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11:07a, 3/4/22
Apparently it was his daughter that was dating Demas. And he and his wife caught Demas on his way to the Title IX hearing and went after him....

https://www.kxxv.com/brazos/police-demond-demas-attacked-by-former-nfl-player-on-texas-a-m-campus
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11:11a, 3/4/22
ugh
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11:13a, 3/4/22
Robert Ferguson would toss demas around like a rag
Doll. That dude was a dude for sure.
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11:16a, 3/4/22
He's innocent until proven guilty, but if the incident went down anything like as described by Demond's girlfriend, then Robert Feguson just rose on my list of favorite Aggies. I say that as the father of two daughters.
Look at the habitual masturbator! See how thin, pale and haggard he appears; how his eyes are sunken; how long and cadaverous is his cast of countenance; how irritable he is and how sluggish, mentally and physically; how afraid he is to meet the eye of his fellow, feel his damp and chilling hand, so characteristic of great vital exhaustion.” Dr Henry Guernsey, Plain Talks on Avoided Subjects (1882)
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11:24a, 3/4/22
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11:32a, 3/4/22
Went James Dutton on him…

Props to #6
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In reply to sambaag • 11:33a, 3/4/22
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sambaag said:
He's innocent until proven guilty, but if the incident went down anything like as described by Demond's girlfriend, then Robert Feguson just rose on my list of favorite Aggies. I say that as the father of two daughters.
He deserves a vigorous defense by competent counsel. Getting a fair trial will be difficult in BCS if former NFL players and their wives assault him regularly to try and privately dispense vigilante Justice…

Keep in mind charges are always one person's side and they are investigated very much with prejudice. The rest of the law enforcement process tends to work to the assumption the charges are accurate and the investigation itself often us a trap to get through prosecution faster by getting the accused to say or do things that can he used against him:

And a significant majority of cases get pled out because of ramifications if found guilty. He cannot afford to plead out if he wants to play in the NFL. Must hire counsel and pay for private investigation to, unfortunately, bring to light the character of the accused. We have a confrontational justice system but most of the cards are stacked for the prosecution.

Which is why it's extremely important to not just make throw down comments about "innocent until proven guilty" followed by prejudicial comments. Some day you might have to work through criminal charges against someone you know and figure it out.

My favorite at Texas A&M is the student who presents fake ids…and parents that decide their kids can find out the hard way by staying overnight in custody. So brilliant…
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In reply to sambaag • 11:41a, 3/4/22
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sambaag said:
He's innocent until proven guilty, but if the incident went down anything like as described by Demond's girlfriend, then Robert Feguson just rose on my list of favorite Aggies. I say that as the father of two daughters.


Meanwhile, not in a court of law, I have compiled enough evidence to convict him of being a creep who probably deserves the consequences of his actions.
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11:45a, 3/4/22
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put me on the jury
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11:46a, 3/4/22
I agree with pretty much everything you wrote from the perspective of the law as well as member of the public with no particular insight into the parties' characters. He is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a vigorous defense. Title IX hearings especially are notorious for being kangaroo courts very much stacked against the accused.

That being said, I meant my comment as a hypothetical from the perspective of the father. I would imagine Robert knows his girl. If she is on the crazy side, it would have behooved him to let it all play out. If he knows she's solid, I don't blame him in the least. Knowing my daughters, if they said it went down the way Ferguson's daughter said, and I could get my hands on him, my reaction would be very similar.


Look at the habitual masturbator! See how thin, pale and haggard he appears; how his eyes are sunken; how long and cadaverous is his cast of countenance; how irritable he is and how sluggish, mentally and physically; how afraid he is to meet the eye of his fellow, feel his damp and chilling hand, so characteristic of great vital exhaustion.” Dr Henry Guernsey, Plain Talks on Avoided Subjects (1882)
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In reply to greg.w.h • 11:49a, 3/4/22
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sambaag said:
He's innocent until proven guilty, but if the incident went down anything like as described by Demond's girlfriend, then Robert Feguson just rose on my list of favorite Aggies. I say that as the father of two daughters.
He deserves a vigorous defense by competent counsel. Getting a fair trial will be difficult in BCS if former NFL players and their wives assault him regularly to try and privately dispense vigilante Justice…

Keep in mind charges are always one person's side and they are investigated very much with prejudice. The rest of the law enforcement process tends to work to the assumption the charges are accurate and the investigation itself often us a trap to get through prosecution faster by getting the accused to say or do things that can he used against him:

And a significant majority of cases get pled out because of ramifications if found guilty. He cannot afford to plead out if he wants to play in the NFL. Must hire counsel and pay for private investigation to, unfortunately, bring to light the character of the accused. We have a confrontational justice system but most of the cards are stacked for the prosecution.

Which is why it's extremely important to not just make throw down comments about "innocent until proven guilty" followed by prejudicial comments. Some day you might have to work through criminal charges against someone you know and figure it out.

My favorite at Texas A&M is the student who presents fake ids…and parents that decide their kids can find out the hard way by staying overnight in custody. So brilliant…
When I've done voir dires for jury duty, literally half the people in the audience say they have already prejudged the accused without hearing any evidence. Much of America presumes guilt and requires proof of innocence.
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11:53a, 3/4/22
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Riddle me this, law hawks. What percentage of domestic abusers actually end up in court?
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In reply to rootube • 11:57a, 3/4/22
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rootube said:
Riddle me this, law hawks. What percentage of domestic abusers actually end up in court?
I'm not a law hawk. And the question you ask is unanswerable for a lot of reasons as you are aware. You are a terrible human being if your goal is to add to the burden by increasing prejudice against him. Yes...there are consequences for his actions which he can't even begin to imagine.

And neither can you.
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12:02p, 3/4/22
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Gig 'Em
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12:02p, 3/4/22
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If he is guilty I think an appropriate punishment would be to lock him in a room with Robert Ferguson for 30 minutes.
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In reply to greg.w.h • 12:09p, 3/4/22
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greg.w.h said:
rootube said:
Riddle me this, law hawks. What percentage of domestic abusers actually end up in court?
I'm not a law hawk. And the question you ask is unanswerable for a lot of reasons as you are aware. You are a terrible human being if your goal is to add to the burden by increasing prejudice against him. Yes...there are consequences for his actions which he can't even begin to imagine.

And neither can you.


It's totally answerable. I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of police calls (and probably a high percentage of murders) are related to domestic abuse and nearly 100% of the response is to beg them to try and keep it down. I'm not saying there is a better way to handle it, but if you are going make the argument that our justice system is stacked against the abuser I'm going to call BS because the vast majority of abusers never see a courtroom.
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12:11p, 3/4/22
It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.
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12:13p, 3/4/22
Don't think I'd mess with Robert Ferguson unless a life depended on it.
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12:15p, 3/4/22
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Riddle me this..what happens to a girl if she pushes a guy, bites him and tries to gouge his eyes with her fingernails? Let's say the guy does nothing about it and then tells police. Will she be treated the same as a guy in the court of law? I KNOW for a FACT she won't be treated the same in the court of public opinion.
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In reply to aggieclay • 12:17p, 3/4/22
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It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.
The quicker he's found out and the quicker he's dismissed, all the better.
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12:20p, 3/4/22
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Ferguson was SEC ready he would snap Demas like a twig.
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In reply to Jimbo4win • 12:32p, 3/4/22
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Riddle me this..what happens to a girl if she pushes a guy, bites him and tries to gouge his eyes with her fingernails? Let's say the guy does nothing about it and then tells police. Will she be treated the same as a guy in the court of law? I KNOW for a FACT she won't be treated the same in the court of public opinion.


Or on this forum either.
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12:32p, 3/4/22
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This is bizarre. Her dad is Jason Ferguson and Demas is represented by big time Aggie donor Tony Buzzbee.
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In reply to Jimbo4win • 12:33p, 3/4/22
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Jimbo4win said:
Riddle me this..what happens to a girl if she pushes a guy, bites him and tries to gouge his eyes with her fingernails? Let's say the guy does nothing about it and then tells police. Will she be treated the same as a guy in the court of law? I KNOW for a FACT she won't be treated the same in the court of public opinion.
Women can and do get arrested and charged for domestic violence. This is not a groundbreaking hypothetical you've thrown out there.
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In reply to evestor1 • 12:39p, 3/4/22
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evestor1 said:
Don't think I'd mess with Robert Ferguson unless a life depended on it.
I mean, Batman looked like a pretty brutal opponent last night at the theater, but I'd rather run into him in a dark alley than Robert Ferguson if they're both seeking out vengeance on me
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In reply to BrandoC • 12:40p, 3/4/22
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BrandoC said:
This is bizarre. Her dad is Jason Ferguson and Demas is represented by big time Aggie donor Tony Buzzbee.
hmmmmm
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In reply to greg.w.h • 12:47p, 3/4/22
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Can you elaborate on this?

I'm not following the logic. Rest of your post makes perfect sense.

"My favorite at Texas A&M is the student who presents fake ids…and parents that decide their kids can find out the hard way by staying overnight in custody. So brilliant…"
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In reply to aggieclay • 12:49p, 3/4/22
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aggieclay said:
It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.


Uhhh, Jorrie Adam's on line 1, Lance Pavlas on line 2,
Kelvin Flood on line 3, Anthony Lewis on line 4, Rod Davis on line 5, Lawrence Mitchell on line 6. Switchboard ran out of lines.....
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In reply to 12thMan9 • 1:09p, 3/4/22
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12thMan9 said:
aggieclay said:
It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.


Uhhh, Jorrie Adam's on line 1, Lance Pavlas on line 2,
Kelvin Flood on line 3, Anthony Lewis on line 4, Rod Davis on line 5, Lawrence Mitchell on line 6. Switchboard ran out of lines.....
You are comparing apples to oranges. Just because they didnt live up to your expectations doesnt mean that they are "FU***** stupid punks".
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 1:12p, 3/4/22
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Harry Lime said:
Jimbo4win said:
Riddle me this..what happens to a girl if she pushes a guy, bites him and tries to gouge his eyes with her fingernails? Let's say the guy does nothing about it and then tells police. Will she be treated the same as a guy in the court of law? I KNOW for a FACT she won't be treated the same in the court of public opinion.
Women can and do get arrested and charged for domestic violence. This is not a groundbreaking hypothetical you've thrown out there.


The point being…MANY on this forum have the opinion that women are sweet and innocent. Perhaps they grew up in rural areas. Perhaps times were different when they were dating. My experience and the experience of MANY of my guy friends is that LOTS of women of today get pissed and initiate contact, often violently. Often times alcohol or drugs may be involved and maybe the guy did something stupid(let a girl find out you've been cheating on her and see what she is capable of). When it happens, they have ALL of the rage and they are fighting to win whereas the guy is caught in an incredibly difficult no win situation. She is fighting to win and he is simply not trying to lose so to speak. Now, imagine a girl biting, choking, gouging eyes/mouth, kicking, slapping come at you and see how you respond after she gets two or three solid legit contacts in..girls of today know they can get away with that behavior and often times in a relationship, they do it MULTIPLE times and the if the guy ever makes one wrong move(even simply pushes her away). he is toast!

To bring it back to football, many on here had NOTHING to say when JFF slapped Colleen Crowley in the head for trying to leave his car. Why was that? Could it be because JFF produced whereas Demas hasn't done s***?
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aggieclay said:
WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.

These comments always make me chuckle.
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ATL Aggie said:
12thMan9 said:
aggieclay said:
It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.


Uhhh, Jorrie Adam's on line 1, Lance Pavlas on line 2,
Kelvin Flood on line 3, Anthony Lewis on line 4, Rod Davis on line 5, Lawrence Mitchell on line 6. Switchboard ran out of lines.....
You are comparing apples to oranges. Just because they didnt live up to your expectations doesnt mean that they are "FU***** stupid punks".

It's obviously a reference to the "biggest bust" remark, not the "stupid punk" one.
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aggieclay said:
It's amazing how FU***** stupid some punks can be! Guy had the world at his feet. Great recruit, great ambassador of the university, was developing after missing his senior yr of high school getting better and better, but decided he didn't want all that fortune and fame!! WOW!! Biggest bust in A&M history, by FAR.
Speedy says Hello!
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1:37p, 3/4/22
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I have no idea if Demas is innocent or guilty but I would probably have a response similar to Ferguson's. It would be hard to let it play out in the judicial system.
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