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Can someone explain why we are a 4 point under dog?

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maroongoon95
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Texas A&M:
1. Mostly 4 and 5 star players
2. 100,000 seat stadium (loudest crowd noise)
3. Top 10 recruiting classes the past 4 years
4. The top football facilities in the nation.
5. Top 5 coach in the nation?

Mississippi State
1. Mostly 2 and 3 stars players
2. Rinky dink stadium with cow bells
3. Averaging the top 40 recruiting classes the past 4 years.
4. Sub par football facilities for an SEC school
5. A journey man coach at from bareley above average programs.

Can someone explain the logic, signed, BAS master
ord89
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19 year Olds Vs 22 year Olds. Big difference.
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Two words:

Vey-Gus


Seriously they just want even betting on both sides of the line. People think A&M didn't win last week and the bettors who don't know your stats would be too much on State if we were favored. So. They work to get betting Line even more even. more money
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Have you seen us play? It's an away game, so home field advantage to Ms St. We haven't been playing consistently at all. I don't blame them for the odds. I just hope they're wrong. I hope the team has focused and put in the effort this week to come out on top tomorrow.
Because I'm Batman!

Crazy Ag 97
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2 and 4 are completely irrelevant. 5 is just wrong. Jimbo is a good coach but overrated, and Leech is a solid coach that is slightly underrated. Leech consistently out coached us. It's that simple.
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Pirate offensive mad genius with history of record setting offenses vs self proclaimed QB whisperer history of bad offense
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It's easy, really. Rankings and Vegas like to get pretty "scientific" with their predictions and go with the eyeball test. That's what college football is based on when you think about it. Right now, they know A&M is playing with a lot of youth and going on the road to an opposing SEC team's stadium for the first time this season. Mississippi State passes their eyeball test by putting up a lot of points, and they are at home - they're also averaging 37 points a game. The Aggies, on the other hand, were opportunistic in the Arkansas game, but are not in a betting man's best interest right now because of how limited the offense has performed. That part is widely publicized, so it's challenging for anyone to pick us. We are averaging just over 21 points per game. While the defense has been the equalizer in our wins, will it perform well enough, on the road, against a high-scoring offense to turn the tide in the Farmer's favor? Vegas does not think so. I, on the other hand, happen to predict the defense holds up just eough, and the offense is able to build off of the Arkansas game to continue moving the ball on the ground to score some points, and play keep away from the Pups, to take the W on the road.
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theBaum said:

It's easy, really. Rankings and Vegas like to get pretty "scientific" with their predictions and go with the eyeball test. That's what college football is based on when you think about it. Right now, they know A&M is playing with a lot of youth and going on the road to an opposing SEC team's stadium for the first time this season. Mississippi State passes their eyeball test by putting up a lot of points, and they are at home - they're also averaging 37 points a game. The Aggies, on the other hand, were opportunistic in the Arkansas game, but are not in a betting man's best interest right now because of how limited the offense has performed. That part is widely publicized, so it's challenging for anyone to pick us. We are averaging just over 21 points per game. While the defense has been the equalizer in our wins, will it perform well enough, on the road, against a high-scoring offense to turn the tide in the Farmer's favor? Vegas does not think so. I, on the other hand, happen to predict the defense holds up just eough, and the offense is able to build off of the Arkansas game to continue moving the ball on the ground to score some points, and play keep away from the Pups, to take the W on the road.

Also, our most proven wr is out for the season
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Our game plan sucks and Leach has a good one for us.
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maroongoon95 said:

Texas A&M:
1. Mostly 4 and 5 star players
2. 100,000 seat stadium (loudest crowd noise)
3. Top 10 recruiting classes the past 4 years
4. The top football facilities in the nation.
5. Top 5 coach in the nation?

Mississippi State
1. Mostly 2 and 3 stars players
2. Rinky dink stadium with cow bells
3. Averaging the top 40 recruiting classes the past 4 years.
4. Sub par football facilities for an SEC school
5. A journey man coach at from bareley above average programs.

Can someone explain the logic, signed, BAS master



May I ask what our stadium size has to do with this game?
maroongoon95
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What's truly baffling is our past 4 years recruits vs. Theirs? Our coaching staff vs. Theirs? It just doesn't make sense. Can some explain those variables?
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First real away game and hostile crowd, and those damn cowbells get pretty unnerving. Answer, put it to Miss State early and often and take the cowbells out of the game.
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Jimbo Fisher
"IN BILL BYRNE WE TRUST"
TAMUallen
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It's not that hard.

Leach has an offense oriented team. We have a good defense.

Our offense is not scoring points. Therefore Mississippi state is favored at home
maroongoon95
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IT IS HARD......WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYERS , THEY DO NOT! IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.....HOW ARE WE UNDERDOGS?
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Because they are mistaken. We win 35-21.
DGrimesAg92
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Have you "NOT" watched our anemic offense at work?

Leach has, they watch tapes. They'll put 8 or 9 in the box and dare us to throw it, we won't. Jimbo will try to "outwit" a guy with 5 plays, won't work….because, they watch tapes.

Defensively, we'll continue to run a 3 man front and they'll expose our LB's and run through us until we load the box, then they'll start throwing it down field, because they watch tapes.

We need this team to finish 6-6 or 7-5, so the pressure can be put on Jimbo to hire an OC. If not, Jimbo will believe what he's doing is working. That happens and we turn into another FSU, but with more money.

Never lose sight, this coaching staff got out coached by Appalachian State.

MSU 31
TAMU 13
Craigy
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The vegas line is set to generate bets and income. That's it
Agsrback12
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If we can play a 4 man front defense, and run the ball, then stick with the run we will destroy them. It's that simple

If we can't run the ball and we play a 3 man front, Leach will do what he does once or twice a year snd pull another upset.
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maroongoon95 said:

IT IS HARD......WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYERS , THEY DO NOT! IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.....HOW ARE WE UNDERDOGS?


BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM.
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Their coach is better than ours. So much better that their coaching and preparation will beat our 4 and 5 star players.
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1. We have been playing poorly.

2. 2nd week on the road.

3. Anias Smith is gone.

4. Mike Leach always beats A&M

5. We have a top 5 coach in salary only.

6. Our base D has a 3-man front.

7. MSU has had our number recently.

8. We have a VERY low scoring offense.

9. MSU has home field advantage.

10. We are a perpetually young team.

That's my top 10. Let me know if you need more
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BLSD said:

Have you "NOT" watched our anemic offense at work?

Leach has, they watch tapes. They'll put 8 or 9 in the box and dare us to throw it, we won't. Jimbo will try to "outwit" a guy with 5 plays, won't work….because, they watch tapes.

Defensively, we'll continue to run a 3 man front and they'll expose our LB's and run through us until we load the box, then they'll start throwing it down field, because they watch tapes.

We need this team to finish 6-6 or 7-5, so the pressure can be put on Jimbo to hire an OC. If not, Jimbo will believe what he's doing is working. That happens and we turn into another FSU, but with more money.

Never lose sight, this coaching staff got out coached by Appalachian State.

MSU 31
TAMU 13


If they "dare us" to throw, they're screwed.
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Good night nurse this thread!
Ags4DaWin
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Leach has a history of kicking a&m in the nuts.

Our offense hasn't scored more than 17 points in 3 straight games while Leach tends to be able to score alot of points.

(Our offense sucks ass and we only won the last two games because opposing field goal kickers missed field goals they should have made)
dannyv
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Guys, OP is a troll.
NowhereMan
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A Smith we were favored then he got hurt
spherical
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They have a more consistent shade of maroon
Pound the Rock
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Our offense is dead last in plays per game and next to last in top. That's in the entire country. Our defense is ranked the 100s in sacks per game, rushing defense, and takeaways per game.

We have been outgained and outcoached in every one of our fbs games this year, even at home.

But hey, at least we are only playing a top offense in our first true road game of the season.

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Ian Neff said:

BLSD said:

Have you "NOT" watched our anemic offense at work?

Leach has, they watch tapes. They'll put 8 or 9 in the box and dare us to throw it, we won't. Jimbo will try to "outwit" a guy with 5 plays, won't work….because, they watch tapes.

Defensively, we'll continue to run a 3 man front and they'll expose our LB's and run through us until we load the box, then they'll start throwing it down field, because they watch tapes.

We need this team to finish 6-6 or 7-5, so the pressure can be put on Jimbo to hire an OC. If not, Jimbo will believe what he's doing is working. That happens and we turn into another FSU, but with more money.

Never lose sight, this coaching staff got out coached by Appalachian State.

MSU 31
TAMU 13


If they "dare us" to throw, they're screwed.


They're or we're??
Phoenix1
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Because A&M is Mike Leach's butt b$&ch
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Entourageag07 said:

Our offense is dead last in plays per game and next to last in top. That's in the entire country. Our defense is ranked the 100s in sacks per game, rushing defense, and takeaways per game.

We have been outgained and outcoached in every one of our fbs games this year, even at home.

But hey, at least we are only playing a top offense in our first true road game of the season.




Damn, you guys are serious. Just straight up brutal but pretty much dead-on accurate. Unfortunate it is.

I pray at night that Jimbo somehow comes to a moment of clarity & see's that he is needed 100% in HC duties.
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maroongoon95 said:

IT IS HARD......WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYERS , THEY DO NOT! IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.....HOW ARE WE UNDERDOGS?


How did that work out for App St?

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Showed up completely unprepared last time. I thought that was why Elko was let go. Showed up completely unprepared for hillbilly inbred U this year. Elko wasn't the problem. Jimbo doesn't seem like the type to fail that badly twice, but that's what's the oddsmakers believe. Not surprising at all.
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The 3 Man Front is tailored to the Pirate Offense. They won't have numbers by their receivers. Our 3 man front is Quick enough to get pressure on the QB. BUT... If Leach also used to like those real wide splits and we have to watch them running.

I don't think they have faced a defense as talented as ours. Our D hasn't come close to reaching their peak.

Offensively. Is Moose, or Jalen or Chase going to get more attempts, or will Max look for FR TE's and Receivers. YES Sub-Zero being gone is a huge LEADERSHIP loss. Who or Will someone be next to step up for the critical catch in crunch time. Or we'll have to execute across the board consistently enough we won't get to crunch time.

I think the our FR receivers will become more featured. They seem to be able to get open.

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And for what it's worth the talking heads picked the OVER at 45.5 thinking MsSt will score a lot. Again, I don't think MsSt has played a team as talented as the Ags. But then again Leach does have a Long History of success against us, and he's proud of it!!!
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