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Great play or poor sportsmanship?

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9:47p, 12/4/21
....or both....
While not against the rules, IMO this tilts towards the poor sportsmanship. The defense has to let up when they see you starting to go into a slide, so not really an even playing field at that point.



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9:50p, 12/4/21
Yeah, that's kind of BS. Once he initiated that slide, he should have been called down.
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9:52p, 12/4/21
They will have to address this. It's a crap move but the current rules encourage it
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9:53p, 12/4/21
Poor sportsmanship if you are an WF fan.
Great play if you are a Pitt fan.
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S.A. Aggie
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9:54p, 12/4/21
Until they make a rule about it then it's legal. Kinda like faking a splice to stop the clock and throwing it to the end zone. If it would have won the game against lsu would you have run it? Like Kiffen said about faking injuries " I'm gone do it until I'm called for it" (paraphrased).
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9:55p, 12/4/21
That was barely even a slide…. He dragged his foot.

I don't really see an issue.
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9:56p, 12/4/21
Taking advantage of ridiculous protection rules. No problem with it because those rules shouldn't exist. Once the QB takes off he should be considered and runner and free game, no sliding.
They take advantage of the receiver protections too, throwing risky passes that used to get their wideouts lit up.
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In reply to BuddysBud • 9:56p, 12/4/21
BuddysBud said:
Poor sportsmanship if you are an Iowa fan.
Great play if you are a Michigan fan.


Yeah, those Michigan Panthers were really excited.
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Get Off My Lawn
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In reply to Madmarttigan • 9:57p, 12/4/21
He dropped his hips enough that the defensive players down field relaxed - which gave him that daylight to make the second half of that play.

If you enjoy special protection, it's only fair to apply extra scrutiny. Refs should've called the play dead.
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10:00p, 12/4/21
It's brilliant. Love it! Do whatever it takes to score…
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10:02p, 12/4/21
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
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10:02p, 12/4/21
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10:04p, 12/4/21
There's no way to stop that from happening
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In reply to HoustonAg2106 • 10:07p, 12/4/21
HoustonAg2106 said:
There's no way to stop that from happening
Easy, you either change the rule to mark them down wherever he started the slide, or you make it a penalty to do this.
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In reply to TaggiesT • 10:08p, 12/4/21
TaggiesT said:
Taking advantage of ridiculous protection rules. No problem with it because those rules shouldn't exist. Once the QB takes off he should be considered and runner and free game, no sliding.
They take advantage of the receiver protections too, throwing risky passes that used to get their wideouts lit up.


Anyone not just the QB can slide at anytime.
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In reply to HoustonAg2106 • 10:09p, 12/4/21
HoustonAg2106 said:
There's no way to stop that from happening
Send an enforcer in the game to knockout the QB the next time he slides[/old school hockey rules]
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10:14p, 12/4/21
Aaron Rodgers sometimes does this.

They ain't changing the rules that protect QBs at any level
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In reply to BuddysBud • 10:24p, 12/4/21
BuddysBud said:
Poor sportsmanship if you are an Iowa fan.
Great play if you are a Michigan fan.

The Denver broncos probably didn't like it much, but Red Army and the Canucks are all for it.
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In reply to SunrayAg • 10:26p, 12/4/21
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.
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In reply to Iowaggie • 10:29p, 12/4/21
Iowaggie said:
Aaron Rodgers sometimes does this.

They ain't changing the rules that protect QBs at any level


It doesn't protect QB's if defenders start hitting them just in case they aren't faking the slide.
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In reply to Iowaggie • 10:30p, 12/4/21
Iowaggie said:
Aaron Rodgers sometimes does this.

They ain't changing the rules that protect QBs at any level


Typically they spot the ball where the QB initiates the slide. Picket should have been marked down then. No rule change needed.
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10:31p, 12/4/21
I remember Johnny doing this for extra yards on the sidelines a couple of times when he should have been hit out. Rad but could be a problem.
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In reply to GigEmTx • 10:31p, 12/4/21
GigEmTx said:
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.


Don't make it a penalty if a defender makes contact with him, and it'll take care of itself.
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10:32p, 12/4/21
Great move. I see nothing wrong with it. Wasn't even close to a slide.
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SunrayAg
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In reply to GigEmTx • 10:32p, 12/4/21
GigEmTx said:
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.


Bull. You don't get a 15 yard penalty for hitting a player who juked. The fake slide is abusing the rule meant to protect a quarterback who is giving himself up. Two players who could have hammered him stopped because he started sliding.
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10:34p, 12/4/21
This is why "special rules", like sliding, suck.


He took advantage of a safety rule. It's legal, and it's bullsh*t.
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10:34p, 12/4/21
Until his knee is down, hit him as hard as you can.

Just don't lead with your helmet on to his helmet. Simple.
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In reply to SunrayAg • 10:37p, 12/4/21
SunrayAg said:
GigEmTx said:
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.


Bull. You don't get a 15 yard penalty for hitting a player who juked. The fake slide is abusing the rule meant to protect a quarterback who is giving himself up. Two players who could have hammered him stopped because he started sliding.
He slowed down, he didn't "start sliding."
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In reply to Sponge • 10:39p, 12/4/21
Sponge said:
Until his knee is down, hit him as hard as you can.

Just don't lead with your helmet on to his helmet. Simple.

Not simple. Because right now if a defender makes contact with QB while said QB is "giving himself up" or is in the "process of sliding", they throw the F'n flag and use player safety as their excuse.
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In reply to HoustonAg2106 • 10:43p, 12/4/21
HoustonAg2106 said:
SunrayAg said:
GigEmTx said:
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.


Bull. You don't get a 15 yard penalty for hitting a player who juked. The fake slide is abusing the rule meant to protect a quarterback who is giving himself up. Two players who could have hammered him stopped because he started sliding.
He slowed down, he didn't "start sliding."
He initiated the act of a slide. In today's pussified game, that makes you untouchable.

It's a brilliant move and a D bag move to take advantage of the rules at the same time
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In reply to dixichkn • 10:46p, 12/4/21
dixichkn said:
HoustonAg2106 said:
SunrayAg said:
GigEmTx said:
SunrayAg said:
Two defensive players pulled up to avoid hitting a sliding player. That is what freed him up for the td. Garbage move. Should have been down where he faked the slide.
Nothing different than a juke, though. He didn't slide, no matter how many times you look at it.


Bull. You don't get a 15 yard penalty for hitting a player who juked. The fake slide is abusing the rule meant to protect a quarterback who is giving himself up. Two players who could have hammered him stopped because he started sliding.
He slowed down, he didn't "start sliding."
He initiated the act of a slide. In today's pussified game, that makes you untouchable.

It's a brilliant move and a D bag move to take advantage of the rules at the same time
My point is there is no way to stop what he did. You can't call him down just because he slowed down and looked like he might slide...he didn't slide so the play keeps going.
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11:27p, 12/4/21
I mean.

He never actually started going down and it was a twitch move motion, so... it wasn't a slide. As a defender you can't knock a slider senseless but you can sure jump over them. I don't see the ptoblem.
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In reply to Meximan • 8:09a, 12/5/21
Meximan said:
I mean.

He never actually started going down and it was a twitch move motion, so... it wasn't a slide. As a defender you can't knock a slider senseless but you can sure jump over them. I don't see the ptoblem.
It was obvious enough what he was doing that the announcers picked up on it right away.
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8:24a, 12/5/21
He didn't do much more than drag one foot. Y'all are making a much bigger deal out of this than it is. Like others said, don't see this as anything more than juke or a pump fake.
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8:33a, 12/5/21
Should have blown play dead. You can even see defender let up, once that happens defender is toast
Nothing looks more foolish than tradition to those who have none.
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