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James Bonham and why the trophy is hardly seen

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"On March 3, 1836, during the siege of the Alamo, Bonham, a childhood friend of Col. Travis, braved intense fire from enemy troops to return to the Alamo and deliver the message that reinforcements would not make it in time. Despite urging from General Houston to remain, Bonham explained he was a 'man of his word' and compelled to return to his comrades at the Alamo. Three days after his return, the Alamo fell and Bonham fell at his post along with the rest of the defenders in the name of Liberty and Freedom."



Trophy hidden at the Alamo (story SA Express)

Hidden at the Alamo: Why trophy meant for winner of Texas A&M-South Carolina is hardly ever seen

June 11, 2019Updated: June 11, 2019 6:54 p.m.

The Alamo Collection holds many artifacts, but only two are related to sports: a pair of ice skates from the 1850s and the Bonham Trophy.

The trophy, awarded to the winner of the annual Texas A&M-South Carolina football game, has maintained a low profile since its inception in 2014.

"I think part of it is that it hasn't really been promoted," said Bruce Winders, Alamo curator and resident historian. "It reposes (at the Alamo), but it's not our task to actually promote it. We care for it. It just needs some better promotion.

"It needs people to know it exists."

In fact, it hardly ever leaves the archive room, and it never has made a public appearance, not even at any of the five football games between the Aggies and Gamecocks.

Before last season's meeting in Columbia, S.C., reporters asked players and coaches from each school what they knew about the trophy. Nobody seemed to know anything.

"I had no clue there was a trophy," Otaro Alaka, a linebacker with A&M from 2014 to 2018, told the Dallas Morning News before last season's game. "There's a trophy for who wins? There is no trophy for who wins. I've never seen a trophy."

But it really does exist.

You just have to know where to look.

The trophy has been on display at the Alamo complex before but mainly is kept in the archives vault.
"The trophy is on the cusp of stardom," Winders said. "People are beginning to take an interest in it, but it isn't something people come here and go, 'Let us see the trophy.' It's still in development. … We treat it like an artifact. It gets cared for and loved."

Since the trophy is kept with the Alamo Collection, it is overseen by the General Land Office, which manages the entire complex.

The trophy originally was intended to be exchanged at each game, but not by the players, said General Land Office communications director Karina Erickson. Instead, it was supposed to be traded between the governors of Texas and South Carolina.

The trophy features a bronze statue of James Bonham on horseback. It was commissioned by then-Texas and South Carolina governors Rick Perry and Nikki Haley in summer 2014.

Bonham was chosen to embody the trophy since he is a South Carolina native and graduate who died at the Alamo. Perry and Haley asked Cleburne-based sculptor Jeff Gottfried to create the trophy.

The trophy has made trips to the governor's office in Austin "at least once or twice," Winders noted, including a visit last October during the week of the A&M-South Carolina game.

But a true public presentation could be on the horizon. The Aggies and Gamecocks square off in College Station this season on Nov. 16 at Kyle Field.

Erickson said the General Land Office and Land Commissioner George P. Bush are planning to reach out to A&M officials to coordinate an exchange or presentation of the Bonham Trophy.
Until then, Winders plan to keep watching over the bronze trophy in San Antonio.

"It could turn into something high-profile if it gets more coverage and more people know about it," Winders said. "If it takes hold, I could see it being out on the field and exchanged."

"I think it's waiting for its moment."
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Bruce Winders is no longer curator, he retired earlier this year.
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It's a pretty cool design for a trophy, but when it isn't seen/exchanged on the field it's going to be way more difficult to get it to take hold.
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It would get more coverage if SC would stop sucking and win a few games.
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It's actually a very nice statue. If we could get a life sized version of this to replace the yell leader with no lips on campus that would be great.


For reference.


Meximan
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Let's hope it doesn't get photo opportunities for another 10 years
Divining Rod
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That really is a cool trophy, and I'm all in favor of promoting anything that recognizes our true heritage.

There's a reason it hasn't left its home in Texas.
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I think they should at least add a plaque on the side that has the score of the game for each year. Somebody should do SOMETHING with the trophy, instead of just letting it sit in the Alamo "basement". Someone should go retrieve it for this week and have it on display at Bright, show it on SEC network/nation. Maybe TexAgs could even borrow it for an hour on the morning show. It'd be nice to hear a story about Bonham somewhere.

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UntoldSpirit said:

I think they should at least add a plaque on the side that has the score of the game for each year. Somebody should do SOMETHING with the trophy, instead of just letting it sit in the Alamo "basement". Someone should go retrieve it for this week and have it on display at Bright, show it on SEC network/nation. Maybe TexAgs could even borrow it for an hour on the morning show. It'd be nice to hear a story about Bonham somewhere.


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Get outta here with that bad juju! If the trophy shows up and we lose, we'd have to give it to them! Leave it hidden at the Alamo.
Divining Rod
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I hope it's behind glass or something-- I wouldn't want Pee Wee Herman's bike to scratch it accidentally.
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They're not worthy of being our permanent rival. Its a free win annually but we get no credit for it. If we see ourselves as a playoff contender our permanent rival needs to be Georgia, Florida, or Tennessee. If we can't have that then we should be strongly against protected rivalries.

Its about to end anyway in a 16 team conference so enjoy the freebie this year.
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That's such a nice sculpture it shouldn't be hidden away. It would be cool if the 2 governors could be at the game each year to do an exchange if needed and promote each state and the legendary Bonham.
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I approve.
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Aggieland!" -Davy Crockett
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It will never be done because Bonham was a slave owner.
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I think everyone kind of hates the quote on the plaque at the bottom of the trophy:

"We pouring concrete today, Col. Travis?"
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Sounds like a secret trophy.
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Ag Tag said:

Sounds like a secret trophy.


Not only is it secret, but to access the trophy you have to descend to the basement of the Alamo and defeat the final boss who is an Amish fellow with sweet punching gloves.
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rootube said:

Ag Tag said:

Sounds like a secret trophy.


Not only is it secret, but to access the trophy you have to descend to the basement of the Alamo and defeat the final boss who is an Amish fellow with sweet punching gloves.
LOL, it's very hard to find the entrance to the Alamo basement.
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UntoldSpirit said:

I think they should at least add a plaque on the side that has the score of the game for each year. Somebody should do SOMETHING with the trophy, instead of just letting it sit in the Alamo "basement". Someone should go retrieve it for this week and have it on display at Bright, show it on SEC network/nation. Maybe TexAgs could even borrow it for an hour on the morning show. It'd be nice to hear a story about Bonham somewhere.




Pulk out Pee-wees bike and have someone ride it with the trophy to Kyle field
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That's John. The greatest drummer of all time
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Is it in the basement?
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So in summary, the Alamo curators' boss comes to them with a statue and says they need to hang on to it. The curators run a historical monument and museum. The statue is a new football trophy named after someone who died at the monument 175 years prior. Having nothing else relevant to their mission, they stick it in the basement where everyone forgets about it.
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Ag 11 said:

92_Ag said:



That's John. The greatest drummer of all time
I was wondering if anyone would get that. Blue star for you.
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more recent pic of him
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I attended Bonham Jr. High in Amarillo.
Psycho Bunny
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I thought the James Bonham trophy, was being used as a door stop at Nagle Hall.
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"Greatest drummer of all time?" Neil says hi...

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PabloSerna said:

"Greatest drummer of all time?" Neil says hi...




Neil is a bad ass drummer, but he's no John Bonham.

RIP
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Gilligan said:

PabloSerna said:

"Greatest drummer of all time?" Neil says hi...




Neil is a bad ass drummer, but he's no John Bonham.

RIP
lol - you said it man!
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UntoldSpirit said:

"On March 3, 1836, during the siege of the Alamo, Bonham, a childhood friend of Col. Travis, braved intense fire from enemy troops to return to the Alamo and deliver the message that reinforcements would not make it in time. Despite urging from General Houston to remain, Bonham explained he was a 'man of his word' and compelled to return to his comrades at the Alamo. Three days after his return, the Alamo fell and Bonham fell at his post along with the rest of the defenders in the name of Liberty and Freedom."



Trophy hidden at the Alamo (story SA Express)

Hidden at the Alamo: Why trophy meant for winner of Texas A&M-South Carolina is hardly ever seen

June 11, 2019Updated: June 11, 2019 6:54 p.m.

The Alamo Collection holds many artifacts, but only two are related to sports: a pair of ice skates from the 1850s and the Bonham Trophy.

The trophy, awarded to the winner of the annual Texas A&M-South Carolina football game, has maintained a low profile since its inception in 2014.

"I think part of it is that it hasn't really been promoted," said Bruce Winders, Alamo curator and resident historian. "It reposes (at the Alamo), but it's not our task to actually promote it. We care for it. It just needs some better promotion.

"It needs people to know it exists."

In fact, it hardly ever leaves the archive room, and it never has made a public appearance, not even at any of the five football games between the Aggies and Gamecocks.

Before last season's meeting in Columbia, S.C., reporters asked players and coaches from each school what they knew about the trophy. Nobody seemed to know anything.

"I had no clue there was a trophy," Otaro Alaka, a linebacker with A&M from 2014 to 2018, told the Dallas Morning News before last season's game. "There's a trophy for who wins? There is no trophy for who wins. I've never seen a trophy."

But it really does exist.

You just have to know where to look.

The trophy has been on display at the Alamo complex before but mainly is kept in the archives vault.
"The trophy is on the cusp of stardom," Winders said. "People are beginning to take an interest in it, but it isn't something people come here and go, 'Let us see the trophy.' It's still in development. … We treat it like an artifact. It gets cared for and loved."

Since the trophy is kept with the Alamo Collection, it is overseen by the General Land Office, which manages the entire complex.

The trophy originally was intended to be exchanged at each game, but not by the players, said General Land Office communications director Karina Erickson. Instead, it was supposed to be traded between the governors of Texas and South Carolina.

The trophy features a bronze statue of James Bonham on horseback. It was commissioned by then-Texas and South Carolina governors Rick Perry and Nikki Haley in summer 2014.

Bonham was chosen to embody the trophy since he is a South Carolina native and graduate who died at the Alamo. Perry and Haley asked Cleburne-based sculptor Jeff Gottfried to create the trophy.

The trophy has made trips to the governor's office in Austin "at least once or twice," Winders noted, including a visit last October during the week of the A&M-South Carolina game.

But a true public presentation could be on the horizon. The Aggies and Gamecocks square off in College Station this season on Nov. 16 at Kyle Field.

Erickson said the General Land Office and Land Commissioner George P. Bush are planning to reach out to A&M officials to coordinate an exchange or presentation of the Bonham Trophy.
Until then, Winders plan to keep watching over the bronze trophy in San Antonio.

"It could turn into something high-profile if it gets more coverage and more people know about it," Winders said. "If it takes hold, I could see it being out on the field and exchanged."

"I think it's waiting for its moment."
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