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Great play or poor sportsmanship?

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ClearlyJustSomeAg
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spherical said:

I'm surprised at how many can't see the difference between "faking left and juking right" and PRETENDING TO QUIT


I'm not surprised, half the people in this thread are mad they don't get to see regular TBIs anymore for their entertainment.
KayJayKay
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I have watched this 20 times from all angles and I don't see what the problem is. The QB was gonna slide, thought about sliding, and almost did start to slide. Then he sees 45 quit on the play and the qb keeps going. Smart play by him. You can't start to slide and then change your mind, gravity takes over and once your horizontal it's over. He changed his mind right before he got to that point.
GigEmTx
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You guys keep using the word "slide". I do not think it means what you think it means.

To initiate a slide assumes that the QB actually slides. This QB didn't slide, so no slide. Sliding assumes one drops while running from a vertical to a horizontal position. That clearly didn't happen.

Even when a QB slides, he can get hit, just not in the head or neck area. What's so hard to understand if you're a defender? Aim for the lower body - that's what the rules say to do anyway.
stestro
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It's a pansy move, but he's smart to take advantage of the system. It needs to change.
wangus12
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They just need to get rid of.sliding in general. If the QB wants to run the football, they can take the consequences that come with it
AggieArchitect04
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Bush league move.

Guy acts like billy badass but he's a *****.

And that's why he plays at Pitt.

That's why no one will remember his name.
MaroonStain
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At least Aggies aren't playing in Houston bowl. Amirite?
zephyr88
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HoustonAg2106 said:

zephyr88 said:

Was he trying to slide and changes his mind? Would have to ask him if he planned it all along, looked like he changed his mind at the last second though

Was it an effective shudder step? Yes

Was it poor sportsmanship - I don't think so. No, it is within the rules.

Don't hate the player, hate the game... the rule. Yup

The play wasn't flagged, so it must not have been interpreted by the officials as a violation. It is not currently against the rules so there was no penalty the refs could call

That being said, it will probably be a topic of discussion in the off-season. Yup

#45 clearly thought the QB had initiated a slide. Yup

soooo, what you're saying is "I agree".
ned911
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This is easy. The second time he starts to slide and the D pummels him, no flag. Bet he doesn't "fake" slide again
FTA Class of 1988
Get Off My Lawn
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tandy miller said:

VOLvo said:

Ulrich said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Ulrich said:

VOLvo said:

A player is down, not when they stumble and drag their foot or appear to be going down, they're down when the knee, butt, elbow, etc hit the ground.

On a normal play, not on a slide. The rule is that the player is down when he begins a feet first slide, not on contact with the ground. This misunderstanding is why fans are often unhappy with the spot on slides.
He is spotted down where he began the slide, but the refs never blow the whistle until he is actually sliding on the ground (butt down).

That's not how the rule is written. Like you said, officials haven't had to deal with this before so it's understandable why they made the mistake, but it was still a mistake.



I can agree the officials need to address the rule for clarity, but the slide issue itself may need to come with a hand raise, like a fair catch, to avoid penalty. No fair catch signal, you get leveled legally. No slide hand wave, you're a runner.


I like this
I want to like this, but the mechanics wouldn't work great. I think the two ways to 'fix' this without scrapping the protection rule are:
1. Commit to fast whistles at the slightest hint of a slide
2. Keep everything legal until the player is clearly down. Same rules as elsewhere. If you want to avoid taking a hit - you'd better drop to the deck early & be down before the defender gets there. Ya know - football rules.
Charlie Murphy
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As an FYI, that play was so egregious that it has been banned during the season.
 
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