buppy said:

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We are the MAROON headed step child of college football

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FIFY

Superb Sasquatch said:

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I honestly don't think it has anythign to do with the media "hating" A&M more than A&M hasn't been a traditional power like Bama, tOSU, etc. The Aggies also don't have a huge TV market like ND or Texas. so they don't see a need to really "lift them up" like the do other programs.

How do we fix that? Win. The media CANNOT ignore a program that wins, no matter how much they try. Look at UCF, Boise state in the 2010s, etc. Just win baby and the rest takes care of itself.

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This except I don't think Sippy is so nationally beloved that they should be in the conversation with Bama, tOSU and programs of that ilk. Hell, Sippy hasn't even been relevant in 15 years and weren't relevant before that for what...30-40 years. That said, more nationally beloved than us...yes.

I think we are just perceived as more of a regionally popular program.

I also think - with some exceptions - we have done less with more for a pretty good period of time. Under-achieving doesn't make you a national media darling.

But, as stated above. Just win (I hope we stomp the living shiite out of UT now).

It because we dont win pretty and it takes too much effort to see how good our team is other than points scored.

#Mke said:

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You can tell that there is so much disdain for A&M among the national sports media. You can tell that they absolutely hate that A&M beat Florida and is ranked ahead of them. They hate that a Notre Dame win could get A&M into the playoffs, and they hate that A&M is threatening their beloved Ohio State. But my questions is why? We're 7-1 and our only loss is to #1 Alabama. We've got a pretty good case to be in the conversation if you ask me, as evident by our Top 5 ranking.

I know from older Ags that there is a history of national sports media putting down A&M, and just wanted to know some of the history behind that if anybody cares to share!

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F'em

They are being honest. We are a good team, but the 4 team above us are better overall teams than A&M.

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#Mke said:

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You can tell that there is so much disdain for A&M among the national sports media. You can tell that they absolutely hate that A&M beat Florida and is ranked ahead of them. They hate that a Notre Dame win could get A&M into the playoffs, and they hate that A&M is threatening their beloved Ohio State. But my questions is why? We're 7-1 and our only loss is to #1 Alabama. We've got a pretty good case to be in the conversation if you ask me, as evident by our Top 5 ranking.

I know from older Ags that there is a history of national sports media putting down A&M, and just wanted to know some of the history behind that if anybody cares to share!

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Y'all need to realize how bad it could be. There was a day when we were a top the SWC and because "Texas was down" we weren't considered a legitimate national championship team.

Now at least we don't have the "Well the SEC is weak"so the Aggies can't be in the top teams.

There was a day when our conference mates actively campaigned against us.

Be glad we aren't there now. At least we control our own destiny. I'm very happy about that.

Bama, Clemson, ND are all conservative institutions. This has nothing to do with poltics. We are just not as good as the team above us.

Most of the msms are sheep and biased for the status quo. Anything that disturbs the status quo is typically distrusted, until proven overwhelmingly.

But, we couldn't even hang with bama for a half. How the hell can we realistically expect anyone to go to bat for us!

K_1987 said:

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They are being honest. We are a good team, but the 4 team above us are better overall teams than A&M.

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Nothing indicates osu is a better team than tamu this season.

lil_frog8 said:

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They hate us because they have BAS as well... every time they find a reason to back us like the "Johnny Football story" we go and screw it up with a signatures for cash scandal, undefeated starts to epic melts in November, huge leads and pimp sticks to epic fourth qtr craters. We have always pulled the rug out from under the media in recent history so it's a lot easier to cast as the heel than the hero.

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They hate us cause they aint us

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cheroczech said:

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The national media doesn't hate A&M. They just hate you.

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Puzzling response but ok

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It clearly was a childish remark.
Lot's of children on TexAgs.

K_1987 said:

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Bama, Clemson, ND are all conservative institutions. This has nothing to do with poltics. We are just not as good as the team above us.

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I respectfully disagree, and believe A&M is more conservative than any of the schools you listed.

I also believe we can currently beat any team in the country.

K_1987 said:

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They are being honest. We are a good team, but the 4 team above us are better overall teams than A&M.

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Ohio state is not. Nothing about their resume says otherwise

I don't think the talking heads "hate" A&M (except perhaps... MARK MAY), but there is an obvious bias for the Big10; just look at the preseason hype they gave to Penn State and Wisconsin!!! If there really was a SEC bias, as idiots in the Big10 and Big12 allege, then a 6 game winning streak in a SEC-only schedule would warrant praise rather than excuses for why Ohio State's issues should be overlooked and A&M's accomplishments so easily dismissed.

cheroczech said:

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The national media doesn't hate A&M. They just hate you.

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My god, the idiocy in this thread..

No "liberal" media is out to get your brainwashed BAS mind. Aggies have literally done nothing but disappoint from high expectations since 2012. We are #5 in the nation. There is literally no legitimate argument you can make to put us higher.

I bet it is because they read TexAgs and see that you folks ever do is bash the media. The street runs both ways.

Try introspection for a change.

Ian Neff said:

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The national media is riddled with leftists.

That is why.

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You people are nuts. Lol. Alex Jones loonies personified.

The sports media is riddled with leftist. How can anyone not know that. Whats funny is we get punished for being a conservative university, and we aren't....lol. we are woke as ****.

It started with Jackie and has continued with Jimbo - we pay a LOT of money for a championship coach. We're the program that is trying to buy a trophy. We haven't shown it on the field yet.

Also, and especially this year, we don't have story. We don't have a player that has done something extraordinary for the national media to discuss. Our guys are showing up and doing exactly what they should.

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No worries. He'll forgive you.

If we can ever be competitive against the likes of Alabama, then we will get some love. I don't think you can get blown out (by anyone) and still be in the conversation. But... I still laughed at Herbie's comments tonight about the Alabama / Florida game. Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to even speak about Ohio State because of his ties to the team.

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K_1987 said:

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Bama, Clemson, ND are all conservative institutions. This has nothing to do with poltics. We are just not as good as the team above us.

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I respectfully disagree, and believe A&M is more conservative than any of the schools you listed.

I also believe we can currently beat any team in the country.

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Was any of those other institutions QB 1 walking down the street chanting " NO JUSTICE NO PEACE, EFF THE RACIST ASS POLICE"
Did one of those other schools players remove his shirt and threaten to fight older alumni over a statue the player deemed racist.
And did those other universities tweet out in support of BLM?


Spare me the A&M is more conservative that those other universities.

Those who think the media hates us are probably the same people screaming about officiating being fixed during every game.

Fixating on the idea that "the world is out to get us" as opposed to what we can do to better ourselves is a sign of the weak minded.

Those that feel hated and disrespected are being too subjective. I get it, Aggies are proud and there is a lot to be proud about - football is just not one them. There have been some bright spots, but we have no no record of winning. Don't misperceive skepticism for hate or disrespect. Win a couple SEC championships and I think that will start to change or at least then you may have a point.

If an employee that previously was mediocre makes some life changes, and starts performing at a higher level, do you immediately put them up for promotion with the "blue blood" people who have been consistently at the top? Or wait a little longer?

We need to win consistently before we're considered blue blood, but ala Clemson in recent times, a couple years of 10 win seasons and we will be there.

They hate the bevel. And they're justified.

Honestly, though, there are "cooler" teams. As much as we mock the uterus, it's a much better logo that invokes far more to the overage unaffiliated than ATM.

As much as ND gets the attention: the Fighting Irish invokes more than Fightin' Texas Aggies and lends itself to better imagery.

As dumb as dotting the i in Ohio may be, the helmet sticker thing and their winning tradition stand out.

I think A&M has far better traditions and clearly has more of them, but they're not are relatable (from the outside looking in you can't understand it), marketable, or unavoidable. The media doesn't have a reason to fawn over us at this point.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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They hate the bevel. And they're justified.

Honestly, though, there are "cooler" teams. As much as we mock the uterus, it's a much better logo that invokes far more to the overage unaffiliated than ATM.

As much as ND gets the attention: the Fighting Irish invokes more than Fightin' Texas Aggies and lends itself to better imagery.

As dumb as dotting the i in Ohio may be, the helmet sticker thing and their winning tradition stand out.

I think A&M has far better traditions and clearly has more of them, but they're not are relatable (from the outside looking in you can't understand it), marketable, or unavoidable. The media doesn't have a reason to fawn over us at this point.

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The nasty burnt orange uniforms and pansy hat wearing band do so many wonders for Texas branding. GTFO with this nonsense.

Winning is all that matters. Start winning conference and national championships and suddenly you are the media darling.

Right now, we are still an unknown commodity that has proven many times before that we tend to **** the bed in critical moments. If Jimbo continues to build this program up and manage to not shart down our pant legs then all would be quickly forgotten.

This.....It's like everything else in this country right now. Everything that is right is now wrong and everything that is wrong is now right.
TAM represents things that have built this country and stands for integrity, honor, sacrifice, hard work, outdoorsman, military leaders and faith in our Creator.
All these things are bad traits now in our country. Sad but true.

Two things are true but unrelated:

1) The sports media IS riddled with leftists.

2) A&M has been its own worst enemy for many years.

Many in the media respect A&M's history of traditions and the support -- both financial and otherwise -- of the 12th Man.

But that's never translated into success on the field. So they don't take us seriously.

Also, throw out the stats, etc., on Mond ... he just doesn't inspire confidence like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask. The media can't come out and say it, but they expect Mond and the Aggies to crash and burn.

Don't hate us, they don't trust us and a lot has to do with the Sumlin November dives.

In short, many in the media have BAS.

Mond doesn't instill confidence, but Jumbo does.

Ian Neff said:

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The national media is riddled with leftists.

That is why.

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That must be why they love Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida...

They don't hate us, we just haven't been relevant in the past 20 years. 1998, 2012-2013 about all we have to hang our hat on in recent memory.

alans17 said:

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Ian Neff said:

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The national media is riddled with leftists.

That is why.

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That must be why they love Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida...

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Notre Dame, Auburn...

Superb Sasquatch said:

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I honestly don't think it has anythign to do with the media "hating" A&M more than A&M hasn't been a traditional power like Bama, tOSU, etc. The Aggies also don't have a huge TV market like ND or Texas. so they don't see a need to really "lift them up" like the do other programs.

How do we fix that? Win. The media CANNOT ignore a program that wins, no matter how much they try. Look at UCF, Boise state in the 2010s, etc. Just win baby and the rest takes care of itself.

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That is so wrong when compared to Texas. A&M has every bit of the market share that Texas does, or damn close especially in state. Concerning ND, I will agree; they truly have a national brand and viewership audience based primarily on the geographical variance in where their alumni live. But both A&M and Texas have a significant majority of their alumni, brand, and viewership within the state. All the major cities of Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio (where the TV market money matters) have basically equal share between A&M & Texas. This isn't the late 90s or early 2000s anymore.

A&M having the enormous Texas TV market audience might be the single biggest reason we were added to the SEC in fact, and why adding Texas hasn't been seriously considered by the SEC front office. Adding Texas wouldn't add any significant TV market share. And it's all about the money that comes from market share. A&M instantly became maybe be the single most valuable member of the conference when it comes to pure viewership audience, as soon as we joined in 2012.