Where is Grayson Reed, Colton Blanton, Luke Mathews, Chris Morris, and Tank Jenkins? Many of these guys were the 4* OL that we banked on in recruiting. I get each one has their individual issues, but it's systemic to miss on all these lineman. A big part of the result today is these consistent misses the last few years.

Because it's hard to evaluate Oline. Give me a veteran group of 3 stars like last season. That's the difference.

500,000ags said:

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Where is Grayson Reed, Colton Blanton, Luke Mathews, Chris Morris, and Tank Jenkins? Many of these guys were the 4* OL that we banked on in recruiting. I get each one has their individual issues, but it's systemic to miss on all these lineman. A big part of the result today is these consistent misses the last few years.

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Guys like Foster and Fatherlee will be stars. Starting true freshmen on the OL is always ugly. They miss assignments and get penalties. Our OL wasnt that good when Joekel and Matthews were starting as fish either.

Our o-line coach sucks. Our line last year was so good because they were all very experienced. It's all as simple as that.

we have totally whiffed on offensive tackles until the most recent class. i have hope for fatheree but when you throw a true fish out there its generally going to be tough going in a big boy league.

Rendered Fat said:

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Or maybe our coach is just a shiiity ****ing offensive line coach.

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Yep, this is on the coach. He got lucky with Turner's coaching and recruits. Dude is an ******* from what I hear and not in a good way like Turner. Just an *******. A ****ty *******.

It's baffling how high people are on Foster.

I understand, true fish, first start, etc..

But all this brute strength we heard about, the guy is getting embarrassed multiple times per game. I'm talking pushed back like a ragdoll by pedestrian JAG nose tackles on middling teams

Minimum 2 NFL lineman right now in that line.

Yes they're not great, but there is no one to blame but Jimbo.

His whining and yelling at players the entire game is getting annoying too. Yelling is not coaching.

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Or maybe our coach is just a shiiity ****ing offensive line coach.

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Bingo. Along with strength coach. Not working.

Free Lunch said:

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It's baffling how high people are on Foster.

I understand, true fish, first start, etc..

But all this brute strength we heard about, the guy is getting embarrassed multiple times per game. I'm talking pushed back like a ragdoll by pedestrian JAG nose tackles on middling teams

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what's scary...that's exactly what Kent State did to Foster a few times.

there is no solution to this problem if Foster stays at center

Probably bc we play our all American tackle at right guard



Dog**** coaching

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Because it's hard to evaluate Oline. Give me a veteran group of 3 stars like last season. That's the difference.

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The question I have is where are those 3 star upperclassmen then? Beyond McKinney, who else is injured. So Green is the only serviceable OL in those classes? Seems they should've seen this coming and started shoring up the OL with Jucos starting at least 2 years ago.

Did we have a bunch transfer out and have career ending injuries? Even then, go JUCO in response.

83Aggie said:

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Because it's hard to evaluate Oline. Give me a veteran group of 3 stars like last season. That's the difference.

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This…

Effective offensive lines are grown and built. Not recruited and plugged in. Like Groundhog Day explaining this basic football principle

Free Lunch said:

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It's baffling how high people are on Foster.

I understand, true fish, first start, etc..

But all this brute strength we heard about, the guy is getting embarrassed multiple times per game. I'm talking pushed back like a ragdoll by pedestrian JAG nose tackles on middling teams

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He is a freshman… anytime you see a freshman starting on offensive line it is usually a bad sign for the coming season. No matter their stars or potential they are not mentally ready or physically ready

Easy to show brute strength in high school. It's a foundation to build on but kid has to live up to his potential

Rendered Fat said:

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Or maybe our coach is just a shiiity ****ing offensive line coach.

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That "shiiity ****ing offensive line coach" of ours was the OC & Oline coach at Missouri while Barry Odom was the DC at Missouri. It's pretty logical these guys know their trade. Just maybe playing our best guys, albeit freshman, just don't execute like a senior.

Well Arkansas has 11 24 year olds playing & we have a ton of youngsters. That's what made such a huge difference with our OL play. That's also why Bama is so damn good.

Greene is overrated for sure. But still decent. The rest are not even average.

We would be a really darn good team if Jimbo was able to do what pitman did and that is convince kids to come back another year that were not nfl worthy. I think 2 of 4 OL that left went undrafted.

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Probably bc we play our all American tackle at right guard

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that's on reputation only... he has never played like an all american at tackle.

Ever college team suffers from the same problem. Ever year we lose some and get some new. To blame tenure is shortsighted. We stunk and we need a better HC or someone who can admit when they need coordinators to step in and call plays. Jumbo calls screen, loses 3 and then chews the ass of some receiver who was on other side of the field. Seems petty. How much to buy him out, start over with new, cheaper coach, until we pay off sumlin and Jimbo, and then start over? This season is 100% done.

Simply assuming these guys aren't capable is an error. We have a guy that started multiple years at another program and he's not playing all that well either.