It does get hard to force a kid to go to class while making MILLIONS at college football.

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The NIL and seasonal free agency.

I don't think we yet realize how disastrous this combination is for NCAA sports. They've created an semi-pro league. How long before the veneer of 'student athlete' drops the 'student' part. After all, is it 'fair' and 'equitable' to force football players to pass academic classes?

What's this going to look like in 10 years?

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Not as we know it, no. College football on the field will always be special. But off the field, the game has changed and the pendulum has swung very far. But when you are watching football on Saturdays, are you thinking about the transfer portal? No. You're just watching the game and pouring your heart out for your team, just like it's always been. College football as a whole has changed, but the game day experience remains unchanged.

Who will be the first Jr 3 year starter playing for his 3rd team? It's only a matter of time. They're always that guy.

Passion is going to get sucked out of college football.

Good knowing you college football.

The days of a team playing hard for the their university are numbered.

I think college football will change a lot in the next couple of years because it has to. It's become a product whose brand is now way better than what it delivers. Sort of like New Coke back in the day, it said Coke but it wasn't worth a damn. Still, for a little while people would buy it because it was Coke.

That's where college football is now.

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SinKiller said:

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I've watched less college football every year, starting when Mond and his boys pulled their stunt. I have no desire for A&M to win a "NC" by being the highest bidder. I think it's probably blown out of proportion a bit, but it's just unseemly. The "craft" and "talents' crowd is nauseating.

It's just not exciting to me. The Florida player last week is a perfect example, no question someone was in his ear telling him to "protect" himself.

I know there's an age cutoff, where a lot see nothing wrong with outwardly paying for players, but I just see it as a huge disappointment. At the current rate, I doubt I'll even be watching in 5 years. That is crazy because my life has revolved around college football. Hell, I got married on a Friday so as to be in Kyle on Saturday....for a Middle Tennesse State game in November of '95!

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oh that stunt triggered you, lil guy? Lmao. Weak humans like you are too hilarious.

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Nah, pud. It was a lot more than that, but that was big enough. If it was just a "stunt" to you, that tells me you're probably about 25. There's not a whole lot of ol' Ags that would deem that a stunt. I'm sure you hate the corps, want cheerleaders, and think standing up is stupid among other things.

Try staying on topic, if you have nothing meaningful to add, just get back to the kiddie table.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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It's already ruined.

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crazy. we could benefit from what's happening but this staff refused to grasp to any shred of redemption after this disgusting season.

Or transferring negates entering the draft until you have played 2 years at 1 school or something like that.

Then again, this was happening before NIL. Anybody remember out lights out WR, Ferguson that came to a&M three months and was off to the draft? Never went to a single class.

I told you guys. So many idiots here went "players deserve to be paid for their work". They didn't realize that the students got the opportunity to show their skills/talent, AND they got a free education in the bargain.

So now deal with it.

I think they deserve to be paid, but the money should go into a "player 401K" that can't be touched until they graduate.

JT Daniels going to his fourth school in his college career, has covered west to east, north (somewhat) to south

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I think they deserve to be paid, but the money should go into a "player 401K" that can't be touched until they graduate.

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Seems like you are among those who created this mess.

Aggie1188 said:

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SinKiller said:

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I've watched less college football every year, starting when Mond and his boys pulled their stunt. I have no desire for A&M to win a "NC" by being the highest bidder. I think it's probably blown out of proportion a bit, but it's just unseemly. The "craft" and "talents' crowd is nauseating.

It's just not exciting to me. The Florida player last week is a perfect example, no question someone was in his ear telling him to "protect" himself.

I know there's an age cutoff, where a lot see nothing wrong with outwardly paying for players, but I just see it as a huge disappointment. At the current rate, I doubt I'll even be watching in 5 years. That is crazy because my life has revolved around college football. Hell, I got married on a Friday so as to be in Kyle on Saturday....for a Middle Tennesse State game in November of '95!

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oh that stunt triggered you, lil guy? Lmao. Weak humans like you are too hilarious.

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Please tell us where he's wrong because i agree with him 100%. But, it's obvious you know a lot and and are really smart.
What exactly do you disagree with in what he's posted?

No. NIL ruined it. Now the transfer portal just expedited the destruction

Seamaster said:

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The NIL and seasonal free agency.

I don't think we yet realize how disastrous this combination is for NCAA sports. They've created an semi-pro league. How long before the veneer of 'student athlete' drops the 'student' part. After all, is it 'fair' and 'equitable' to force football players to pass academic classes?

What's this going to look like in 10 years?

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It was fully professional for everyone and they all got to leave whenever they wanted except the players who couldn't get paid and had to honor their commitments. Seems more fair to me now.

Seamaster said:

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The NIL and seasonal free agency.

I don't think we yet realize how disastrous this combination is for NCAA sports. They've created an semi-pro league. How long before the veneer of 'student athlete' drops the 'student' part. After all, is it 'fair' and 'equitable' to force football players to pass academic classes?

What's this going to look like in 10 years?

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The term "student athlete" has been an oxymoron for many years. The addition of NIL and the transfer portal has made the NCAA a junior version of the NFL.

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It's now semi-pro with the veneer of education…

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"Now"

Funny.

In my opinion, the golden age for college football was 1985-2005. The rise of ESPN propelled it, and ultimately ruined it.

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One thing that might alleviate some of this mess is having a minimum two year requirement wherever you go. It'll never happen.

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I think they should be allowed 1 transfer with no repercussions, then have to sit out a year on the 2nd transfer.

htxag09 said:

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I'm pretty over college football but not really because of this. ESPN has made it damn near impossible to watch. I don't have time to, nor care to, sit down and watch multiple 4-5 hour games every weekend. I still watch and keep up with the Ags but don't think I watched an entire game that didn't involve A&M this year.

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This, the commercial breaks are getting ridiculous.

I remember watching a recorded A&M game last fall and was FF the commercials. At one point I FF for 12-minutes of 15 minutes in the broadcast. 3-minutes of play, 12-minutes of commercials. And there wasn't a big injury that took up a bunch of time. Just standard run of play.

And lets not get started on games being pushed to the ESPN AP because they only block 3-hours for a game that takes 3-1/2. The broadcast never comes on the ESPN AP on time. Several times our games have been pushed to the ESPN AP and by the time it finally shows up 5-minutes of the 1st quarter is gone.

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htxag09 said:

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Honest question, why is it done?

The majority of fans don't follow recruiting that closely and probably don't give two ****s if their starting QB was from UTSA, then Baylor, now at Alabama.....

I'm pretty over college football but not really because of this. ESPN has made it damn near impossible to watch. I don't have time to, nor care to, sit down and watch multiple 4-5 hour games every weekend. I still watch and keep up with the Ags but don't think I watched an entire game that didn't involve A&M this year.

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I suggest you get rid of ESPN and get YouTubeTV.

Seriously, I have had it for a couple of years now. I can record all college football games (very few exceptions) every week. After recording, I can use "key plays" for games I'm not that interested in, and I can fast-forward complete games to skip all commercials, time outs, reviews, etc...... that cuts the watching time very short for the complete games you want to watch.

Also, you can use the "key plays" approach, and when you get to a point where the game is interesting (e.g., tied going into the 4 Qtr), you can then watch the rest using the fast-forward approach to eliminated non-playing time.

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Except when the game doesn't start on time and the "recording' starts 10-minute into the game. Or the game goes long and there is no way to extend the recording.

With the YouTube TV, if I want to start watching a game that's already in progress from the start it's almost impossible to do without seeing the score. There is no option to "start at the beginning" of the game. You have to start the 'recorded' event and just rewind to the beginning. I've also had incidents when the guide says the game should be over, so the recording just stops and it jumps you to live TV and you miss 10-minutes of play.

I admit that's the one thing I really miss about cable DVR's. You could come up from kid activities Saturday afternoon, turn the the DVR and start a game that was 1-hour into play, catch up and watch the 4th quarter live. Also could extend the recording and not miss overtime and watch the whole game later.

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htxag09 said:

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I'm pretty over college football but not really because of this. ESPN has made it damn near impossible to watch. I don't have time to, nor care to, sit down and watch multiple 4-5 hour games every weekend. I still watch and keep up with the Ags but don't think I watched an entire game that didn't involve A&M this year.

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This, the commercial breaks are getting ridiculous.

I remember watching a recorded A&M game last fall and was FF the commercials. At one point I FF for 12-minutes of 15 minutes in the broadcast. 3-minutes of play, 12-minutes of commercials. And there wasn't a big injury that took up a bunch of time. Just standard run of play.

And lets not get started on games being pushed to the ESPN AP because they only block 3-hours for a game that takes 3-1/2. The broadcast never comes on the ESPN AP on time. Several times our games have been pushed to the ESPN AP and by the time it finally shows up 5-minutes of the 1st quarter is gone.

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I keep figuring that at some point the NCAA will change the rules and have the clock run on first downs in order to cut the length of the games.

I'm a product of 80s and 90s college football. Back when there wasn't emphasis on what jersey style is going to be worn. What mattered was the game... played by students who were there and loved their school.

It's ruined because those days are long gone. I haven't had any passion for NCAAF for years now because there's nothing to be passionate about.

one of the truths about sports --- both professional and college...

the more "rights" the players get...the worse it is for the fans

College football exists now for the benefit of the players, coaches and the programs. None of that benefits the fan.

SinKiller said:

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I've watched less college football every year, starting when Mond and his boys pulled their stunt. I have no desire for A&M to win a "NC" by being the highest bidder. I think it's probably blown out of proportion a bit, but it's just unseemly. The "craft" and "talents' crowd is nauseating.

It's just not exciting to me. The Florida player last week is a perfect example, no question someone was in his ear telling him to "protect" himself.

I know there's an age cutoff, where a lot see nothing wrong with outwardly paying for players, but I just see it as a huge disappointment. At the current rate, I doubt I'll even be watching in 5 years. That is crazy because my life has revolved around college football. Hell, I got married on a Friday so as to be in Kyle on Saturday....for a Middle Tennesse State game in November of '95!

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Pretty much my exact same thoughts.

agracer said:

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htxag09 said:

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I'm pretty over college football but not really because of this. ESPN has made it damn near impossible to watch. I don't have time to, nor care to, sit down and watch multiple 4-5 hour games every weekend. I still watch and keep up with the Ags but don't think I watched an entire game that didn't involve A&M this year.

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This, the commercial breaks are getting ridiculous.

I remember watching a recorded A&M game last fall and was FF the commercials. At one point I FF for 12-minutes of 15 minutes in the broadcast. 3-minutes of play, 12-minutes of commercials. And there wasn't a big injury that took up a bunch of time. Just standard run of play.

And lets not get started on games being pushed to the ESPN AP because they only block 3-hours for a game that takes 3-1/2. The broadcast never comes on the ESPN AP on time. Several times our games have been pushed to the ESPN AP and by the time it finally shows up 5-minutes of the 1st quarter is gone.

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Don't complain. They need to generate the funds to give to the pro athletes who play college football after you were the one advocating that they got paid.

Eric Forman said:

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I'm a product of 80s and 90s college football. Back when there wasn't emphasis on what jersey style is going to be worn. What mattered was the game... played by students who were there and loved their school.

It's ruined because those days are long gone. I haven't had any passion for NCAAF for years now because there's nothing to be passionate about.

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I agree completely. CFB is ruined. I saw it coming. Sad to be proved right. They have to fix it now else it will be destroyed forever. But now that big money is involved no one will do anything.

Lol let it go. This has been a problem long before nil. You really think games are 4+ hours for commercials so espn can pay players?

No, it's for the crazy ass contracts espn threw out to conferences.

TheTruthsLastHope said:

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Seamaster said:

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The NIL and seasonal free agency.

I don't think we yet realize how disastrous this combination is for NCAA sports. They've created an semi-pro league. How long before the veneer of 'student athlete' drops the 'student' part. After all, is it 'fair' and 'equitable' to force football players to pass academic classes?

What's this going to look like in 10 years?

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CFB will only become the best it can be once P5 leaves NCAA and schools are required to pay players. Not NIL where schools still profit and don't pay. Running a billion dollar industry without having to pay the workforce is nothing more than modern day slavery.

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I don't think you realize what slavery really is.

A slave has no choice in their status. No opportunity to leave. No opportunity to stop.
They are offered no education, and certainly never attained a status equivalent to the most important or revered person on campus. They didn't have the best lounge, training and dining facilities, and support staff assisting them to leave their campus to earn millions of dollar.


Slavery still exists in this world, and I can't imagine seeing a true slave and equating that to what royal treatment a college athlete receives.