All we need is a Heisman-winning generational talent QB. Maybe it's Weigman?

No. There's no excuse.

He is an exceptionally stubborn man with a ridiculous contract given to him by an inept administration. However, he's a pretty good football coach and a great recruiter with the resources he needs to win. If we stay healthy, he has a decent chance to win a championship in 2024 or 2025. If he hasn't done it by then, probably time to cut him loose and the contract will be manageable. I'm on board, strangely.

Yes.

I choose to, because it doesn't matter. Being unhappy about it and insisting that your opinion matters is a recipe for unhappiness.

Like the new DP commercial says... these are just kids with a ball... cheer for them, have low expectations, and enjoy it when the good seasons roll around.

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I do, but he definitely needs to change some thinks up. Like relinquish the OC to someone else. He needs to be the head coach only.

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This! His bungling of game management situations because he's too wrapped up in the play calling is one of the biggest issues.

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This. Everyone wants to complain about his offense without understanding offense. It does work and works well. The problem, as he has stated many times, is execution. False starts. Holds. Missed blocks. You name it.

And whose job is it to fix that? The HC. If we wasn't so absorbed in play calling duties he might find the time to fix the obvious issues we have in "execution". If he can do that, we can do very well. But as every business owner for all time has learned, it you try to do it all, you'll never grow. We can keep the exact same offense and win if he could just give himself the time to stay present in what's happening right now in both practice and games.

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Yes…..but Durkin needs to gone

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Second.

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I wouldn't fire Jimbo if the buyout was zero. Just look at t.u.'s cycle of head coaching futility. No thank you.

His offense sucks bad, but we medically retired like 6 OL in the last 2 years and had most of our OL starters get hurt this year. Then we lost our top WR and had 2 QBs get hurt. Name another offense who succeeded in those circumstances. The majority of the team is freshmen. If we don't see major improvement next year then I'll doubt Jimbo, but the man has had 2 bad seasons in like 20 years, and both seasons had crazy injuries.

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Is our futility any less egregious than theirs? Slocum, Fran, Sherman, Sumlin and now Fisher. If buyout was not so large, most would support firing Fisher. We'd then be on our sixth head coach in 20 years.

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Gates and Byrne both acknowledged Slocum was hampered by facilities. And Byrne started trying to deal with it but notably took a loan of $16 million from the academic side to start that process, was stadium-revenue focused, and turned down the (arguably awful) of 1/3rd revenue from a shared network with Texas. In retrospect that likely was a rejection of the wrong strategy, but we also didn't adequately fund hiring under Fran and Sherman. So we got exactly what we paid for.

Sumlin and Jimbo definitely turned some corner on how we looked at hiring. And funding coordinators and position coaches. Sumlin did better at first (not going to regurgitate the history) and so far Jimbo did better in the third of his five years. Both 2012 and 2020 were signal years. Both led to the (eventual) loss of critical coordinators Kingsbury and Elmo to HC positions (which is a good problem to have because that happens when you succeed.)

Sumlin's replacements of KK were generally underwhelming. Was that a funding issue? Jimbo has a history of under focusing on oline position coaching and already is on his third in five years here. What is that? And Durkin is like a Saban hire: take someone with HC experience and plug them in and see how it goes.

Fans viewed firing of Sumlin and now Jimbo as a "fix" but only because changing coaches is magical. Byrne viewed development of the oline as strategic and supported especially Sherman's program to do it right. I don't know what the strategy is to fix the shortcomings. But I doubt constantly firing coaches is a strategy. Seems more like a knee jerk reaction and is very Texas A&M. Maybe we need to consider how to change that instinct???

At first, no I didn't.

But I've come around to believing in him after re-watching Friday Night Lights and watching Coach Taylor struggle between Saracen and JD. Jimbo knows something's wrong, and will take steps to fix it

Yessir

Hand the clipboard over to the best OC available

New DC

Continue to recruit at a high level

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." - Scott Fitzgerald

I can believe Jimbo is a very good coach while also realizing he's made some bad mistakes.

I can see we have an incredibly talented roster while also knowing injury and inexperience have killed us.

I can be disappointed in our record while understanding 4 of our 5 losses are by less than one possession.

Yes, just because an elephant weighs 3 tons, it diesnt mean he cant fly if his ears are really big and proportioned just right. i think
jim- OH WAIT!!!


JIMbo???? nah, dont believe in him.

A very young team
new position coaches
4 season ending injuries
2 average QBs and a third which might be the answer
First unhappy year since his arrival

Miracles don't happen overnight and those of you jealous souls who hate his guts because he makes a lot of money...who cares, it's not you paying it all out.


I wonder if the critics will have the moral courage to jump right in on the zoo's links and tell the world how wrong you were when Jimbo turns it around.

Is this a trick question? App State? at $9mil/ year? at home? Really?

I mean - Really?????

No, if not for contract he would be fired. Look at coaches before him and fired over less and given less than him

Now can he be a ceo head coach and change offense? If so, he can be the guy to win big here

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Is this a trick question? App State? at $9mil/ year? at home? Really?

I mean - Really?????

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Internet tough guy virtue signaling.

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The only way I'll trust he can do what he's paid to do, win a National Championship, is by bringing in a legitimate OC this off-season who works play design and actually utilizes all our talent.

So ask me in February.

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Bingo. If at the end of his tenure we didn't win a national championship or at the VERY least a conference championship then he was just another sumlin

In my experience, you can go through a bunch of coaches, and they'll sound great on paper, maybe even have decent seasons, go to a couple bowl games, but when the right one comes along, you'll know it.

I do, if NIL doesn't ruin college football and turn it into the NFL minor leagues.

When Jimbo was hired, wasn't our mindset that it would take 10 years to build a sustainable championship level program? Now is the time to be patient and see what happens. If Jimbo doesn't do anything of substance, we gave him more than enough time, and our job will be an attractive one for whoever is the best coaching candidate at that time.

Yes. See Michigan and Harbaugh, UCLA, Clemson early on. Who would you get if you canned him? .500 Sark, Michigan State found out this year they are not contenders, same with Baylor. There aren't a lot of sure locks. Jimbo is close to having a Clemson like run with CW at the helm if studs stay. Don't panic and knee jerk bc we were overrated and have lost games due to qb play and have been close despite.

here's the problem with the facilities excuse...

yes, OU & t.u. had better facilities in the late 90's...and if R.C. had only been losing to those 2 programs...he would still be A&M's head coach.

but Texas Tech had horrible facilities. Colorado's were even worse. But those 2 programs plus Missouri were putting bad losses on A&M during R.C.'s final seasons.

those 3 schools with poor facilities combined to beat the Ags 5 times in R.C. last 3 seasons

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I don't have confidence in ANYONE that has multiple years of guaranteed income. Where's the incentive?

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If you can't look at Jimbo and see that it looks like he hasn't slept since.....ever......that's on you.

If Jimbo can keep the talent we have, fill in the weak spots with recruiting and the portal and develop a Heisman contending QB, I think he can win a National Championship. But he must get a great QB to do it. Hopefully, Connor Weigman is the one !,

Yep. Lots of underclassmen getting valuable PT, think this year is simply a learning curve for them (considering how much we lost last year).

Jimbo has a duty and obligation to be self objective. Doing the same thing is not working. Lack of experienced depth in year 5 is mismanagement.

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here's the problem with the facilities excuse...

yes, OU & t.u. had better facilities in the late 90's...and if R.C. had only been losing to those 2 programs...he would still be A&M's head coach.

but Texas Tech had horrible facilities. Colorado's were even worse. But those 2 programs plus Missouri were putting bad losses on A&M during R.C.'s final seasons.

those 3 schools with poor facilities combined to beat the Ags 5 times in R.C. last 3 seasons

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None of the traditional powers perennially underinvest.

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If Jimbo beats LSU a lot of the awfulness of this season will be forgiven

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No, beating LSU does NOT come close to making up for a 5 loss season (minimum) including a loss to App State. Losing to App State is a much bigger negatuve than winning against LSU is a positive. This isn't 2019 LSU.

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When Jimbo was hired, wasn't our mindset that it would take 10 years to build a sustainable championship level program? Now is the time to be patient and see what happens. If Jimbo doesn't do anything of substance, we gave him more than enough time, and our job will be an attractive one for whoever is the best coaching candidate at that time.

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No. It wasn't. He wouldn't have been hired if it took ten years to win a title.

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During the offseason, I would like to see Jimbo Fisher make the following changes.

1. Hire a good offensive coordinator and delegate play-calling to him.

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The New OC needs to bring an entirely new offense. NO MORE JIMBO BALL!

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I wouldn't fire Jimbo if the buyout was zero. Just look at t.u.'s cycle of head coaching futility. No thank you.

His offense sucks bad, but we medically retired like 6 OL in the last 2 years and had most of our OL starters get hurt this year. Then we lost our top WR and had 2 QBs get hurt. Name another offense who succeeded in those circumstances. The majority of the team is freshmen. If we don't see major improvement next year then I'll doubt Jimbo, but the man has had 2 bad seasons in like 20 years, and both seasons had crazy injuries.

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I would fire Jimbo today if money wasn't an issue.
This is year 5 ! He will not get it done .

Yep

I think he is a good coach, not a great coach. He lost 4 last year and will lose at least 5 this year.

It doesn't matter if I believe in him or not. What matters is if the Board of Regents and Sharp believe in him. Either way, they will tell the AD what to do.