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Petrino is a superior pick as OC to the 20 and 30 somethings and here's why

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James Earl Rudder
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3 or 4 of the names being floated for OC had less than 10yrs coaching experience. Any or all of them might have been a good fit for A&M but maybe not.

Petrino has 30+ years of experience coaching and calling plays for teams. Petrino most likely negotiated full control of the offense. He'll obviously run his offense by J F but once design is set, I think Petrino will make personnel, playbook decisions. He will also probably have the ability to suggest coaching changes / upgrades to the existing staff. His experience alone allows him to match personnel to an offense that should be effective. J Fisher is still head coach and the buck stops with him. Jimbo should just do his job as head coach.

While the young OC's are building a superb pedigree, they lack the ability to go toe to toe with Jimbo. They also lack the experience working with the landscape of offenses Petrino has seen. If Jimbo hired a young guy and things were rocky for the first 5 games, Jimbo might want to step in or take over. Petrino will probably quit if he thinks Jimbo isn't sticking to whatever control J F agreed to when he hired him.

Fans need to stop trying to marry morals and coaching. The hire was based on Petrino's coaching acumen only. It's up to Jimbo to make sure the ethics, morals, etc are lived up to. If Petrino fails on that front, he'll be dismissed.

I think Petrino's lack of good judgement in years past was worthy of getting fired. He got fired.

I think Petrino's experience and reputation as an offensive coordinator will pay dividends for our team.
I also believe his social behavior will be constantly judged by A&M brass and the media. I expect the brass to do their jobs and flush him if he or any of the other coaches act in any way that is detrimental to the University.

For the record, if I were asked to describe his past behavior, disgusting comes to mind. Hoping he'll do his job and hoping his past transgressions are all in the past.

JohnLA762
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OP be like:

infinity ag
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James Earl Rudder, you should know that Texaggers cannot read beyond 10 words. Maybe 11.
Bill Superman
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While on point, this is too many words for the zoo and the doomers.

You'll need to give them a TLDR in crayon.
King
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OPs post
romanagg11
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He may win but is NO CLASS ACT. Dude is opposite of what an Aggie stands for. Hope he keeps his nose clean while in CS
rocky the dog
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Quote:

While the young OC's are building a superb pedigree, they lack the ability to go toe to toe with Jimbo. If Jimbo hired a young guy and things were rocky for the first 5 games, Jimbo might want to step in or take over.
Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
SilverTongueDevil
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I'm sure this was Fran's thought process when he hired G Darnell b
Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Vince Lombardi
ironmanag
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He hasn't coordinated an offense in decades.

His offenses as a head coach have been hit or miss his entire career.

His only FBS offer was UNLV and no one else.

He is very close to being able to collect social security.

Nothing about this hire is high end. It's a shot in the dark.
Aggie Class of '97 and '16, Proud father of Aggie classes of '25 and '29
KCup17
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Jimbo has an ego. He needed to hire someone who has experience and would stand up to him. Petrino is that guy.
robprall
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I think I feel like he was always Fisher's 1st pick, but maybe the baggage was being debated by those in the program and a push to consider other options. Quite frankly after this season, player discourse and Saban's NIL rant on A&M, Fisher went all in.
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big red dog
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King said:

OPs post

OP, good write up. But this right here is pure gold!!
rootube
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He has a ton of experience, unfortunately most of it is for failing spectacularly.
fulshearAg96
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romanagg11 said:

He may win but is NO CLASS ACT. Dude is opposite of what an Aggie stands for. Hope he keeps his nose clean while in CS


Is your name Karen??
GoAgs92
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Judging by his personality traits the last couple of decades, he will most likely have the ability to run the offense independently of J Fisher.

The OP lost me right there….no way will he be independent.
Dr RC
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His experience was so great the best job he could get was OC at UNLV.
TAM85
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Barry Odem hired him at UNLV. You are wrong that UNLV is the best job he could get. Texas A&M has been the best job he could get.
Cheeks
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"Hey, Joe Kines will be better than many think"

"Don't forget the amount experience Gary Darnell brings to this team"

"Noel Mazzone has been lighting it up for years with lesser talent"
redleg82
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No matter how many tarnished football coaches we hire, we will never catch up to Auburn.
AGDAD14
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Offensive coordinators in our backyard:
Grimes
Flood
Petrino
Riley
Kittley

Regardless of which school they coach at, who do you want coaching & developing your son or grandson who plays on the offense side of the ball? And why?



spherical
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None of this explains why 20/30 somethings consider Petriono a superior OC choice.
AWP 97
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What is the saying? I can't remember it exactly. It is something to the effect of "letting the facts prove your narrative or choosing the narrative you want and finding the facts to support it". Petrino's hiring as OC should be a case study for that saying …whatever it is. Lol
74AnimalA
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KCup17 said:

Jimbo has an ego. He needed to hire someone who has experience and would stand up to him. Petrino is that guy.
Or ass Matt Stinchomb put it..... Jimbo has the RESPECT for what Petrino's Offenses do.
Tibbers
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I like that he's coached multiple different type of quarterbacks and maximized each of their strengths. Weigman should be in good hands. We will put up points now. I don't think Weigman will have a tough time picking up this new offense.
AggieArchitect04
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Jesus Christ dude.

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RedlegAg21
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romanagg11 said:

He may win but is NO CLASS ACT. Dude is opposite of what an Aggie stands for. Hope he keeps his nose clean while in CS

This guy probably HATED JFF too…
wbt5845
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romanagg11 said:

He may win but is NO CLASS ACT.
DSAG
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James Earl Rudder said:

I think I'm in the minority here but here goes:
3 or 4 of the names being floated for OC are getting very good results at a very early age and with limited experience. Any or all of them might be a good fit for A&M but then again they might not.

Petrino has 30+ years of experience coaching and calling plays for teams. Judging by his personality traits the last couple of decades, he will most likely have the ability to run the offense independently of J Fisher. He will also probably have the ability to suggest coaching changes / upgrades to the existing staff. His experience alone allows him to match personnel to an offense that will be effective. He will not be limited to a spread attack, an option based offense, a Veer offense, or any other offense du jour. He's seen them all (remember this as it will be mentioned again). Fans will soon see A&M get attention from recruits and transfers who know why his offense will be a great place to play. Some of the names were never on A&M's radar until this announcement. Finally, Petrino's capacity as an assistant limits any questionable judgement. J Fisher is still head coach and the buck stops with him. Jimbo should just do his job as head coach.

While the young OC's are building a superb pedigree, they lack the ability to go toe to toe with Jimbo. If Jimbo hired a young guy and things were rocky for the first 5 games, Jimbo might want to step in or take over. That won't happen with Petrino. We'll live or die with his offense; not Jimbo's. The young guys don't have the experience with other types of offenses / variations that might work with A&M personnel. I think they would bring their offense to the table and talent would work or get flushed. It might take several years to see improvement.

Fans need to stop trying to marry morals and coaching. The hire was based on Petrino's coaching acumen only. It's up to Jimbo to make sure the ethics, morals, etc are lived up to. If Petrino fails on that front, he'll be dismissed like some of last year's 5 star players. Those recruits probably have all the physical ability to be impact players. The one thing they didn't have was good judgement after a 1st and sometimes 2nd strike. They rightfully lost their ability to stay on the A&M team. Some might change their behavior and turn in all American players. I won't and shouldn't be at A&M in my opinion.

I think Petrino's lack of good judgement in years past was worthy of getting fired. He got fired. I also think there are strict guidelines he must abide by if he wants to stay employed. He'll be given some of the finest recruits available to showcase his skills as an OC. Jimbo and AD must do their job as watchdog to make sure things outside the white lines don't cause issues for A&M.

I think his experience and reputation as an offensive coordinator will pay dividends for our team.
I also believe his social behavior will be constantly judged by A&M brass and the media. I expect the brass to do their jobs and flush him if he or any of the other coaches act in any way that is detrimental to the University.

For the record, I could not use any nice superlatives if I were asked to describe his past behavior. Disgusting comes to mind. Hoping he'll do his job and hoping his past transgressions are all in the past.

I stopped reading when you said,

"he will most likely have the ability to run the offense independently of J Fisher. "
Do you honestly believe that ?


Ugly
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infinity ag said:

James Earl Rudder, you should know that Texaggers cannot read beyond 10 words. Maybe 11.


Incorrect. We just choose to be redass and stop at twelve words.
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romanagg11 said:

He may win but is NO CLASS ACT. Dude is opposite of what an Aggie stands for. Hope he keeps his nose clean while in CS

Being an Aggie hasn't meant that in a long time. Wake up - we're just like everyone else. That ship has sailed. Might as well try to win too.
Gramercy Riffs
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AGDAD14 said:

Offensive coordinators in our backyard:
Grimes
Flood
Petrino
Riley
Kittley

Regardless of which school they coach at, who do you want coaching & developing your son or grandson who plays on the offense side of the ball? And why?

Petrino, hands down. The other guys don't coach at A&M, and it would be tough to develop players while being escorted off campus shortly before practice starts.
James Earl Rudder
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OP, you're too old to be posting. TLDNR
AgBandsman
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James Earl Rudder said:

OP, you're too old to be posting. TLDNR
OP has the highest starred comment on the entire thread. Maybe your attention span is too short to read a quality post.
James Earl Rudder
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was a joke. Look again.
Nino Brown
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infinity ag said:

James Earl Rudder, you should know that Texaggers cannot read beyond 10 words. Maybe 11.



I read 9, 9.

When there's that many words you know damn well we just go straight to reading the responses.
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