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hunter2012
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ESPN's deal with the SEC, which kicks in next year, is estimated to be for about $811 million per year for 10 years. It was signed prior to Oklahoma and Texas joining the conference but is believed to contain a pro rata clause that, in the event of expansion, increases the payment by an amount equal to what each school was set to get: $58 million per year per school would mean the new value of the contract would be about $927 million.

But this is where it gets thorny and where scheduling comes in.

The SEC has made the case to ESPN that this is not just two schools; this is Oklahoma and Texas. The SEC also can argue that by going to a nine-game schedule, it will provide more marquee games. For instance, Texas-Texas A&M every year, rather than twice every four years. Ditto for Alabama-Tennessee, Auburn-Georgia and other games that would be one of three annual games, rather than one in an eight-game format.

I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide for the parasites and scorpions was so that overall value increases? Well apparently Snakey either can't read contracts or likely doesn't care because he gunning for the NFL JV commissioner. Just how bad did he tell us to F off and fall in line? It's very evident that we rolled over, and for no benefit whatsoever.
Franklin Comes Alive!
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Sankey got paid

That's all that matters
aTm2004
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If there's no money in it, don't let them in. Simple.
greg.w.h
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Sankey is bad. Fire him.
rootube
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Impressive misleading click bait thread title. You have a promising career in new media.
Texagsubscriber
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NATTY OR BUST. BUST IT IS.

GIVE ME NATTY, OR GIVE ME BAS!!!
Emilio Fantastico
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Anybody with more than a pea-sized brain knew that the increase in payout numbers being bandied about for the addition of sip and BlowU were a load of crap.

This should surprise no one. Especially when you know Snakey is involved.
greg.w.h
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rootube said:

Impressive misleading click bait thread title. You have a promising career in new media.
Which part was misleading? Pro rata means the rate per school stays the same…filtering more through the SEC doesn't benefit Texas A&M more but does help Sankey make more money.
nu awlins ag
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greg.w.h said:

rootube said:

Impressive misleading click bait thread title. You have a promising career in new media.
Which part was misleading? Pro rata means the rate per school stays the same…filtering more through the SEC doesn't benefit Texas A&M more but does help Sankey make more money.


I actually agree with you on this point!
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hunter2012 said:


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide ... was so that overall value increases?

The overall value did increase. $927M > $811M
"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it."

- John Stuart Mill, 1869
rugger74
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33 said:

hunter2012 said:


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide ... was so that overall value increases?

The overall value did increase. $927M > $811M
Split between 16 schools. Our payout is the same 58 million.
nu awlins ag
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33 said:

hunter2012 said:


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide ... was so that overall value increases?

The overall value did increase. $927M > $811M


Uh dude……the split between the schools didn't. Thank you tu and blowu.
WC94
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Let's hurry up and get FSU, Clemson, Louisville, Georgia Tech, OK St signed up. We can all make 58 million!!
Win At Life
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When A&M joined the SEC, the TV revenue PER SCHOOL doubled from $20MM to $40MM.

https://www.al.com/sports/2017/07/the_5-year_impact_of_texas_am.html

This tu OU deal sucks; drains our recruiting and adds $0 to our revenue.
Sq 17
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It wasn't about more money per school it was about keeping of the 2 best available programs out of the new B1G
Shoefly!
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Win At Life said:

When A&M joined the SEC, the TV revenue PER SCHOOL doubled from $20MM to $40MM.

https://www.al.com/sports/2017/07/the_5-year_impact_of_texas_am.html

This tu OU deal sucks; drains our recruiting and adds $0 to our revenue.


The only turds that got a raise out of this bullsheet was blow and ***ots! Bad Bull!
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Sq 17 said:

It wasn't about more money per school it was about keeping of the 2 best available programs out of the new B1G

What was so important about that? We, and the SEC, would have been better off if they had.
AustinAg2K
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So much for Texas being the most valuable college program. ESPN just showed everyone they are no more valuable than Vanderbilt.
ABATTBQ11
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Stupid *** Sankey. What a ****ing moron. Slive would have had that already figured out and a deal ready to be signed.
NyAggie
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Sterling82 said:

Sq 17 said:

It wasn't about more money per school it was about keeping of the 2 best available programs out of the new B1G

What was so important about that? We, and the SEC, would have been better off if they had.


Yep

We added them but don't get more money so who cares there was no point in adding them
greg.w.h
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ABATTBQ11 said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Stupid *** Sankey. What a ****ing moron. Slive would have had that already figured out and a deal ready to be signed.
False. Slive got shtooped by CBS.
greg.w.h
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In fact: Slive getting shtooped by CBS causes us to have a single media partner that then shtooped us adding Texas and OU. They were both partners in bending over.
Ag Tag
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Shtooped? That's a foreign word, right?
greg.w.h
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Ag Tag said:

Shtooped? That's a foreign word, right?
Not exactly…
TexAggie1999
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This thread is stupid. The contract, which was signed before OU and Texas signed onto the SEC, is believed to include that adding schools increases total payout by the amount each school makes so the total per school is the same. The article says the SEC is trying to get more because it is Texas and OU.

We do NOT yet know what them joining will do to the payout. Why are we complaining before we even know what will happen?
texag84
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Simple - keep ou and tu out until ESPN agrees to raise the per school amount. If they don't, that's fine. We just continue as is.
ClearlyJustSomeAg
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TexAggie1999 said:

This thread is stupid. The contract, which was signed before OU and Texas signed onto the SEC, is believed to include that adding schools increases total payout by the amount each school makes so the total per school is the same. The article says the SEC is trying to get more because it is Texas and OU.

We do NOT yet know what them joining will do to the payout. Why are we complaining before we even know what will happen?
But have you considered that I want to be angry and this validates my fee fees?
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nu awlins ag said:

33 said:

hunter2012 said:


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide ... was so that overall value increases?

The overall value did increase. $927M > $811M


Uh dude……the split between the schools didn't. Thank you tu and blowu.
The OP said that expectations were that overall value increases. The overall TV value of the SEC went up by $116M. That's a 14% increase.

"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it."

- John Stuart Mill, 1869
halfastros81
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I would have been happy to see them go to the B1G. The only reason to let them in imo would be for financial benefit which apparently didn't happen…. Or at least not yet.
halfastros81
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And benefitted only 2 parties. The other 14 remained whole but got nothing incrementally … so far anyway
BMX Bandit
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there is no new information in the article.

it has been known that by adding marquee teams, the overall payout would increase under the current contract. texas and ou are being added because in the future they will help increase the payout to each school.

you can really tell many here don't follow whats going on at all, just love to whine about Sankey.
Ag in ATL
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33 said:

nu awlins ag said:

33 said:

hunter2012 said:


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide ... was so that overall value increases?

The overall value did increase. $927M > $811M


Uh dude……the split between the schools didn't. Thank you tu and blowu.
The OP said that expectations were that overall value increases. The overall TV value of the SEC went up by $116M. That's a 14% increase.


I thought the whole reason for throwing the door wide for the parasites and scorpions was so that overall value increases? Well apparently Snakey either can't read contracts or likely doesn't care because he gunning for the NFL JV commissioner. Just how bad did he tell us to F off and fall in line? It's very evident that we rolled over, and for no benefit whatsoever.

You're taking it out of context. It's obvious OP meant that the individual payout per existing SEC school would increase. It won't without the contract being renegotiated, according to the source (not the OP)
greg.w.h
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texag84 said:

Simple - keep ou and tu out until ESPN agrees to raise the per school amount. If they don't, that's fine. We just continue as is.
The article suggests that we are getting the CBS treatment from ESPN. Reading in a different outcome is more of a stretch from the content than the OP's positioning (even if a bit trolly.)
htxag09
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Article and this situation aside, do we really anticipate tv contracts to continue getting higher?

With all the news of these companies losing crazy money it seems to me this gravy train is on the way out…..
greg.w.h
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htxag09 said:

Article and this situation aside, do we really anticipate tv contracts to continue getting higher?

With all the news of these companies losing crazy money it seems to me this gravy train is on the way out…..
There is still meaningful competition between B1G and SEC. We don't know where it ends but it is actively leaving other conferences behind and feels directional to me (there is some goal being chased by both the broadcasters and the conferences.

The 12-team playoff is very stabilizing and likely will create more parity if the conference mix is broad (six minimum different conference champions as currently proposed.)

If the six at large teams are all Big Ten and SEC then a new push for consolidation could occur but it's a minimum of 10 years out. Sankey worked hard on the 12-team playoff and I think he believes it is good for all of what we now think of as FBS football. 16 is the natural limit on teams since more than that takes more than four weeks to resolve. And I don't think anyone can argue 16 v 12 would be more entertaining (unless you think early December bowl games are better than early January bowl games.)

The Big Ten has the better strategy due to inviting multiple networks / streamers to participate. But the SEC / ESPN collaboration is extremely well integrated and includes efforts by both to improve revenue the right way; drawing in more fanatic viewers. Will it outrun cord cutting? If not then ESPN+ will become a reasonable (and likely expensive compared to cable bundling) positioning. But less revenue in the near term.

But Disney has considered spinning off or selling ESPN. But for now they need their cash cow. Seems Disney+ isn't getting the job done…
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