Brett Yormark. ACC was set to meet to offer PAC schools a lifeline when Yormark offered full revenue share to AZ, ASU and Utah immediately upon becoming members. That ended ACC western expansion. He plays 3D chess to their checkers.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/brett-yormark-reportedly-beat-out-the-acc-to-land-more-pac-12-schools/ar-AA1ePUIE?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=ec38d13ed4dc4a27b34dcb19b2a25960&ei=46

Most of us tend to think of conference alignment in predominantly football or basketball terms. But there are a lot of other lower profile sports involved. The Big10 will be flying its volleyball teams (for example) essentially coast to coast as well as its football teams, and that's going to get old (and expensive) real quick.

If we want to maintain the mirage (lol) of college sports, I really do hope we stick to a regional model, even if that doesn't mean more "eyeballs" on fall football.

BIG wins w exclusive TV contracts w CBS, NBC and Fox for $7B. Why they'll grow and fill content across many platforms and streaming services.

Espn and Disney having money issues and will not keep up in current state of affairs. There's no larger pots down the line with them. Ironically, espn will even want to occasionally show BIG games and will push for cross conference games, but as implied, BIG will not have too until playoff circus times.

The collateral damage of conference realignment: The fans. 😢 (via @RedditCFB) pic.twitter.com/uu2KNWno8b

— Jim Weber (@JimMWeber) August 3, 2023

David Happymountain said:

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I win.

I have pivoted my discretionary income to something with more intrinsic value than fart-ass college football.

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I headed this direction about 10 years ago, doubled down on it 4 years ago, then turned off my TV service a year ago. I think my last in person game was the Kenny Trill coming out party in Columbia , SC.

I'll keep up with A&M football on TexAgs and the rest of them country in my daily email from The Athletic. Using my Saturday to hang out with friends, deer hunt, or chase birds with my dogs is far more rewarding on every level.

This has increased 100x with free agency.

I love the chaos of realignment from a news cycle standpoint, but none of it affects my real life, so whatever. I do feel terrible for the tennis players, etc that have to travel 2200 miles to play a match on a Tuesday. 95% of those kids have no pro options so they really are in college to get a degree. And we're making that infinitely harder.

I would say from where they were left when SWC collapsed to where they are presently: Houston and TCU

With an expanded teal playoff, conferences will soon be irrelevant. Win your annual slate of games, be ranked in the top 10-15, and you got a shot for a championship.

ntxVol said:

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The collateral damage of conference realignment: The fans. 😢 (via @RedditCFB) pic.twitter.com/uu2KNWno8b

— Jim Weber (@JimMWeber) August 3, 2023

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This would be less sad if it weren't for the fact that conferences do NOT give a **** about the fans.

TXAG 05 said:

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College football was a lot more fun when all that mattered was beating your rival, winning your conference, and making a bowl game.

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Lol, we failed at that almost every year

College football as a whole will still be awesome. Big picture this sort of conference realignment is not unprecedented. This is just the largest scale we've seen in quite a long time.

I will still love and watch the sport, just like pretty much all of you will.

Sean98 said:

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David Happymountain said:

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I win.

I have pivoted my discretionary income to something with more intrinsic value than fart-ass college football.

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I headed this direction about 10 years ago, doubled down on it 4 years ago, then turned off my TV service a year ago. I think my last in person game was the Kenny Trill coming out party in Columbia , SC.

I'll keep up with A&M football on TexAgs and the rest of them country in my daily email from The Athletic. Using my Saturday to hang out with friends, deer hunt, or chase birds with my dogs is far more rewarding on every level.

This has increased 100x with free agency.

I love the chaos of realignment from a news cycle standpoint, but none of it affects my real life, so whatever. I do feel terrible for the tennis players, etc that have to travel 2200 miles to play a match on a Tuesday. 95% of those kids have no pro options so they really are in college to get a degree. And we're making that infinitely harder.

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Its this. Don't know for sure when the change occurred, but it was over a decade ago.

But as a grown ass functioning adult, having this approach is the only reasonable thing to do.

Sure, i'll throw it on TV if I'm home while I'm doing other stuff, but in no way shape or form am I letting it dictate how I spend my weekends.

ntxVol said:

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The collateral damage of conference realignment: The fans. 😢 (via @RedditCFB) pic.twitter.com/uu2KNWno8b

— Jim Weber (@JimMWeber) August 3, 2023

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This is so spot on. It is a very sad day for me indeed. And for those of you saying to get a grip and that realignment has been happening for decades, it is very different over the past 10 or 15 years. RIP.

Cynic said:

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TXAG 05 said:

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College football was a lot more fun when all that mattered was beating your rival, winning your conference, and making a bowl game.

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Lol, we failed at that almost every year

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Absolutely not true.

I know I'm in the minority here but I guess the "modern" college football game has passed me by…I enjoyed it more in old Kyle and in the SWC days…Probably just reminiscing on my part…

LatinAggie1997 said:

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Mort Rainey said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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CFB is no longer what my generation remembers. It has become big business for schools, athletic departments, athletes, and networks.
I see CFB being two major conferences, the SEC and the BIG, having absorbed the remaining contenders of the ACC and having ousted the NCAA.
It will look very similar to the AFC vs the NFC model of the NFL.
Realignment isn't only changing conference members but the entire model.

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With all due respect, college football has been big business for schools, ADs, players and tv networks for four decades, whether you were aware of it or not

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There is a big difference in the type of big business,
and the model, between fifteen years ago and today. It is unrecognizable.

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yep. this is getting out hand.

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Why Florida State is working with JPMorgan Chase, per report

The reason Florida State has not left the ACC, as it becomes clear there isn't going to be a change in revenue structure coming, is a large exit fee (that equates to three times the revenue earned the year prior to departure) and a grant of media rights that runs through 2036.

At a Board of Trustees Meeting on Wednesday, FSU president Richard McCullough called the school's situation "an existential crisis."

On Friday, Sportico reported that FSU is looking into a unique way to raise funds:

"Florida State University is working with JPMorgan Chase to explore how the school's athletic department could raise capital from institutional funds, such as private equity, according to multiple people familiar with the plans.


"PE giant Sixth Street is in advanced talks to lead a possible investment, said the people, who were granted anonymity because the specifics are private. Institutional money has poured into professional sports in recent years, from the NBA and global soccer to F1 and golf, but this would break new ground by entering the multibillion-dollar world of college athletic departments.

"The school is considering a structure similar to many of those pro sports investments, where commercial rights are rolled into a new company, the private equity fund invests in that entity, and then recoups its money via future media/sponsorship revenue. That's how Silver Lake structured its investment into the New Zealand All Blacks rugby team, and how CVC organized its $2.2 billion Spanish soccer deal with LaLiga."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2023/08/04/florida-state-jp-morgan-chase-report/70533729007/

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Lawyers. They win on *everything*.

Two thoughts. I don't who the lawyers who wrote the ACC Grant of Rights deal, but if I need to draft an ironclad business agreement, that's who i want to write the agreement. I appears that FSU would have left the ACC years ago if not for the GOR.

i would be surprised to see a private equity frim invest in college sports. From the outside looking in, all I see is every time a college program takes in more money, they find a way to spend every nickel plus some. It would be hard to make a donation if you knew J P Morgan Chase was going to get a substantial cut. Maybe a hedge fund person would be a better play caller than Jimbo.

Zergling Rush said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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Mort Rainey said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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CFB is no longer what my generation remembers. It has become big business for schools, athletic departments, athletes, and networks.
I see CFB being two major conferences, the SEC and the BIG, having absorbed the remaining contenders of the ACC and having ousted the NCAA.
It will look very similar to the AFC vs the NFC model of the NFL.
Realignment isn't only changing conference members but the entire model.

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With all due respect, college football has been big business for schools, ADs, players and tv networks for four decades, whether you were aware of it or not

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There is a big difference in the type of big business,
and the model, between fifteen years ago and today. It is unrecognizable.

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yep. this is getting out hand.

Quote:

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Why Florida State is working with JPMorgan Chase, per report

The reason Florida State has not left the ACC, as it becomes clear there isn't going to be a change in revenue structure coming, is a large exit fee (that equates to three times the revenue earned the year prior to departure) and a grant of media rights that runs through 2036.

At a Board of Trustees Meeting on Wednesday, FSU president Richard McCullough called the school's situation "an existential crisis."

On Friday, Sportico reported that FSU is looking into a unique way to raise funds:

"Florida State University is working with JPMorgan Chase to explore how the school's athletic department could raise capital from institutional funds, such as private equity, according to multiple people familiar with the plans.


"PE giant Sixth Street is in advanced talks to lead a possible investment, said the people, who were granted anonymity because the specifics are private. Institutional money has poured into professional sports in recent years, from the NBA and global soccer to F1 and golf, but this would break new ground by entering the multibillion-dollar world of college athletic departments.

"The school is considering a structure similar to many of those pro sports investments, where commercial rights are rolled into a new company, the private equity fund invests in that entity, and then recoups its money via future media/sponsorship revenue. That's how Silver Lake structured its investment into the New Zealand All Blacks rugby team, and how CVC organized its $2.2 billion Spanish soccer deal with LaLiga."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2023/08/04/florida-state-jp-morgan-chase-report/70533729007/

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Consolidation happens in every business and once blood is in the water, no "business" (college) will want to be left out. FSU sees that in 5 or 6 years there will be no way to truly get back into contention. The Big 12 is done for as far as competing for national championships. It will be a fun conference to watch for those who still love college football the way it used to be. The ACC has quite a few schools that will fall into that category too. The Big 12 will probably end up at 24-30 schools as the 3rd best conference, miles behind the other 2.

The BOT isn't wrong when they say it's a sort of existential crisis for FSU football if they want to stay nationally relevant. Whether staying nationally relevant is what SHOULD be most important is another debate, but right now they think it's important and staying in the ACC until 2036 will cripple them. Clemson too.

Another winner is pot bangers. When the athletes are professionals they are open to critique.

On the losing side are sunshine pumpers

45-70Ag said:

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So far, yormark and the big 12. That guy is the best commissioner in college athletics and the sec would be smart to go after him whenever sankeys contract is up.

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Didn't they just re-up Sankey for a few more years?

It's always been a big business. People lamenting that now have had their heads in the sands for decades.

AWP 97 said:

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45-70Ag said:

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So far, yormark and the big 12. That guy is the best commissioner in college athletics and the sec would be smart to go after him whenever sankeys contract is up.

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Didn't they just re-up Sankey for a few more years?

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Doesn't matter. Regardless of A&M's opinion on him, we are only one vote, and he is completely safe.

geoag58 said:

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Another winner is pot bangers. When the athletes are professionals they are open to critique.

On the losing side are sunshine pumpers

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That's pretty much how it goes for the "amateur" athletes we have had in the recent past.

BrotherChad2 said:

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Which conference ultimately wins out? Which teams? Does the BDF make a come back? Does the ACC ultimately meet the same fate as the PAC 12?

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Less trolly…but edgy in this audience.

True but it's come a long way from Trans Am's. Much more $. I dunno if that's good or bad. On one hand I like that players can make some money. On the other hand it's so mercenary

West Point Aggie said:

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Remember the SWC, B8, Pac10, original SEC, original B10, original ACC…college sports was fun then…whatever this is turning into is a hot mess…14 teams per conference was already a bit much…

Oh well…it is all moot…

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It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to...

ahhh, the good ol' days when the nation was SHOCKED by Texas A&M opening up the money vault to steal Jackie Sherril for the obscene price of $250,000.00.

What is that now, the NIL of a backup guard?

The Banned said:

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Zergling Rush said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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Mort Rainey said:

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LatinAggie1997 said:

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CFB is no longer what my generation remembers. It has become big business for schools, athletic departments, athletes, and networks.
I see CFB being two major conferences, the SEC and the BIG, having absorbed the remaining contenders of the ACC and having ousted the NCAA.
It will look very similar to the AFC vs the NFC model of the NFL.
Realignment isn't only changing conference members but the entire model.

---

With all due respect, college football has been big business for schools, ADs, players and tv networks for four decades, whether you were aware of it or not

---

There is a big difference in the type of big business,
and the model, between fifteen years ago and today. It is unrecognizable.

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yep. this is getting out hand.

Quote:

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Why Florida State is working with JPMorgan Chase, per report

The reason Florida State has not left the ACC, as it becomes clear there isn't going to be a change in revenue structure coming, is a large exit fee (that equates to three times the revenue earned the year prior to departure) and a grant of media rights that runs through 2036.

At a Board of Trustees Meeting on Wednesday, FSU president Richard McCullough called the school's situation "an existential crisis."

On Friday, Sportico reported that FSU is looking into a unique way to raise funds:

"Florida State University is working with JPMorgan Chase to explore how the school's athletic department could raise capital from institutional funds, such as private equity, according to multiple people familiar with the plans.


"PE giant Sixth Street is in advanced talks to lead a possible investment, said the people, who were granted anonymity because the specifics are private. Institutional money has poured into professional sports in recent years, from the NBA and global soccer to F1 and golf, but this would break new ground by entering the multibillion-dollar world of college athletic departments.

"The school is considering a structure similar to many of those pro sports investments, where commercial rights are rolled into a new company, the private equity fund invests in that entity, and then recoups its money via future media/sponsorship revenue. That's how Silver Lake structured its investment into the New Zealand All Blacks rugby team, and how CVC organized its $2.2 billion Spanish soccer deal with LaLiga."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2023/08/04/florida-state-jp-morgan-chase-report/70533729007/

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Consolidation happens in every business and once blood is in the water, no "business" (college) will want to be left out. FSU sees that in 5 or 6 years there will be no way to truly get back into contention. The Big 12 is done for as far as competing for national championships. It will be a fun conference to watch for those who still love college football the way it used to be. The ACC has quite a few schools that will fall into that category too. The Big 12 will probably end up at 24-30 schools as the 3rd best conference, miles behind the other 2.

The BOT isn't wrong when they say it's a sort of existential crisis for FSU football if they want to stay nationally relevant. Whether staying nationally relevant is what SHOULD be most important is another debate, but right now they think it's important and staying in the ACC until 2036 will cripple them. Clemson too.

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which is why I don't see the ACC staying together through the entire GOR term and why I don't think the big10 and SEC are done expanding.

I predict both conferences will have at least "announced" new members within the next 5 years, and probably sooner.

the new playoff starts in 204 and is for 2 years? I think more realgnment takes place to align with the next playoff deal starting after the first 12 team deal is up