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Theoretical ways to stop t.u. to the SEC

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dunlay
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12:34p, 7/26/21
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I'm NOT a lawyer, and this is IMHO, for discussion:
1. The "gentleman's agreement" -- hunt the old archived email messages, and if it is discussed, the weight of it could be more than just a hand-shake agreement. If it is in writing, even as a reference, that could have some teeth.
2. Target Florida and Georgia; start issuing cryptic statements... that if the State of Texas wasn't protected for A&M, who says the agreement is any good in Florida (FSU) and Georgia (GaTech)?
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
4. See if Tennessee is willing to surrender their reference/label of "UT"...
5. Aggies put out some thoughts about how excited t.u. must be to be able to recruit SEC players out of Lousiana

#1 is a legal maneuver, that I would assume is already being explored.
#2-#5 could get us the other 2 (reportedly) votes we need to end this.
"Democracy: 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding one what to have for supper. Liberty: 2 wolves set on supper, and finding 1 well armed sheep."
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12:36p, 7/26/21
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tu and OU have announced they are out of the B12

I can't see them doing that if they don't have very strong assurance from the SEC that they have the votes.
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12:38p, 7/26/21
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It's done. No way they don't know the way a vote goes now.
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In reply to dunlay • 12:42p, 7/26/21
I haven't cringed this bad since Manziel was on a podcast.
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12:43p, 7/26/21
I think the question is when do they officially leave the big12. They are leaving and coming to sec. We just don't know how soon.
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12:44p, 7/26/21
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Technically the vote could in theory be OU is approved but tu is not. Sips have a fallback position as the B1G would then snap them up.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:47p, 7/26/21
aggiehawg said:
Technically the vote could in theory be OU is approved but tu is not. Sips have a fallback position as the B1G would then snap them up.


I thought they committed to being a package deal?

Regardless I'm pretty sure it's already been decided both schools are coming to SEC, probably in 2023
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In reply to My Name Is Judge • 12:49p, 7/26/21
My Name Is Judge said:
aggiehawg said:
Technically the vote could in theory be OU is approved but tu is not. Sips have a fallback position as the B1G would then snap them up.


I thought they committed to being a package deal?

Regardless I'm pretty sure it's already been decided both schools are coming to SEC, probably in 2023


That sounds like a gentlemen's agreement
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12:50p, 7/26/21
It appears to already be a done deal and apparently we may actually vote for it.
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12:51p, 7/26/21
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The non-renewal of GoR was expected, even before the SEC news started coming out. I think they article references is getting a little ahead of itself is saying this is done.

I often see this kind of narrative on this board. People speak of things that have not happened yet as if they are describing a pre-determined script or grand narrative whose outcome is already determined.

Yes, I do think Texas and OU are making moves to make it possible for them to come to the SEC. Yes, I do think it is evident that they have had discussions and have probably received assurances that they will be invited.

The one thing I do not buy is that the entire conference was notified about this, EXCEPT for Texas A&M. Therefore, I have to conclude that there is still SOME risk for OU and Texas that they will not, in fact, get the votes for membership. And, I have to conclude that there would still be a possibility of changing minds.

I'm not fully convinced we OUGHT to fight this. My gut and heart say hell no, but I'm open to the possibility that this may, in fact, be good for everyone.

Can't do anything about it myself anyway, so I'm just watching.
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12:53p, 7/26/21
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Theoretically

We could send some Ags into space

Have them land on a giant meteor and use their engineering expertise to guide it to crash into Austin.
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12:54p, 7/26/21
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We are going to need a hologram of Mike Slive whispering the gentlemen's agreement into the ear of Bowen Loftin. Then, we'll need to record the conversation. That should do it.

While we're at it, we should get a hologram of Tupac and put him beside Slive and Loftin, and have him perform "Picture me Rollin'."
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12:54p, 7/26/21
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Why?!?

Just beat them on the field.
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12:55p, 7/26/21
I don't think it is end of the world for us if it is just them and ou. We are better positioned than ever before. I think it will make the conference toxic in a way it hasn't been before.

I do think a mega conference is good for us long run (meaning at least some good acc candidates join).
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12:57p, 7/26/21
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I don't think a mere ten-year-old member is likely to succeed if everyone else is voting yes. All you do is get them all aligned to vote you out or to run you off like Bama did with Bobby Dodd. I certainly do encourage building up both kinds of political capital (goodwill and the kind that you can actually spend based on what you actually bring.)
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In reply to dunlay • 12:58p, 7/26/21
dunlay said:
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
i imagine we're pretty low on the list of who fsu is willing to do a solid for.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 4:46p, 7/26/21
aggiehawg said:
Technically the vote could in theory be OU is approved but tu is not. Sips have a fallback position as the B1G would then snap them up.
It's a done deal.
Sips start play in the SEC in 2022.
Not sure if it's 2 divisions or 4 pods.
I prefer the 2 divisioms with Bama/Auburn moving to the East and Missouri to the West.
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4:54p, 7/26/21
Really good ideas, OP. I will text John Sharp right now and tell him.
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5:00p, 7/26/21
This is a done deal. All the negotiating has been done. Terms are agreed. Everything from here on out was scripted before the news broke on Wednesday.
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In reply to Just Tired • 5:22p, 7/26/21
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PJust Tired said:


i imagine we're pretty low on the list of who fsu is willing to do a solid for.
POTD
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:04p, 7/26/21
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aggiehawg said:
Technically the vote could in theory be OU is approved but tu is not. Sips have a fallback position as the B1G would then snap them up.


This times 1000
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6:09p, 7/26/21
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Fightin' Texas Aggie Class of 2015
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In reply to Just Tired • 6:10p, 7/26/21
Just Tired said:
dunlay said:
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
i imagine we're pretty low on the list of who fsu is willing to do a solid for.
Miami could be an option then
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In reply to AGinHI • 6:13p, 7/26/21
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AGinHI said:
Theoretically

We could send some Ags into space

Have them land on a giant meteor and use their engineering expertise to guide it to crash into Austin.
Is this doable??
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6:16p, 7/26/21
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Been a done deal for awhile. The big 12 comish tried to give the sooners and horns a bigger slice of the revenue, but this move isnt about money first, imo.
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6:19p, 7/26/21
You don't. It's a done deal
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In reply to dunlay • 6:21p, 7/26/21
6) Get the B1G to buy them.

If you could deliver ND with them, problem solved.
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In reply to dunlay • 6:31p, 7/26/21
dunlay said:
I'm NOT a lawyer, and this is IMHO, for discussion:
1. The "gentleman's agreement" -- hunt the old archived email messages, and if it is discussed, the weight of it could be more than just a hand-shake agreement. If it is in writing, even as a reference, that could have some teeth.
2. Target Florida and Georgia; start issuing cryptic statements... that if the State of Texas wasn't protected for A&M, who says the agreement is any good in Florida (FSU) and Georgia (GaTech)?
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
4. See if Tennessee is willing to surrender their reference/label of "UT"...
5. Aggies put out some thoughts about how excited t.u. must be to be able to recruit SEC players out of Lousiana

#1 is a legal maneuver, that I would assume is already being explored.
#2-#5 could get us the other 2 (reportedly) votes we need to end this.
No offense, but the SEC wouldn't do to us or UGA what they did to y'all...Which was, admittedly, supremely uncool.
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In reply to Swamp Thing • 7:56p, 7/26/21
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Swamp Thing said:
dunlay said:
I'm NOT a lawyer, and this is IMHO, for discussion:
1. The "gentleman's agreement" -- hunt the old archived email messages, and if it is discussed, the weight of it could be more than just a hand-shake agreement. If it is in writing, even as a reference, that could have some teeth.
2. Target Florida and Georgia; start issuing cryptic statements... that if the State of Texas wasn't protected for A&M, who says the agreement is any good in Florida (FSU) and Georgia (GaTech)?
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
4. See if Tennessee is willing to surrender their reference/label of "UT"...
5. Aggies put out some thoughts about how excited t.u. must be to be able to recruit SEC players out of Lousiana

#1 is a legal maneuver, that I would assume is already being explored.
#2-#5 could get us the other 2 (reportedly) votes we need to end this.
No offense, but the SEC wouldn't do to us or UGA what they did to y'all...Which was, admittedly, supremely uncool.
No offense taken. But in fairness, we thought the SEC wouldn't do that to us either.
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7:43a, 7/27/21
6. Let the air out of all of their tires


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In reply to Swamp Thing • 7:55a, 7/27/21
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Swamp Thing said:
dunlay said:
I'm NOT a lawyer, and this is IMHO, for discussion:
1. The "gentleman's agreement" -- hunt the old archived email messages, and if it is discussed, the weight of it could be more than just a hand-shake agreement. If it is in writing, even as a reference, that could have some teeth.
2. Target Florida and Georgia; start issuing cryptic statements... that if the State of Texas wasn't protected for A&M, who says the agreement is any good in Florida (FSU) and Georgia (GaTech)?
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
4. See if Tennessee is willing to surrender their reference/label of "UT"...
5. Aggies put out some thoughts about how excited t.u. must be to be able to recruit SEC players out of Lousiana

#1 is a legal maneuver, that I would assume is already being explored.
#2-#5 could get us the other 2 (reportedly) votes we need to end this.
No offense, but the SEC wouldn't do to us or UGA what they did to y'all...Which was, admittedly, supremely uncool.


Knowing that, we should act accordingly in the future.
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8:02a, 7/27/21
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The simplest way is to nuke Austin.
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dunlay
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In reply to Swamp Thing • 8:03a, 7/27/21
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Swamp Thing said:
dunlay said:
I'm NOT a lawyer, and this is IMHO, for discussion:
1. The "gentleman's agreement" -- hunt the old archived email messages, and if it is discussed, the weight of it could be more than just a hand-shake agreement. If it is in writing, even as a reference, that could have some teeth.
2. Target Florida and Georgia; start issuing cryptic statements... that if the State of Texas wasn't protected for A&M, who says the agreement is any good in Florida (FSU) and Georgia (GaTech)?
3. Get with FSU or GT and see if they will make a comment or 2 about no longer being prohibited from joining, if this deal goes through.
4. See if Tennessee is willing to surrender their reference/label of "UT"...
5. Aggies put out some thoughts about how excited t.u. must be to be able to recruit SEC players out of Lousiana

#1 is a legal maneuver, that I would assume is already being explored.
#2-#5 could get us the other 2 (reportedly) votes we need to end this.
No offense, but the SEC wouldn't do to us or UGA what they did to y'all...Which was, admittedly, supremely uncool.
No offense taken, however, in an agreement like this, a violation effects all. Miami or FSU could join with no barriers now. Negate a gentleman's agreement with one, the rest are trash too. The thing is, our BOR needs to make a public statement as to that, but they are too inept to do it.
"Democracy: 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding one what to have for supper. Liberty: 2 wolves set on supper, and finding 1 well armed sheep."
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8:04a, 7/27/21
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Keep in mind everyone saying "it's a done deal" don't actually have any inside knowledge that it actually is a done deal.
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8:11a, 7/27/21
All the people who say that don't know jack ****; they just love to pretend they do.
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