiations, never sign a contract where the other party is better off being fired.

Yep. Everybody continue to be quiet and not start a conversation about how 3 of the last 4 coaches have gotten ridiculously one sided contract extensions without doing so much as winning the conference division.

Lots of ***** envy going on in this thread

Houstonag said:

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This is a tough one for he has recruited well overall. His problem is his stubbornness. In red zone play he is bad due to play design and play calling. That alone lost this game. On D he sucks at making in game adjustments. In third quarter we should have continued to blitz the qb.

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Project much???

But what good would that do. The media had/has no input in the decision making process, no negotiating input, etc. it would not have changed anything, nor has it changed anything. Neither has nor will our constant whining about it.

Hawk2007 said:

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SinKiller said:

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

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There were about two people that didn't think this was a bargain, and it's well known that I was one. You'd get the message board equivalent of tarred and feathered if you didn't follow the company line about Jimbo. Especially by one dude that seems to have vanished of late, seems he got tired of being wrong for a living.

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There were definitely people that posted concerns about Jimbo during the initial announcement as HC and then during the extension, but they were largely ignored or blasted for not understanding that this is how you win championships in 2023.... and which other HC that has won a Natty could we get?

From my non lawyer viewpoint, Jimbo has carried out the terms of the contract he signed with us. I may not like some of his answers at pressers, but he does answer the questions to what he believes is right and in a professional manner.

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Jimbo the person, zero problems with. We're the dumbasses that went and did this, and then paraded him out as our "National Championships" coach. And then, when nobody was after him (I don't care what people say about Woodward), we competed against that no one and extended him. You didn't have to do that, but it's what A&M does 10/10 times. Schloss is a perfect example, year one goes to the WS, start building his statue and back up the Brinks truck, of course we fall back to the pack in year 2. I like Schloss, but there are some concerning parallels. Sharp and his cronies can't see the forest for the trees. Jimbo got more love from losing to Clemson, losing! There's probably only one fan base that would fall for that. Instead of going out and getting a coach, we should go money-whip an NFL GM and let him call the shots. And he should not listen to one Alum, other than for money. We've proved we don't know how to pick coaches around here.

It really took hardly any due-diligence to see that emperor had no clothes with Jimbo. He got extended because of the Orange Bowl, which we were lucky as hell to win. The one real good team we played that year throttled us. We didn't deserve the playoff, and would have got our clocks cleaned if we snuck in somehow. I think you just come out and make a statement that Jimbo is the coach and will be the coach for years to come. And then, just hope we get lucky. The one potential problem you're gonna have in the near future, is a bunch of empty suites. These bandwagon hoppers will leave as soon as the next loss, and then you've got a problem on your hands. But again, we did all of this to ourselves. You took the magic of Kyle Field and turned it in to NRG at College Station. You took one of the fiercest places to play and turned it in to a country club. You literally killed the home field advantage that Kyle was. The people saying Kyle at night is magical, are people that haven't been to a home game in 10 years.

Houstonag said:

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This is a tough one for he has recruited well overall. His problem is his stubbornness. In red zone play he is bad due to play design and play calling. That alone lost this game. On D he sucks at making in game adjustments. In third quarter we should have continued to blitz the qb.

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His main problem is he is 27-1 with Jameis Winston and average without him.

The extension after the Covid season was the problem. That year to me was like a strike shortened NFL season. No one is ever going to put the same value on that season as a normal one. We shouldn't have either.

SinKiller said:

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Hawk2007 said:

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SinKiller said:

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aggiegolfer2012 said:

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But Billy said it's a bargain……
https://texags.com/s/41195/liucci-jimbo-fishers-extension-will-be-another-bargain-for-texas-am

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There were about two people that didn't think this was a bargain, and it's well known that I was one. You'd get the message board equivalent of tarred and feathered if you didn't follow the company line about Jimbo. Especially by one dude that seems to have vanished of late, seems he got tired of being wrong for a living.

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There were definitely people that posted concerns about Jimbo during the initial announcement as HC and then during the extension, but they were largely ignored or blasted for not understanding that this is how you win championships in 2023.... and which other HC that has won a Natty could we get?

From my non lawyer viewpoint, Jimbo has carried out the terms of the contract he signed with us. I may not like some of his answers at pressers, but he does answer the questions to what he believes is right and in a professional manner.

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Jimbo the person, zero problems with. We're the dumbasses that went and did this, and then paraded him out as our "National Championships" coach. And then, when nobody was after him (I don't care what people say about Woodward), we competed against that no one and extended him. You didn't have to do that, but it's what A&M does 10/10 times. Schloss is a perfect example, year one goes to the WS, start building his statue and back up the Brinks truck, of course we fall back to the pack in year 2. I like Schloss, but there are some concerning parallels. Sharp and his cronies can't see the forest for the trees. Jimbo got more love from losing to Clemson, losing! There's probably only one fan base that would fall for that. Instead of going out and getting a coach, we should go money-whip an NFL GM and let him call the shots. And he should not listen to one Alum, other than for money. We've proved we don't know how to pick coaches around here.

It really took hardly any due-diligence to see that emperor had no clothes with Jimbo. He got extended because of the Orange Bowl, which we were lucky as hell to win. The one real good team we played that year throttled us. We didn't deserve the playoff, and would have got our clocks cleaned if we snuck in somehow. I think you just come out and make a statement that Jimbo is the coach and will be the coach for years to come. And then, just hope we get lucky. The one potential problem you're gonna have in the near future, is a bunch of empty suites. These bandwagon hoppers will leave as soon as the next loss, and then you've got a problem on your hands. But again, we did all of this to ourselves. You took the magic of Kyle Field and turned it in to NRG at College Station. You took one of the fiercest places to play and turned it in to a country club. You literally killed the home field advantage that Kyle was. The people saying Kyle at night is magical, are people that haven't been to a home game in 10 years.

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Except your analysis is just arguing with no one. You can't change anything and lack the commitment and money to pay for the change. And you're wrong. Jimbo's 2020 season was 9-1 with Mond and the best outcome since 1939. And we know what happened in 2021 and 2022 and story arc to CW's first healthy season is visible and credible.

Aggie Dad Sip said:

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The extension after the Covid season was the problem. That year to me was like a strike shortened NFL season. No one is ever going to put the same value on that season as a normal one. We shouldn't have either.

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It was the best outcome and one win from a cfp invite. You literally are just downplaying it to preen to the other virtue signaling internet tough guys.

Houstonag said:

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This is a tough one for he has recruited well overall. His problem is his stubbornness. In red zone play he is bad due to play design and play calling. That alone lost this game. On D he sucks at making in game adjustments. In third quarter we should have continued to blitz the qb.

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He's recruited terrible at DB and OL…you can't win by ignoring certain positions and being unable to manage your roster in age of portal (in & out) after you fail to recruit the HS ranks properly.

Same thing happened at Florida state. Neglected the OL and kept a ****ty OL coach on staff.

Houstonag said:

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This is a tough one for he has recruited well overall. His problem is his stubbornness. In red zone play he is bad due to play design and play calling. That alone lost this game. On D he sucks at making in game adjustments. In third quarter we should have continued to blitz the qb.

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He has recruited well because of NIL and certainly not his personality .
He will be out of here at the end of next year and hopefully we can get someone like Elko .

cevans_40 said:

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Lots of ***** envy going on in this thread

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Becoming one of my favorite posters
Never anything to actually say about the Jimbo contract besides "y'all are so poor, why do y'all care about the money"

Do you think it's okay that a handful of people get to decide to mortgage the entire program to a ridiculous contract, then point to the exact same contract as a reason we can't make a change? Or are you just related to Jimbo somehow?