Is Scott Woodward the best AD in the country?
His last two hires have been massive!!
His last two hires have been massive!!
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Last: 4 yr ago by greg.w.h
Yes he is Mrs. Woodward.
Let's wait until we have some accomplishment before we start talking about how ingenious woodward is.
Because otherwise all you have stated OP, is that he is capable of spending other people's money.
Because otherwise all you have stated OP, is that he is capable of spending other people's money.
Speaking strictly about football hires, his last three have been huge.
He struck out on his first two choices (Riley and Jimbo) and then had to massively overpay for bad fit.
Is football the only measuring stick?
gotsand said:
Is football the only measuring stick?
Not for Mrs Woodward.
He is a putz....not a fan, but known for splash hires. Scariest thing to me is that Jimbo is friends w him in general (as he is an untrustworthy person....why he fits at LSU so well).
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Sponge said:gotsand said:
Is football the only measuring stick?
Not for Mrs Woodward.
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I really don't see this Kelly hire as massive. The guy had access to nationwide recruiting and a soft where the ACC & B1G would throw all their pillows at him every year, and he didn't have to risk getting KO'd from the playoffs in CCGs except once. That gave him the opportunity to make the playoffs EVERY year, yet he never won a playoff game, heck he never came close to winning one. In fact, one of the greatest traditions alive in college football of the last decade has been watching him get humiliated in the playoff, every time he got in.
His recruiting isn't going to be drastically better at LSU but now he's going to have to play a considerably more difficult schedule. I suppose he will likely have better facilities at LSU and recruiting should be a bit easier because of how much more local it is.
That's why I'm not impressed with Kelly as a coach. And I'm not impressed with Woodward because Kelly was severely underpaid at ND making a few million so he wasn't hard to get. Dabo or an NFL coach would've been a splash hire.
His recruiting isn't going to be drastically better at LSU but now he's going to have to play a considerably more difficult schedule. I suppose he will likely have better facilities at LSU and recruiting should be a bit easier because of how much more local it is.
That's why I'm not impressed with Kelly as a coach. And I'm not impressed with Woodward because Kelly was severely underpaid at ND making a few million so he wasn't hard to get. Dabo or an NFL coach would've been a splash hire.
It's a very strange thing - the role of an AD in D1 football.
I mean, if you're a booster involved with the hiring of a "high powered" AD - the reality is that you're hiring someone who's aim is to convince you and your buddies to shell out absurd amounts of money to hire a coach.
And then the AD gets credit for getting YOU to spend YOUR money after YOU hired him.
It's just further proof that we live in a really weird world.
I mean, if you're a booster involved with the hiring of a "high powered" AD - the reality is that you're hiring someone who's aim is to convince you and your buddies to shell out absurd amounts of money to hire a coach.
And then the AD gets credit for getting YOU to spend YOUR money after YOU hired him.
It's just further proof that we live in a really weird world.
No, or maybe yes if getting your 3rd+ option is the measuring stick
90ags said:
He is a putz....not a fan, but known for splash hires. Scariest thing to me is that Jimbo is friends w him in general (as he is an untrustworthy person....why he fits at LSU so well).
Pretty sure I would be friends with a dude who got me 75 million guaranteed.
Dude went out an moneywhipped a 60 year old head coach so he didn't get embarrassed after the first five on his list fell through.
Woodward is overrated.
Woodward is overrated.
AD's remind me of GM's at car dealerships. When you are set to buy, they are your best friend. After the sale, poof, "who are you?".
The rate for the next LSU coach was set long before Kelly was hired. A high profile coach is going to get a long term contract worth 9-10 million / year. Woodward likes to make high profile hires.Salute The Marines said:
He struck out on his first two choices (Riley and Jimbo) and then had to massively overpay for bad fit.
Ian Neff said:
It's a very strange thing - the role of an AD in D1 football.
I mean, if you're a booster involved with the hiring of a "high powered" AD - the reality is that you're hiring someone who's aim is to convince you and your buddies to shell out absurd amounts of money to hire a coach.
And then the AD gets credit for getting YOU to spend YOUR money after YOU hired him.
It's just further proof that we live in a really weird world.
Ever since the first caveman traded a shiny rock for a nice stick its been all downhill
rbcs_2 said:The rate for the next LSU coach was set long before Kelly was hired. A high profile coach is going to get a long term contract worth 9-10 million / year. Woodward likes to make high profile hires.Salute The Marines said:
He struck out on his first two choices (Riley and Jimbo) and then had to massively overpay for bad fit.
Of course but a lot of dollars is more palatable when you get what you are paying for. Woodward tried to by a Ferrari and Lambo. He wound up paying the same money for a Corvette.
Not sure what you're seeing in Riley's resume that leads you to think he's better than Kelly.
Pretty sure I could match his efforts. How hard is it to get direction from my boss/bosses, to go spend any amount of money to get the best coach you can find?CheersforBeers said:
Is Scott Woodward the best AD in the country?
His last two hires have been massive!!
Go to Jimmy Sexton and tell him you have no limit on what you can spend.
Ole Jimmy (the former Astros minor leaguer, who got to suit up with the big club in a couple of Septembers) and he can find what you are looking for, plus hype it to the Feldman's of the sports media world and you are now considered an AD genius.
Don't forget Woodward brokered the Ed Ogre-on contract extension last year.
Ed will be forever grateful to the LSU rubes for the unconditional $17 million buyout which will finance his full time passion of philandering.
Ed will be forever grateful to the LSU rubes for the unconditional $17 million buyout which will finance his full time passion of philandering.
Salute The Marines said:
He struck out on his first two choices (Riley and Jimbo) and then had to massively overpay for bad fit.
I don't think you'll ever know for sure who choice one was, but I think the fact that Brian Kelly's contract is the same as Jimbo's, as far as guaranteed money, tells you he wasn't the first choice. I would bet Jimbo was offered 100-110 million guaranteed.
He struck out on Fisher, Riley, and probably Dabo and Stoops, at least. He was able to money whip a coach who doubled his pay.
Baylor AD seems to be doing quite well.
He's pretty good at spending other people's money. I guess that's something.
If he would've pulled Urban back into college, I would have been impressed.
If he would've pulled Urban back into college, I would have been impressed.
Joe Schillaci 48 said:Pretty sure I could match his efforts. How hard is it to get direction from my boss/bosses, to go spend any amount of money to get the best coach you can find?CheersforBeers said:
Is Scott Woodward the best AD in the country?
His last two hires have been massive!!
Go to Jimmy Sexton and tell him you have no limit on what you can spend.
Ole Jimmy (the former Astros minor leaguer, who got to suit up with the big club in a couple of Septembers) and he can find what you are looking for, plus hype it to the Feldman's of the sports media world and you are now considered an AD genius.
Different Jimmy.
Ronnie '88
ny_aggie said:
Baylor AD seems to be doing quite well.
At all sports yes, football was probably an outlier this year with a senior laden team. They have massive issues moving forward as all Big 12 teams will.
Joe Schillaci 48 said:Pretty sure I could match his efforts. How hard is it to get direction from my boss/bosses, to go spend any amount of money to get the best coach you can find?CheersforBeers said:
Is Scott Woodward the best AD in the country?
His last two hires have been massive!!
Go to Jimmy Sexton and tell him you have no limit on what you can spend.
Ole Jimmy (the former Astros minor leaguer, who got to suit up with the big club in a couple of Septembers) and he can find what you are looking for…
…and get all of his worthwhile coaches raises in the process, even ones not interested.
ny_aggie said:
Baylor AD seems to be doing quite well.
I think Dave didn't want to go back there personally. Having been there, he probably figured it wasn't worth the money. To me, that's a telling sign.
I'd rather have a Corvette than a Lincoln...get it?Salute The Marines said:rbcs_2 said:The rate for the next LSU coach was set long before Kelly was hired. A high profile coach is going to get a long term contract worth 9-10 million / year. Woodward likes to make high profile hires.Salute The Marines said:
He struck out on his first two choices (Riley and Jimbo) and then had to massively overpay for bad fit.
Of course but a lot of dollars is more palatable when you get what you are paying for. Woodward tried to by a Ferrari and Lambo. He wound up paying the same money for a Corvette.
The LSU hfc hire is the only one that matters imo at this point. I think he did well with the Buzz hire but that's ancient history now.
People won't be able to reasonably assess the Kelly hire for at least 2-3 yrs imo. I think there are reasons to think it will work out fine and reasons to think it won't. I think he's a good hfc. I think their expectations are exceedingly high .
People won't be able to reasonably assess the Kelly hire for at least 2-3 yrs imo. I think there are reasons to think it will work out fine and reasons to think it won't. I think he's a good hfc. I think their expectations are exceedingly high .
nu awlins ag said:ny_aggie said:
Baylor AD seems to be doing quite well.
I think Dave didn't want to go back there personally. Having been there, he probably figured it wasn't worth the money. To me, that's a telling sign.
To back there he would have to be offered. I don't think he was anywhere near the top of LSU's list.
Salute The Marines said:nu awlins ag said:ny_aggie said:
Baylor AD seems to be doing quite well.
I think Dave didn't want to go back there personally. Having been there, he probably figured it wasn't worth the money. To me, that's a telling sign.
To back there he would have to be offered. I don't think he was anywhere near the top of LSU's list.
I bet he was higher than Kelly.
The self-righteousness on this board is incredible. "I could hire better than Woodward." "My play calling is better that Jimbo Fisher." We have a culture problem as bad as tu!
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