The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some schools would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

What happened?

Nothing. Getting caught up in media hype and of course still infected with BAS.

AvidAggie said:

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The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some school would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

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Because the reality that MONEY is the driving factor. Nothing else.

Thats the future of "college" football.

This board mostly talks out of its ass. You must be new around here if you didn't realize that.

I never bought that every school would vote against it like some people on here convinced themselves would happen. That said, I thought we wouldn't be the ONLY school that could figure out our hot, crazy ex was more crazy than hot. I was wrong.

AvidAggie said:

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The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some schools would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

What happened?

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Reality?

Pretty sure the vote will be 13-1 in favor.

I believed that it wouldn't be hard to get Mizzou and Arkansas on board and maybe convince LSU but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Considering Loftin as repeatedly said that was the deal, I think it is well established that those saying were well grounded in that opinion. But as with everything, things change and handshake deals are not binding in such things.

posters thought coaches and AD's had a vote

or at least some input

apparently reality set in about who really runs a University

To be fair, it took Loftin by surprise as well.

Vanderbilt generally abstains from votes, so it shouldn't be 13-1. My curiosity is if they are gonna offer us any considerations in scheduling, pod setup, etc for running this through despite our objections, or if it really is just straight shooting us the bird and saying deal with it.

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AvidAggie said:

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The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some schools would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

What happened?

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Reality?

Pretty sure the vote will be 13-1 in favor.

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Nah, we'll abstain so it'll be 13-0

$$$$

I assumed that Bjork knew a little about the process and there was hope to quash this. I wasn't aware that he had been sent to the kids table while the adults made decisions. How is he ever going to trust Sharp or whoever knew now?

Money appears to have trumped even the handshake agreement, it seems like fear of missing out on a realignment had Snakey jump first to grab the best programs available. To Snakey, screw the consequences and the fact we doomed the league, THINK ABOUT ALL THAT MONEY.

AvidAggie said:

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The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some schools would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

What happened?

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ESPN

BadAggie said:

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Nothing. Getting caught up in media hype and of course still infected with BAS.

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you had me at BAS

That was before it was reported that tx and ou have been in conversations with SEC schools for months without A&M knowing about it. Oops.

This was not leaked until the fix was in.

AvidAggie said:

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The board seemed pretty convinced a couple days ago that some schools would vote "no" to letting Texas and OU join the SEC.

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This board wasn't convinced. I said from the moment Brent dropped the tweet that it makes sense for the SEC and where CFB is headed.

Don't like it but I completely understand it. The willfully blind were convinced of some archaic scenario still protecting this from happening, but that was it.

Has someone seen the money numbers?

mc_shipman said:

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Vanderbilt generally abstains from votes, so it shouldn't be 13-1. My curiosity is if they are gonna offer us any considerations in scheduling, pod setup, etc for running this through despite our objections, or if it really is just straight shooting us the bird and saying deal with it.

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The latter. It is clear that our past contribution of even allowing the SEC Network to exist is a wham bam without a thank you Ma'am.

We'll be thrown under the bus several more times, just watch. You think the SEC officiating stunk before? Let the cheaters in and the refs will all be driving Lambos.

TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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No but it must be super pie in the sky for it to convince the handshake schools to drop us at the drop of a hat.

TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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No, nor I doubt we will in the near future.

TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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I've heard reports of north of $70MM per school once it all shakes out.

I work with a guy who is a Vandy alumni. He has been telling me for years that Alabama, Florida, Georgia and LSU run this conference and they are only out for themselves and they will hose you. This is the first time I have seen what he is saying take place.

Agreed, the fox was certainly allowed into the hen house. I'm shocked at how many of my dear friends from other SEC schools are welcoming this. I say within five years no one will be chanting SECSEC, it's every man for himself. The conference brotherhood will be killed

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TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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I've heard reports of north of $70MM per school once it all shakes out.

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That's almost half a billion than the current setup per year. I'm sorry but there's no freaking way they bring that kind of value.

hunter2012 said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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I've heard reports of north of $70MM per school once it all shakes out.

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That's almost half a billion than the current setup per year. I'm sorry but there's no freaking way they bring that kind of value.

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The money is already going to go up, and was before this news...significantly.

You cannot just look at it as the SEC is X + the tu/OU Y = Z dollars.

This will be the premiere superconference in a world of 4 SC's...and tu/OU do add a lot to that, but it's also going to be an entirely new way media rights are viewed and negotiated once we get to that point and the new "NFL for College" era takes off.

Is it $70+? Not sure but it's going to be massive. And i'm attributing most of it to the new landscape we'll be in as the primary factor moreso than just the addition of those 2....but they do help a lot.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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TMF said:

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Has someone seen the money numbers?

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I've heard reports of north of $70MM per school once it all shakes out.

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That's almost half a billion than the current setup per year. I'm sorry but there's no freaking way they bring that kind of value.

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Yeah, that's a lie. Only way that is true is if ESPN throws in an equity stake in the network and then the conference doesn't take a share of the distributions. Even then, don't think the numbers get that high.

Beebe Bucks redux.

Go back and listen to the interview with Bowen Loftin. The SEC leadership is not the same as it was 10 years ago. Mike Slive is gone and has been replaced by Greg Sankey. Sankey brings an entirely different mindset. The SEC is no longer a gentlemen's club made up of an association of equals.

ESPN is the driving force behind this change by virtue of having television rights to SEC games and ownership of the LHN. The change they are promoting is a win/win for the network. It brings two flagship teams into the conference they televise along with the opportunity to jettison the financial albatross LHN. And Sanky is all too glad to orchestrate a secret backroom deal to bring it about. What the member schools want is of no consequence.

It ain't gonna be like it used to be.

Maybe A&M should publicly announce that instead of Texas, Clemson or Florida State would be a better choice. Could that possibly influence the expansion vote?

Jimma said:

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Maybe A&M should publicly announce that instead of Texas, Clemson or Florida State would be a better choice. Could that possibly influence the expansion vote?

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No because of the ACC's GOR. They will enforce that unlike the Big XII. But UCF would be fun. How about Arky State? Memphis for a third Tennessee team? U of H? Just for S&Gs.

The SEC was a great college conference. Now it is not.

Oh it will win championships, too much money not to buy them, even without the crappy sips and sooners. They bring little to the league, if anything.

Handshake agreements generally only work between the two people who touched hands.