I think it's inevitable for just about everyone to eventually turn into an angry grandpa lashing out as society moves on without them. OP just hasn't come to terms with it yet.

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Seems to me, for any endeavor to be successful the organization needs to have the most qualified people in each position, whether in sports, business or otherwise. Making the priority something else is folly. I'm an old, short guy who can't jump very high. Should I sue the NBA for not making me a starter on a team?
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To be fair, the guy on the left is about to be mired in an un winnable insurgency and will be the cause of massive loss of life and the group on the right is sleeping warm and safely in their own bed tonight. So not sure the dude on the left is the model everyone should strive for.

Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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Will this mean more whites and Asians on the basketball team?
Can dudes tryout for volleyball now? Have the entire men's basketball team play volleyball and we'll be National champions next season.

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the goofy conservatives will whine no matter what.

Eso si, Que es said:

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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No, that's not the substance of these programs, but it seems you're too defensive at the moment to hear to their real message. Unfortunately, there are many unnecessary obstacles that unfairly advantage some individuals or groups while unfairly disadvantaging other individuals or groups. In order to remove these unnecessary obstacles, we need to recognize them. That process can be very uncomfortable sometimes.

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Welcome to the 2020s. This stuff ain't going away. The company I work for is incredibly woke. You're gonna have to either put up with it or crawl into a shell sadly.

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Why must I acquiesce to this incredibly regressive doctrine?



Do you agree with woke teachings that paint large swaths of Americans as racists and oppressors based on their looks? Do you think people are categorizable into neat little boxes? Or do you choose to see people as individuals, with individual thoughts, dreams, skills, and abilities?

I prefer to think we are all privileged to have been born in, or made our way to America. While my road maybe easier than some, it is harder than others. But in 2022, , that path has zero to do with my race. We all have infinite opportunities and to lump people into big boxes is incredibly insulting. These doctrines are ramping up racial tensions, and not by accident.

speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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No, that's not the substance of these programs, but it seems you're too defensive at the moment to hear to their real message. Unfortunately, there are many unnecessary obstacles that unfairly advantage some individuals or groups while unfairly disadvantaging other individuals or groups. In order to remove these unnecessary obstacles, we need to recognize them. That process can be very uncomfortable sometimes.

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Please tell me more about these unnecessary obstacles? Because I didn't have a lot of time to sit around and think about them in the barrio growing up. Between ensuring all my chores were done to avoid dads belt and all my homework was done to avoid mom's chancla, I just really didn't sit around trying to determine who to blame for my lot in life.

Mom and Dad always did their best to ensure we had the necessities and show us the path to a future. It was our path to choose and take. They gave us the morals and principles to make our way through life, but they didn't carry us down the path.

When I look around America, I don't see obstacles (that are externally created), I see some self perpetuated obstacles and excuses, but mostly I just see opportunity.

This is just corporate America 2022 style. I've sat thru multiple E&I trainings. Just nod your head up and down and do not speak under any circumstances. Doesn't hurt anybody. But the guys running these things are getting rich.

You can thank Blackrock. Being the world's largest asset manager comes with some serious stroke. It really is the American way.

This whole diverse crap is staight-outta-Austin.

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I think it's inevitable for just about everyone to eventually turn into an angry grandpa lashing out as society moves on without them. OP just hasn't come to terms with it yet.

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I guess they are enlightened like you then?

So much wrong with our direction. When you get to the point that people are shamed for just being, that is a disgrace. Forget being racist, now we shame people for just existing. Privilege. No wonder we have highest levels of mental illness and depression this country has ever seen. How do we expect our children to mentally handle this stuff. I guess they are showing us they are not able to. They need medications to get through the day and safe rooms on campuses.
And then they see the leader of the free world (Biden) being unashamedly racist and say what gives? I guess I understand why our youth are struggling so much. we are long over due for a course correction.

It's all for show, smoke and mirrors. The more this is mandated and shoved down the throats of folks, the less effective it is. It always has amazed me that those in charge don't see that.

Eso si, Que es said:

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speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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No, that's not the substance of these programs, but it seems you're too defensive at the moment to hear to their real message. Unfortunately, there are many unnecessary obstacles that unfairly advantage some individuals or groups while unfairly disadvantaging other individuals or groups. In order to remove these unnecessary obstacles, we need to recognize them. That process can be very uncomfortable sometimes.

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Please tell me more about these unnecessary obstacles? Because I didn't have a lot of time to sit around and think about them in the barrio growing up. Between ensuring all my chores were done to avoid dads belt and all my homework was done to avoid mom's chancla, I just really didn't sit around trying to determine who to blame for my lot in life.

Mom and Dad always did their best to ensure we had the necessities and show us the path to a future. It was our path to choose and take. They gave us the morals and principles to make our way through life, but they didn't carry us down the path.

When I look around America, I don't see obstacles (that are externally created), I see some self perpetuated obstacles and excuses, but mostly I just see opportunity.

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Sure, here's an easy one: Have a "black sounding" name? You're less likely to get a job interview. I hope you're not going to assert that a name is a self perpetuated obstacle and excuse. Rather, it's a sign of bias. It's great that you see opportunity. Not everyone has the same access to the opportunities you see.

Cool. And if you have a name like Cooper Kupp and you play WR, DB or RB you are a lot less likely to get a scholarship offer.

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I think it's inevitable for just about everyone to eventually turn into an angry grandpa lashing out as society moves on without them. OP just hasn't come to terms with it yet.

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Oh what progress we have seen

It's 2022, time to move on from same tired baseless claims. If you can write your name, you get an interview

Eso si, Que es said:

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It's 2022, time to move on from same tired baseless claims. If you can write your name, you get an interview

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This is simply not true across the board. Taking your example here as just one point- there are many factors that can absolutly reduce someone's ability to get an interview or a job opoprunity. Some of those factors are not the product of the individual's choices.

Assuming that everyone gets an equal and fair shot is percisely part of the issue these trainings are trying to make peopel aware of. Espeicaly for coaches who may not be aware of, or even believe, the very real struggles some of thier players/recruits are facing. How is gaining this understanding anything but an assest to the program and recruiting?

speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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No, that's not the substance of these programs, but it seems you're too defensive at the moment to hear to their real message. Unfortunately, there are many unnecessary obstacles that unfairly advantage some individuals or groups while unfairly disadvantaging other individuals or groups. In order to remove these unnecessary obstacles, we need to recognize them. That process can be very uncomfortable sometimes.

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Please tell me more about these unnecessary obstacles? Because I didn't have a lot of time to sit around and think about them in the barrio growing up. Between ensuring all my chores were done to avoid dads belt and all my homework was done to avoid mom's chancla, I just really didn't sit around trying to determine who to blame for my lot in life.

Mom and Dad always did their best to ensure we had the necessities and show us the path to a future. It was our path to choose and take. They gave us the morals and principles to make our way through life, but they didn't carry us down the path.

When I look around America, I don't see obstacles (that are externally created), I see some self perpetuated obstacles and excuses, but mostly I just see opportunity.

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Sure, here's an easy one: Have a "black sounding" name? You're less likely to get a job interview. I hope you're not going to assert that a name is a self perpetuated obstacle and excuse. Rather, it's a sign of bias. It's great that you see opportunity. Not everyone has the same access to the opportunities you see.

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You hear about this on CNN?

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speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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speck said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Maybe if you read the actual substance of the material you will understand that it is the opposite of what you are advocating. I do love my neighbors, of all races, creeds, colors and religions.

However, the substance of these programs are that people are only defined by their immutable characteristics and that our country is systemically racists and people of color will never get an equitable return without the help of non people of color. This type of curriculum is racist at heart and teaches people that they are good or bad, victim or victimizer based solely on their skin color.

Why do you hate all white people so much and support this divisive and backwards thinking?

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No, that's not the substance of these programs, but it seems you're too defensive at the moment to hear to their real message. Unfortunately, there are many unnecessary obstacles that unfairly advantage some individuals or groups while unfairly disadvantaging other individuals or groups. In order to remove these unnecessary obstacles, we need to recognize them. That process can be very uncomfortable sometimes.

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Please tell me more about these unnecessary obstacles? Because I didn't have a lot of time to sit around and think about them in the barrio growing up. Between ensuring all my chores were done to avoid dads belt and all my homework was done to avoid mom's chancla, I just really didn't sit around trying to determine who to blame for my lot in life.

Mom and Dad always did their best to ensure we had the necessities and show us the path to a future. It was our path to choose and take. They gave us the morals and principles to make our way through life, but they didn't carry us down the path.

When I look around America, I don't see obstacles (that are externally created), I see some self perpetuated obstacles and excuses, but mostly I just see opportunity.

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Sure, here's an easy one: Have a "black sounding" name? You're less likely to get a job interview. I hope you're not going to assert that a name is a self perpetuated obstacle and excuse. Rather, it's a sign of bias. It's great that you see opportunity. Not everyone has the same access to the opportunities you see.

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You hear about this on CNN?

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No. But did Fox tell you I did?

Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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I definitely need to sign up for a class to learn to love my neighbor. Especially ones that charge me to explain to me how people are different.

And I CERTAINLY wouldnt want to be the one who REFUSED to avail myself of such an opportunity. There migh be some who havent taken the enlightenment class who would chastize me for being different.
Oh, the irony.

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Seems to me, for any endeavor to be successful the organization needs to have the most qualified people in each position, whether in sports, business or otherwise. Making the priority something else is folly. I'm an old, short guy who can't jump very high. Should I sue the NBA for not making me a starter on a team?
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To be fair, the guy on the left is about to be mired in an un winnable insurgency and will be the cause of massive loss of life and the group on the right is sleeping warm and safely in their own bed tonight. So not sure the dude on the left is the model everyone should strive for.

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Theyre sleeping warm because there is a country with badass nuclear weapons who their mommys and daddys made an agreement with to protect them if the bad man picks a fight.

Unfortunately, Ukraine hasnt been able to get the same deal.

This thread always belonged on F16, but the second page clearly has nothing to do with A&M football.

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I have donated money to both Texas and Texas A&M for over two decades and have refused to donate any of my money to the athletic programs of either school. Our money is going to academics and not athletics. I respect others' decisions but I do encourage people that I know to donate more to the school than to athletics.

It's a bunch of video modules like defensive driving. It will give the coaches' wives something to do while their husbands are building champions.

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This thread always belonged on F16, but the second page clearly has nothing to do with A&M football.

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I agree. I tried to bring it back to how it impacts recruiting or our athletics program a couple times, because I actually think there is an interesting conversation to be had there. But people just want to vent their faux outrage or parrot their favorite news outlet.

Time to can this whole thread.

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Eso si, Que es said:

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It's 2022, time to move on from same tired baseless claims. If you can write your name, you get an interview

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This is simply not true across the board. Taking your example here as just one point- there are many factors that can absolutly reduce someone's ability to get an interview or a job opoprunity. Some of those factors are not the product of the individual's choices.

Assuming that everyone gets an equal and fair shot is percisely part of the issue these trainings are trying to make peopel aware of. Espeicaly for coaches who may not be aware of, or even believe, the very real struggles some of thier players/recruits are facing. How is gaining this understanding anything but an assest to the program and recruiting?

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I guarantee you my name doesn't incite thoughts of suburban whiteness, but my resume crushes it.

These coaches have seen it all. They have been in the business for decades and know exactly where the kids come from and how they grow up. The diffference between the decent coaches and the great coaches is the great ones know how to instill accountability. Your individual and team results aren't dependent on some external phantom inputs. Your results are a direct reflection of your personal effort and accountability. Great coaches get players to understand that blaming others is a cop out and looking internally is the only way to find the answers and path to greatness.

To keep this conversation topical, these types of trainings try so hard to convince people that there are victims and victimizers, instead of teaching people that they are the biggest factor in personal success. If society would instill personal accountability, then we would be better off. If the football coaches believe that nothing players do (or don't do) is their fault/responsibility then players won't try to improve.

Blaming others is a lazy way to approach life, and lazy doesn't build champions.

Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Things like roi and crt have nothing in common with anything Jesus said.

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rootube said:

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Seems to me, for any endeavor to be successful the organization needs to have the most qualified people in each position, whether in sports, business or otherwise. Making the priority something else is folly. I'm an old, short guy who can't jump very high. Should I sue the NBA for not making me a starter on a team?
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To be fair, the guy on the left is about to be mired in an un winnable insurgency and will be the cause of massive loss of life and the group on the right is sleeping warm and safely in their own bed tonight. So not sure the dude on the left is the model everyone should strive for.

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Theyre sleeping warm because there is a country with badass nuclear weapons who their mommys and daddys made an agreement with to protect them if the bad man picks a fight.

Unfortunately, Ukraine hasnt been able to get the same deal.

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Half the countries on the right have nuclear weapon's themselves. They also have an infinitely larger stake in the outcome of the events in Ukraine.

It's always so telling what gets F16 riled up.

Hoping it helps us consistently beat the Mississippi schools and Saban. Come on, Jimbo.

It's not about equality it's simply social Marxism.

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Cavazos said:

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I think OP is Brother Jed's account on TexAgs.

The way I see it is simple: Jesus said to love your neighbors. That includes people of all colors, race, backgrounds, nationality, and sexual identities. Even if I don't necessarily understand where they are coming from.

OP, this is a great chance for you to learn about people you think are scary. Sign up for the classes and you might find out they aren't so bad.

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Things like roi and crt have nothing in common with anything Jesus said.

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Very true. Most Christians haven't researched enough to know Jesus has an answer that is much different than crt (hint it is not based in shame and accusation). Crt sounds right on a headline or the first few paragraphs of an article but please dig deeper if you follow Jesus. Voddie Bauchman has some good videos on YouTube that illustrate why the confusion.

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You hear about this on CNN?

Impossible. Nobody watches CNN.

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It's always so telling what gets F16 riled up.

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Glad you are above such trivial things