If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

They're already pretty irrelevant. But it would send them to the wastelands.

That's your bright side?!

West Point Aggie said:

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That's your bright side?!

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What else ya got?

They done

There is no bright side to OU and t.u. joining the SEC, as far as Texas A&M is concerned. Any additional monies will not fix the media love fest of t.u. and recruiting devastation that would ensue, which would lead to Fisher's "I'm out" and in 3-4 years, we are the Vanderbilt of the SEC West. Remember when Rice had that "huge" stadium in the 70's and nary a team to put in it? Welcome to KYLE.

They're toast. Not just from an athletics standpoint but from a branding standpoint it's literally the worst possible scenario.

Old Sarge said:

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There is no bright side to OU and t.u. joining the SEC, as far as Texas A&M is concerned. Any additional monies will not fix the media love fest of t.u. and recruiting devastation that would ensue, which would lead to Fisher's "I'm out" and in 3-4 years, we are the Vanderbilt of the SEC West. Remember when Rice had that "huge" stadium in the 70's and nary a team to put in it? Welcome to KYLE.

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Old Sarge said:

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There is no bright side to OU and t.u. joining the SEC, as far as Texas A&M is concerned. Any additional monies will not fix the media love fest of t.u. and recruiting devastation that would ensue, which would lead to Fisher's "I'm out" and in 3-4 years, we are the Vanderbilt of the SEC West. Remember when Rice had that "huge" stadium in the 70's and nary a team to put in it? Welcome to KYLE.

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Have another!

Old Sarge said:

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There is no bright side to OU and t.u. joining the SEC, as far as Texas A&M is concerned. Any additional monies will not fix the media love fest of t.u. and recruiting devastation that would ensue, which would lead to Fisher's "I'm out" and in 3-4 years, we are the Vanderbilt of the SEC West. Remember when Rice had that "huge" stadium in the 70's and nary a team to put in it? Welcome to KYLE.

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Ha!

HoustonAg2106 said:

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West Point Aggie said:

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That's your bright side?!

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What else ya got?

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There is NONE

HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

? Is Oklahoma legislators even going to let OU go anywhere without Ok state???? Doubt it!

To me this feels like another tu plan they are trying to make without their "new little brother OU". You know those " don't worry about it we will take care of you"!!!

West texas fan said:

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? Is Oklahoma legislators even going to let OU go anywhere without Ok state???? Doubt it!

To me this feels like another tu plan they are trying to make without their "new little brother OU". You know those " don't worry about it we will take care of you"!!!

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I dunno. You suppose the legislature has more Cowboy fans than Sooner fans? They don't have the filibuster.

West texas fan said:

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? Is Oklahoma legislators even going to let OU go anywhere without Ok state???? Doubt it!

To me this feels like another tu plan they are trying to make without their "new little brother OU". You know those " don't worry about it we will take care of you"!!!

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If the sips can get them out of the Big 12 and into the SEC, they'll put up with whatever Texas does to them.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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But how much money do the states of TX and OK lose on behalf of tceh, Baylor, TCU and OSU. I know Baylor and TCU are private.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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Bull***** Bonfire 1996 said it has no bearing on TV contracts...and he's a poster who accurately predicted tu would suffer in the leftover big 12 on Old Rivalries. He's got the receipts. So he's gotta be right.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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But how much money do the states of TX and OK lose on behalf of tceh, Baylor, TCU and OSU. I know Baylor and TCU are private.

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I'm sure Texas and OU are concerned about that very little when it comes to making this decision, same goes for the SEC

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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The money thing is ESPN pushing the deal behind closed doors, and wanting the LHN off the book. I doubt we get a substantial new tv contract

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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The money thing is ESPN pushing the deal behind closed doors, and wanting the LHN off the book. I doubt we get a substantial new tv contract

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ESPN is just a benefactor. The SEC is not going to make a decision to help Disney save $100mm. This take is ridiculous imo. The SEC is only going to make a decision that is right for them.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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According to one source*

There's no explanation where that money comes from either, especially considering you're diluting the pie from 15 pieces to 17 pieces.

Furthermore, it's a given A&M is voting no. And why would Arky, Mizzou, Ole Miss, MSU, UK, UT, Vandy, and SCar kiss their hopes and dreams of ever making the SECCCG and CFP (regardless of 12 team format) goodbye for an extra $10 million?

Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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According to one source*

There's no explanation where that money comes from either, especially considering you're diluting the pie from 15 pieces to 17 pieces.

Furthermore, it's a given A&M is voting no. And why would Arky, Mizzou, Ole Miss, MSU, UK, UT, Vandy, and SCar kiss their hopes and dreams of ever making the SECCCG and CFP (regardless of 12 team format) goodbye for an extra $10 million?

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I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this because I don't even want this to happen, but it is definitely more than one source out there talking about how much money the SEC would stand to gain by adding those programs. Just do the research

Old Sarge said:

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There is no bright side to OU and t.u. joining the SEC, as far as Texas A&M is concerned. Any additional monies will not fix the media love fest of t.u. and recruiting devastation that would ensue, which would lead to Fisher's "I'm out" and in 3-4 years, we are the Vanderbilt of the SEC West. Remember when Rice had that "huge" stadium in the 70's and nary a team to put in it? Welcome to KYLE.

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dumb. Our recruiting did not even spike until Jimbo Fisher arrived. And we are loaded and staying loaded with our roster and future QBs.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Aggieair said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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If this ends up happening, and with the amount of money at stake it probably will, the bright side is thinking about how far into irrelevance Baylor, Tech, and TCU will slip into.

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There's a hell of a lot of talk about "the amount of money that is at stake" with absolutely zero facts or evidence to back it up. One rumor comes out and everyone thinks it's a done deal.

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According to this article the SEC schools would each gain at least $10 million per year in new tv contracts alone

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawgsports.com/platform/amp/2021/7/21/22587585/texas-oklahoma-sec-longhorn-network-contract

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I've already been assured by Texags just today that we not only have veto power but that Texas and OU bring only a handful of viewers so nothing to see here.

perhaps a few bright sides...

-- corps trip to Austin might be back on

-- Jerryworld game likely over after 2024...especially if the SEC goes to the 4-team pod system

-- playing Bama and Auburn every 3 years (pod system) instead of every year. Ditto for Ole Miss and State.

-- no more annual game vs. South Carolina (permanent cross-division rivals go away)

West Point Aggie said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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West Point Aggie said:

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That's your bright side?!

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What else ya got?

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There is NONE

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Now instead of using the SEC as a selling point for recruits to sign with the good guys instead of the sips, we can just beat them head to head on the field and that will do the job just fine.

We still have Jimbo, a top tier stadium and facilities, momentum, and SEC money. OU and sips can't do anything to change that.

The only bright side is maybe we can get Bama out of our division. That would be it.

Showstopper said:

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The only bright side is maybe we can get Bama out of our division. That would be it.

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Oh come on, you have to admit that watching Baylor, Tech, and TCU fans wither away into basically conference usa teams would be at least a silver lining in this ****storm

The deal is done for the 2025 re-up. This give them a look in with a totally different look for the conference. If it is more valuable per school by at least 20% it makes economic sense to negotiate. Remember the numbers we are hearing for the ESPN acquisition of OTA exclusive rights have run in the 15 million per year on top of the current payout in the 45 million range. So add 20% of 60 million.

Also imagine that is a stand-alone true super conference and it starts by simply scheduling against itself like last year. Now imagine seeding FOUR teams into a 12 team playoff. One per pod. And the. Look for expansion by adding another super conference of 16 teams to hit 32 total.

We know the schedule for a 32-team league over 16 games. Over 12 you play you 4-team division opponents 6 games. The pods pair up for four more games for ten. Then either two opponents each in another one of the other paired pods (let's imagine one in each pod every year with one home and one awaybut this could easily be cross-conference and rotate conference pods annually.

In reality this won't happen this way, but it is very intriguing and compelling exactly for the reason the all-SEC season was this year.

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The only bright side is maybe we can get Bama out of our division. That would be it.

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I would not take that tradeoff for one second. I don't fear Bama, we can't ever seem to get around them, but I do respect the hell out of them. To be the man, you've gotta beat the man. I've enjoyed the chase. Especially now that we're close as ever

There is no upside. Under no circumstances can we allow them in.

STCLaggie21 said:

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There is no upside. Under no circumstances can we allow them in.

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It's not up to us.

And no one said "upside", but there is always a bright side to consider even in awful situations

There is no bright side giving up our recruiting advantage and letting them on equal footing with us. None.