Out of all my years watching the Aggies, I have never seen such a **** show of injuries in one season. WTF? You don't see that at LSU, Bama, sips...Again WTF? Why us? I know we have been cursed since 1940, but the curse God's who own us, are utterly confused. On a side note....I have never seen such a **** show in our football program. Someone please help me with my BAS tonight....started drinking around noon.

I totally agree with you 94....I'm assuming ur around my class, where we usually injured the players from the other teams......see Quentin Coryatt

Quote:

---

Stronger muscles support the joints more effectively.

---

Not according to Jimbo. All of our injuries are just bad luck, he says.

So how many of these injuries can actually be attributed to the strength and conditioning program?

Serious question. I know S&C gets the blame here in the zoo. I member playing football and all the training in the world wouldn't have prevented me from breaking my ankle…S&C might be part of the reason we have such big players getting blown off the LOS.

Better example. Better S&C wouldn't have prevented Max from breaking his throwing hand

Or Anias Smith from fracturing his leg
Or Stewart from having a concussion
It's not unusual for offensive linemen to have jacked up knees

NavyVetAg said:

---

So how many of these injuries can actually be attributed to the strength and conditioning program?

Serious question. I know S&C gets the blame here in the zoo. I member playing football and all the training in the world wouldn't have prevented me from breaking my ankle…S&C might be part of the reason we have such big players getting blown off the LOS.

Better example. Better S&C wouldn't have prevented Max from breaking his throwing hand

---

Not exactly true. If the line hadn't gotten pushed back into him, he wouldn't have broken his hand. So strength and conditioning could definitely have prevented it.

Navy, I find it lovely that you spent some time to find exceptions. It's really cute. Maybe you have a better explanation.

Maybe it wasn't S&C, maybe they had the wrong zodiac signs. I am a former full ride athlete and so is my wife. I can tell you from my own personal experience that when you are in optimal shape, you are injured less.

Max is what happens when you have an offensive line that is full of back ups because the starters were injured. Anias, I don't know why we use him as a between the tackles back. I would have used him something like they use Debo Samuels.

Injuries come with the game, but what we have is a disproportionate number of injured players compared to other teams.

Do you recommend some human sacrifices or burnt offering to stem the bad luck?

The SEC is very physical league. Every year when we plan Bama we have a ton of injuries.

I blame the DJ

Dallas, Please educate us as to where the abundance of injuries stem from?

I was a fan of Schmidt and Jimbo was smart for bringing him here. He may have had some injuries like every other program, but it was nothing like what we are experiencing now.

Jimbo has a problem with making changes. He can see the bus coming, he just can't seem to step out of the way.

Anias was hurt as a leading blocker out of the backfield, typically a fullback.

That's a stupid ass ****ing coach.

maroongoon95 said:

---

Out of all my years watching the Aggies, I have never seen such a **** show of injuries in one season. WTF? You don't see that at LSU, Bama, sips...Again WTF? Why us? I know we have been cursed since 1940, but the curse God's who own us, are utterly confused. On a side note....I have never seen such a **** show in our football program. Someone please help me with my BAS tonight....started drinking around noon.

---

Don't recruit guys on steroids and are to big for their bones oh and don't smoke pot

ag94ag said:

---

We used to have a great S&C program when Jimbo first got here. That guy that ran it left and now we have one of Jimbo's old S&C guys running that for us.

The program relies on a solid S&C program. Stronger muscles support the joints more effectively. S&C usually sets the standard for mental toughness and discipline as well.

There are a million reasons for our failures in the football program, but not a single excuse. We have given Jimbo absolutely every resource and financial backing that he has asked for. He has hired poorly and stuck with sub par performing coaches as well as players for far too long.

---

I'd take it a step further and say that much like Jimbo's approach to football, his S&C programming is probably antiquated as well. He's probably got guys in there trying to max out squats and bench presses every day instead of a modern approach to strength and conditioning. One that focuses on diet, recovery, flexibility, strength, endurance, etc. It doesn't matter if you bench more than the next guy if your tendons and joints can't support your muscles or if your diet is so crappy you can't recover and build.

This would explain the massive amount of injuries.

Proc92 said:

---

I thought smith was blocking downfield on a scramble by Johnson who was tackled into smith.

---

You can think what you want, still wrong

ag94ag said:

---

Dallas, Please educate us as to where the abundance of injuries stem from?

I was a fan of Schmidt and Jimbo was smart for bringing him here. He may have had some injuries like every other program, but it was nothing like what we are experiencing now.

Jimbo has a problem with making changes. He can see the bus coming, he just can't seem to step out of the way.

---

You have two questions. I'll take the last one 1st.

You claim Jimbo has a problem with making changes. I've heard he is rigid and it is his lack of willingness to change that most have an issue. Is that your issue? Because, losing Schmidt and Elko were likely not choices he wanted. I don't know of anyone that wanted to lose either of them. In those two cases not making a change would have been my desire. You too, I suppose?!

My point about injuries is... I gave 11 examples of players that had nothing to do with Sanders as S&C. Do you disagree with any of them? I'm a fan of Schmidt. Disappointed he left. I'd have to know more about any changes Sanders might have made, if any. To blame him just because it is easy may not fix anything.

In a nutshell - SEC.

Pat Henry had a recent season with a bunch of injuries and it showed in the results. A&M T&F didn't do well. He was asked. He basically said (Summary): "We are asking athletes to do things their bodies were not designed to do. Injuries are a natural part of it and you don't know where that limit is until you've passed it."

Having said all that... we have always had injuries. It seems like we've had more injuries this year but I would have to go back to say how much worse this year.

I think the injuries might be worse. I also think it goes back to being hurt or injured. I think a player like Foster likely tries to gut it through the season if we're playing Conf championship. Some injuries you decide to hang up for the season to get a jump on rehab.

You need at least two QBs to get through the SEC. You are going to have a QB injury.

One last point. I think changing an OL and S&C coach are hazards to consider regarding injury. Not necessarily out of negligence or incompetence. It is about muscle memory and training. If you sleep "wrong" on your neck it isn't because you are an incompetent sleeper, it is likely you slept on it differently than your body is accustomed.

If an new OL coach has a slight difference how a 6'5"/300 lb guy is supposed to pull along the line, he might tweak an ankle... a knee... that suddenly starts discomfort. Now, the player may start favoring his ankle/knee that then causes additional issues.

I'm not saying either change isn't a cause, I'd likely just disagree about why. Not because they aren't good, but because they are retooling a machine that had a different routine. Having said that... of the 11 injuries I listed, none of that applies, AFAIK. In game broken bones, injuries before coming to campus. Mono.

The answer to every question is that we're playing 19 year old children against 24 year old NFL 80th men.

When you aren't the aggressor you are more likely to be injured and vice versa.

Team sucks

yell_on_6th st said:

---

Anias was hurt as a leading blocker out of the backfield, typically a fullback.

That's a stupid ass ****ing coach.

---

Ummm... maybe we have differing views on what a Fullback and Slot looks like... and lead blocker.

WRs have to block. It is just part of the game.

Proc92 said:

---

I thought smith was blocking downfield on a scramble by Johnson who was tackled into smith.

---

Smith was lined up in the Slot. It was a QB option.


1:39:00 mark

A_Gang_Ag_06 said:

---

ag94ag said:

---

We used to have a great S&C program when Jimbo first got here. That guy that ran it left and now we have one of Jimbo's old S&C guys running that for us.

The program relies on a solid S&C program. Stronger muscles support the joints more effectively. S&C usually sets the standard for mental toughness and discipline as well.

There are a million reasons for our failures in the football program, but not a single excuse. We have given Jimbo absolutely every resource and financial backing that he has asked for. He has hired poorly and stuck with sub par performing coaches as well as players for far too long.

---

I'd take it a step further and say that much like Jimbo's approach to football, his S&C programming is probably antiquated as well. He's probably got guys in there trying to max out squats and bench presses every day instead of a modern approach to strength and conditioning. One that focuses on diet, recovery, flexibility, strength, endurance, etc. It doesn't matter if you bench more than the next guy if your tendons and joints can't support your muscles or if your diet is so crappy you can't recover and build.

This would explain the massive amount of injuries.

---

If you put just one sec of effort you'd realize you are wrong on both accounts.

See my post above about S&C. He went out and got arguably the best S&C coach and pulled him away from 17 years at OU. So, unless OU let him go because he was antiquated, your argument is just simply wrong.

To prove my point... Venables was at OU when Schmidt was the S&C coach. Venables spent a decade at Clemson, whom most on here was not argue is antiquated with their NC success.

Well, Venables just pursuaded Schmidt to return to OU.

Ironically, Jimbo's Offense was antiquated 2 years ago when we finished 4th.

Because you touch yourself at night?

Grayletter said:

---

Quote:

---

Stronger muscles support the joints more effectively.

---

Not according to Jimbo. All of our injuries are just bad luck, he says.

---

And poor execution.

Injuries and random ball bounces cannot be accounted for. Freak injuries happen, and as Dallas pointed out quite a lot occurred off campus, in high school and at showcase games. The law of averages is unforgiving, but by that same law eventually A&M is due for a relatively injury-free season on random chance alone. Just not this year; this is the kind of outlier season that resets the curve. Eventually offensive linemen will stop evaporating to medical retirement and a seasoned line will emerge.

Simple. 18 year olds haven't been in the S&C program long. They get injured vS physical
SEC opponents

ag94ag said:

---

We used to have a great S&C program when Jimbo first got here. That guy that ran it left and now we have one of Jimbo's old S&C guys running that for us.

The program relies on a solid S&C program. Stronger muscles support the joints more effectively. S&C usually sets the standard for mental toughness and discipline as well.

There are a million reasons for our failures in the football program, but not a single excuse. We have given Jimbo absolutely every resource and financial backing that he has asked for. He has hired poorly and stuck with sub par performing coaches as well as players for far too long.

---

You mean, the same S&C program when sumlin was around? The one that led to November collapses seemingly every year??

Hate to break it to y'all but it's probably not a good idea to argue with Dallas on this one.

Not kidding - he's taking about stuff that 95% of us don't understand.

It's no exaggeration to say that not only do the vast majority of people on this board not know basic formations, but don't even know where the ball is on the field until the replay.

Ainias's injury was just dumb luck. The others i believe to be shoddy training related. Well trained and maintain teams don't get injured. Strength and Conditioning program needs to be reviewed for sure.