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8&4AreYouSure?
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Does it really anger others like it does me when no one commits to our brand anymore? Anthony Hill was never committed to us if he flips that easily and to our rivals at that. No way in hell you could ever get a real aggie commit to wear burnt orange. Harold Perkins? He was never bought into our pride and amazing traditions we have. I like seeing a guy like Evan Stewart push through all the BS and stick his commitment with us and play his butt off. I want more guys that love aggieland and the fans! They can be 2 stars but Im tired of seeing so much flop and letting the sips and corn dogs just rub it in when they know they don't have the pride and tradition the 12th man does. You ever been to a UT game? it's boring and the fans just aren't what you see at KYLE my UT friend has actually told me this and i agree 1000%. Something needs to be changed. We have everything we need to win recruiting battles now we need to start getting these recruits to see how much the team and fans are in this with them. No reason for losing or losing recruits.

Just wanted to rant. thanks.
dixichkn
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At this point the words "committed" and "college football" don't even intersect
TexAggie1999
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Evan Stewart is likely staying because he knows he will get targeted a lot and has a good chance to be drafted high in two years moreso than any great love of the Aggies. If he hadn't had the playing time and personal sucess he had this year, I could easily see him gone.

Not many college football players have any great commitment to their universities when they come in anymore, especially the 5 star and high 4 star players. That is true for all schools. Some may develop that before they leave.
Sq 17
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The players are more likely commit to a " Brand " if the brand reflects their own brand
The U ( we are thugs ), Bama ( we win because of superior talent ) tu ( we are better than you ) & tOSU ( we are football team pretending to be a University )

A&M no longer has a definitive brand , of the handful of things that make up our brand most HS football players will not see that as complimentary to their brand.
Personally I disliked "We run this State" branding attempt By Sumlin but in hindsight it was a brand that if it would have caught on could have done well with recruits
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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i give you a 5 out of 10. not the worst troll i have ever seen but really not that great.
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BWEB4 said:

Does it really anger others like it does me when no one commits to our brand anymore? Anthony Hill was never committed to us if he flips that easily and to our rivals at that. No way in hell you could ever get a real aggie commit to wear burnt orange. Harold Perkins? He was never bought into our pride and amazing traditions we have. I like seeing a guy like Evan Stewart push through all the BS and stick his commitment with us and play his butt off. I want more guys that love aggieland and the fans! They can be 2 stars but Im tired of seeing so much flop and letting the sips and corn dogs just rub it in when they know they don't have the pride and tradition the 12th man does. You ever been to a UT game? it's boring and the fans just aren't what you see at KYLE my UT friend has actually told me this and i agree 1000%. Something needs to be changed. We have everything we need to win recruiting battles now we need to start getting these recruits to see how much the team and fans are in this with them. No reason for losing or losing recruits.

Just wanted to rant. thanks.
Thx rook
LB12Diamond
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My advice for any A&M coach is not lose 5 games in a row. That's a killer and if we had just won 3 more games, we would still have Hill.

And we should have easily won 3 more games with the teams we played this year. Jimbo messed up big time. I hope he can figure it out.

We still have some studs. Hicks and Owens are the real deal! We should get some corners.

We just need a couple of stud linebackers which makes the Hill ordeal even worse.
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NIL has created mercenaries and will change the landscape of college football like no other.
JohnLA762
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OP:

TX_Aggie37
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Players aren't committed until they sign. Even then they are only committed for a year or so.
Wrighty
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BWEB4 said:

Does it really anger others like it does me when no one commits to our brand anymore? Anthony Hill was never committed to us if he flips that easily and to our rivals at that. No way in hell you could ever get a real aggie commit to wear burnt orange. Harold Perkins? He was never bought into our pride and amazing traditions we have. I like seeing a guy like Evan Stewart push through all the BS and stick his commitment with us and play his butt off. I want more guys that love aggieland and the fans! They can be 2 stars but Im tired of seeing so much flop and letting the sips and corn dogs just rub it in when they know they don't have the pride and tradition the 12th man does. You ever been to a UT game? it's boring and the fans just aren't what you see at KYLE my UT friend has actually told me this and i agree 1000%. Something needs to be changed. We have everything we need to win recruiting battles now we need to start getting these recruits to see how much the team and fans are in this with them. No reason for losing or losing recruits.

Just wanted to rant. thanks.
These guys are supposed to go from "rationally and carefully evaluating multiple great options for college" straight to "fully 100% committed to the brand and hate the rivals" in an instant?

8&4AreYouSure?
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Hill was a must and so was perkins i think that's why it's frustrating. we can still nab some guys and i'm seeing grimes at like 50-50 towards us wnd usc right now so that would be a great DB i just don't understand why hill wouldn't want to come here and start right away
LB12Diamond
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BWEB4 said:

Hill was a must and so was perkins i think that's why it's frustrating. we can still nab some guys and i'm seeing grimes at like 50-50 towards us wnd usc right now so that would be a great DB i just don't understand why hill wouldn't want to come here and start right away


We were never getting Perkins unless we unloaded a ton of money and if we had even done that he probably still would have went LSU. He's from LA and all his family are tiger fans. If he had come here he would have not stayed or would have caused trouble most likely. You do remember burning the A&M hat, I hope. So I have no idea why A&M fans keep bringing him up. Let it go! We kicked his Ass this year anyway.

I think Texas picks a couple of players a year to throw the money truck at. Ewers last year.

Archie and Hill this year

When things don't make sense it is must likely money driven.
8&4AreYouSure?
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Some of these guys seem to have ties to the university and you would think have a little more love for it too is what I'm saying. I guess I was just different as a kid. I would've given anything to come play here and it seems like some of these kids do feel that way at a time. I just want more of those kids is what i'm saying. TU is old news and the basic college to go to. Change it up, come here, be apart of something bigger. I hate seeing hill committed for a quarter of a year and we lose him because we had some struggles.
TX_Aggie37
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BWEB4 said:

Some of these guys seem to have ties to the university and you would think have a little more love for it too is what I'm saying. I guess I was just different as a kid. I would've given anything to come play here and it seems like some of these kids do feel that way at a time. I just want more of those kids is what i'm saying. TU is old news and the basic college to go to. Change it up, come here, be apart of something bigger. I hate seeing hill committed for a quarter of a year and we lose him because we had some struggles.
Most of these kids aren't fans of any particular school. This is a business decision for them.
8&4AreYouSure?
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You are right I wouldn't have wanted Perkins due to his attitude but he's damn good. Same with Denver... hate to see him go but it's the for the best. I just hate the TU gets to unload the money truck and media doesn't start all this 30 million dollar fund BS. They are and always will be like bama paying players as much as they can. We get the shaft in the media and then go and have a bad year just to top it off to look worse. I can't stand the sips lol
8&4AreYouSure?
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i figure that but i also figure this atmosphere and tradition have to give some of them the chills even if they are studs or not. I get too worked up with recruiting though.
BlueSmoke
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NIL makes this even worse. Hire mercenaries, you play the mercenary game

With the new transfer rules, you also have to wonder how many kids at every school would have done this? Many just stay and bide their time quietly before that now are leaving?
Nobody cares. Work Harder
AgBandsman
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BWEB4 said:

Does it really anger others like it does me when no one commits to our brand anymore? Anthony Hill was never committed to us if he flips that easily and to our rivals at that. No way in hell you could ever get a real aggie commit to wear burnt orange. Harold Perkins? He was never bought into our pride and amazing traditions we have. I like seeing a guy like Evan Stewart push through all the BS and stick his commitment with us and play his butt off. I want more guys that love aggieland and the fans! They can be 2 stars but Im tired of seeing so much flop and letting the sips and corn dogs just rub it in when they know they don't have the pride and tradition the 12th man does. You ever been to a UT game? it's boring and the fans just aren't what you see at KYLE my UT friend has actually told me this and i agree 1000%. Something needs to be changed. We have everything we need to win recruiting battles now we need to start getting these recruits to see how much the team and fans are in this with them. No reason for losing or losing recruits.

Just wanted to rant. thanks.


There's no "real aggies" anymore. Whether on the football team or general student body. Get used to it and move on.
TexAggie1999
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Sq 17 said:

The players are more likely commit to a " Brand " if the brand reflects their own brand
The U ( we are thugs ), Bama ( we win because of superior talent ) tu ( we are better than you ) & tOSU ( we are football team pretending to be a University )

A&M no longer has a definitive brand , of the handful of things that make up our brand most HS football players will not see that as complimentary to their brand.
Personally I disliked "We run this State" branding attempt By Sumlin but in hindsight it was a brand that if it would have caught on could have done well with recruits


I think our "brand" is just Money, Money, Money based on Jimbo's contract, NIL recruiting, and our fanbase and administration's attitude that spending more money can fix any problem.
TexAggie1999
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LB12Diamond said:

BWEB4 said:

Hill was a must and so was perkins i think that's why it's frustrating. we can still nab some guys and i'm seeing grimes at like 50-50 towards us wnd usc right now so that would be a great DB i just don't understand why hill wouldn't want to come here and start right away


We were never getting Perkins unless we unloaded a ton of money and if we had even done that he probably still would have went LSU. He's from LA and all his family are tiger fans. If he had come here he would have not stayed or would have caused trouble most likely. You do remember burning the A&M hat, I hope. So I have no idea why A&M fans keep bringing him up. Let it go! We kicked his Ass this year anyway.

I think Texas picks a couple of players a year to throw the money truck at. Ewers last year.

Archie and Hill this year

When things don't make sense it is must likely money driven.


Don't make yourself sound ignorant. Hill may or may not have been bought. It is very possible he was just like many players. Saying Archie Manning was bought just makes you look ignorant. If you paid attention to any recruiting outside of A&M, you would realize how ignorant it is to say Manning was bought.
TexAggie1999
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There are still "real Aggies" in the student body (and probably even on the football team), but it is a MUCH lower percentage than in the past. There are many reasoms, not the least of which is the ridiculous goal of growing enrollment insanely at any cost.
mrfun83
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Perhaps we change the terminology. Use "affiliation" instead of "commitment" on ESD.
No commitment until LOI comes over the wire.
winorgetadog
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Our brand is 5-7. I'm just as mad about the current recruiting situation but not surprised. Ultimately we need to win or show an upward trajectory to flip the narrative back.
rootube
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Referring to your team as a brand is language horn would use because they have an inflated self worth. Please try to do better.
TheTruthsLastHope
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rootube said:

Referring to your team as a brand is language horn would use because they have an inflated self worth. Please try to do better.


Many teams refer to their program as a brand. This obsession with Texas simply can't be healthy.
rootube
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TheTruthsLastHope said:

rootube said:

Referring to your team as a brand is language horn would use because they have an inflated self worth. Please try to do better.


Many teams refer to their program as a brand. This obsession with Texas simply can't be healthy.


True many people do this. So many that there is a word for it. ******.

Ha! Looks like Texags doesn't like the word!
TheTruthsLastHope
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rootube said:

TheTruthsLastHope said:

rootube said:

Referring to your team as a brand is language horn would use because they have an inflated self worth. Please try to do better.


Many teams refer to their program as a brand. This obsession with Texas simply can't be healthy.


True many people do this. So many that there is a word for it. ******.


Does this also apply to AnM being that is also used here?
aggiedad7
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winorgetadog said:

Our brand is 5-7. I'm just as mad about the current recruiting situation but not surprised. Ultimately we need to win or show an upward trajectory to flip the narrative back.
Normally in year 5 and going 5-7 you make a coaching change and a new coach will bring some momentum from wherever he came from. That's what's really killed us. The lock in to Jimbo.
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aggiedad7 said:

winorgetadog said:

Our brand is 5-7. I'm just as mad about the current recruiting situation but not surprised. Ultimately we need to win or show an upward trajectory to flip the narrative back.
Normally in year 5 and going 5-7 you make a coaching change and a new coach will bring some momentum from wherever he came from. That's what's really killed us. The lock in to Jimbo.


Exactly. If he can't be fired there's no true incentive for real progress.
Krazykat
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With NIL money and the transfer portal, there is no true commitment anymore. This is now the NFL-lite.
MEENag
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JohnLA762 said:

OP:




Gotta slam that front foot down.
DuncanLEO
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rootube said:

Referring to your team as a brand is language horn would use because they have an inflated self worth. Please try to do better.
You had better have an eye towards branding, college sports is big business and we stand to gain quite a bit.
Aggie1188
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Our brand is more associated with male cheerleaders than not.
LB12Diamond
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TexAggie1999 said:

LB12Diamond said:

BWEB4 said:

Hill was a must and so was perkins i think that's why it's frustrating. we can still nab some guys and i'm seeing grimes at like 50-50 towards us wnd usc right now so that would be a great DB i just don't understand why hill wouldn't want to come here and start right away


We were never getting Perkins unless we unloaded a ton of money and if we had even done that he probably still would have went LSU. He's from LA and all his family are tiger fans. If he had come here he would have not stayed or would have caused trouble most likely. You do remember burning the A&M hat, I hope. So I have no idea why A&M fans keep bringing him up. Let it go! We kicked his Ass this year anyway.

I think Texas picks a couple of players a year to throw the money truck at. Ewers last year.

Archie and Hill this year

When things don't make sense it is must likely money driven.


Don't make yourself sound ignorant. Hill may or may not have been bought. It is very possible he was just like many players. Saying Archie Manning was bought just makes you look ignorant. If you paid attention to any recruiting outside of A&M, you would realize how ignorant it is to say Manning was bought.


You always call people ignorant or at I just the lucky one.

Not sure why you are focused Archie. Ok, let non ignorant ass and he was not bought. I don't care bc I don't think he's any good.

But Ewers was definitely bought and he's also average. Weigman is better than both of them by a long way.

And Hill was thrown a ton of money.

Now you go ahead with small mind and throw out nice statements to other posters.
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