Have you heard about any college football players that have been hospitalized from covid?

There was one story about a guy named Jamain Stephens who was a division ii player that died from it, but then that was reversed. He died of something else. Even the media shows no concern when college football players get it. Why is that? It's just well, so and so has covid when's the next game?

Yet...We shut down local economies when these games are cancelled.

I could be wrong but I think it's just as much about stopping the spread as it is player safety.

Zero

And Covid is not going anywhere.. it will be around forever.

Are we going to cancel the way of life permanently?

Life has to go on

It's way more dangerous to play the game of football than it is getting COVID.

Zero

And I heard about 2 weeks ago there had been no evidence of transmission from one team to another while competing - in any sport.

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Zero

And Covid is not going anywhere.. it will be around forever.

Are we going to cancel the way of life permanently?

Life has to go on

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It changes until the pieces are in place to combat it. There will come a day when a quarter of a million people don't die from it within a few months. The vaccine is one piece. Lookup your ancestors' causes of death and see how many died of pneumonia, influenza, child birth, etc. We'll get on top of it and this too shall pass.

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I could be wrong but I think it's just as much about stopping the spread as it is player safety.

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You're not going to stop the spread.

Are those players going to coach themselves? What about the other people they come into contact with in Bright and on their travels?

From the A&M football account

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SCHEDULE UPDATE:

Saturday's game vs Ole Miss has been postponed. The opportunity to reschedule will be evaluated.

aggi.es/2UwNx9N

#GigEm

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"Opportunity to reschedule will be evaluated" doesn't sound very reassuring

NBA "bubble"
NFL
CFB

All these supposed covid "outbreaks" and how many of these athletes have even had the sniffles, let alone been hospitalized.

I'll hang up and listen to the Branch Covidians weigh in.

I agree with you 100%. I was just stating that I think the idea behind postponements etc is to limit interaction between possible carriers. Whether we like it or not, you can't really argue with the fact that IF our players are possibly carrying it without symptoms and we are not 100% certain that they won't get it within 14 days of contact with someone who tested positive, then limiting their contact with other people for 14 days is the only way to guarantee they won't spread it at least due to football activity. No stopping them from just walking around town, but the decision-makers have to take certain measures within their control.

I say that as someone who had the virus, showed symptoms for 48 hours, and now am 100% back to normal. So I personally don't think it's a big deal among the players or a threat to player safety.

Last numbers I saw were from 10/5/20. 25 large colleges including TAMU. Numbers included staff. About 70,000 positive cases, 3 hospitalized, 0 deaths.

COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

Pointless displays to show "we're doing something". Except in this case all we're doing is slowing the herd immunity we should be building while actually protecting the elderly and susceptible population.

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COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

Pointless displays to show "we're doing something". Except in this case all we're doing is slowing the herd immunity we should be building while actually protecting the elderly and susceptible population.

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Yep

Without all the shutdowns we may have reached herd immunity by now

Now here in NY you have a power hungry governor telling everyone they can't have more than 10 people in their house

The fear monger omg and need to "show" something us being done are completely out of control for a virus that's fatal to a fraction of a percent of those who contract it


We know who's mist at risk do let those folks stay home while the rest of us get back to life

The ones who have it the worst because of the shutdowns ate the kids who got to school

It's screwing then up mentally, emotionally and socially

Kids need social interaction with other kids, not zoom meetings and 6 feet distancing with masks on

Herd immunity isn't a naturally occurring thing. We have never achieved herd immunity to a virus without a vaccine. Sure the velocity may slow, but it would continue to spread at a fair clip as measles spreads in pockets of unvaccinated people. Say you need at least 50% of the population to contract the virus to achieve herd immunity (it may actually be as high as 80%, but 50% might conceivably be enough), you're going to have north of 700,000 deaths. Excluding people who die of other causes due to rationing of care. Even then, you'll still have some spread, particularly among small children, who will in turn spread to adult family members who lack immunity.

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I could be wrong but I think it's just as much about virtue signaling and pretending we're actually doing something so the optics are good for snowflakes..

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FIFY

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Herd immunity isn't a naturally occurring thing. We have never achieved herd immunity to a virus without a vaccine. Sure the velocity may slow, but it would continue to spread at a fair clip as measles spreads in pockets of unvaccinated people. Say you need at least 50% of the population to contract the virus to achieve herd immunity (it may actually be as high as 80%, but 50% might conceivably be enough), you're going to have north of 700,000 deaths. Excluding people who die of other causes due to rationing of care. Even then, you'll still have some spread, particularly among small children, who will in turn spread to adult family members who lack immunity.

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This.

Why is this so hard for people to understand.

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TX_Aggie37 said:

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I could be wrong but I think it's just as much about virtue signaling and pretending we're actually doing something so the optics are good for snowflakes..

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FIFY

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Basically yeah. They have to do something.

I just got off our weekly department meeting for the hospital I work at. I'm not clinical, but obviously every aspect here is dependent on the clinical side. We are having to activate previously unused disaster beds. Our ER is sending people up daily to be admitted who are positive. Another hospital nearby is at capacity. Letting everyone run wild to achieve herd immunity, let alone doing so without a vaccine, is going to result in a lot of additional deaths for people who catch it as well as those who have other illnesses that can't be admitted because of overcrowding. I don't think everyone has thought this through.

If all goes well, we maintain status quo until these new vaccines can be made widely available, and then we start returning to normal. I'm pretty sure, however, that the holidays are about to push us into record numbers. Sitting tight during this isn't easy, harder for some than others, but I think it could be a lot worse.

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Have you heard about any college football players that have been hospitalized from covid?

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Here we go again, it's not about the players, it's about the old people they threaten while protesting. BELIEVE THE SCIENCE!

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Last numbers I saw were from 10/5/20. 25 large colleges including TAMU. Numbers included staff. About 70,000 positive cases, 3 hospitalized, 0 deaths.

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That's far fewer than the flu every year. What a bunch of morons we have making decisions for the rest of us.

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COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

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It seems like it has worked pretty effectively in New Zealand and Australia.

Now it is your turn to make another illogical assertion.

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PunchyFarmer said:

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Last numbers I saw were from 10/5/20. 25 large colleges including TAMU. Numbers included staff. About 70,000 positive cases, 3 hospitalized, 0 deaths.

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That's far fewer than the flu every year. What a bunch of morons we have making decisions for the rest of us.

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There is a vaccine for the flu which gives people confidence.

It seems like the first rule of an misinformed argument is to put down the opposing side... like a 4th grade bully.

Sad state of affairs in the Zoo.

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I just got off our weekly department meeting for the hospital I work at. I'm not clinical, but obviously every aspect here is dependent on the clinical side. We are having to activate previously unused disaster beds. Our ER is sending people up daily to be admitted who are positive. Another hospital nearby is at capacity. Letting everyone run wild to achieve herd immunity, let alone doing so without a vaccine, is going to result in a lot of additional deaths for people who catch it as well as those who have other illnesses that can't be admitted because of overcrowding. I don't think everyone has thought this through.

If all goes well, we maintain status quo until these new vaccines can be made widely available, and then we start returning to normal. I'm pretty sure, however, that the holidays are about to push us into record numbers. Sitting tight during this isn't easy, harder for some than others, but I think it could be a lot worse.

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I don't believe any of the published numbers. Your info is way more relevant to me. I know you are telling truth but we didn't see max hospital capacity numbers the first wave so now that we know how to treat it better than we did then why do you think we will see max capacity this wave?

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Decay said:

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COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

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It seems like it has worked pretty effectively in New Zealand and Australia.

Now it is your turn to make another illogical assertion.

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Austrailia
Population
2020 estimate
25,698,300

New Zealand
Population
November 2020 estimate
5,095,510[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand#cite_note-populationestimate-10][6][/url] (120th)

Way to go keeping 30 million isolated people safe.

We have 300 million people and tons of more vectors. NYC alone was the largest COVID epicenter on the planet while practicing some of the strictest lockdowns anywhere.

The only illogical assertions are pretending we have more control over this than nature allows. WE NEED TO KEEP THE ELDERLY AND SUSCEPTIBLE AWAY FROM IT. That's it. Locking down 200+ people, basically all of whom are at zero risk of death, for 3 cases doesn't make any sense. We should have let the football team and staff practice normally.

We throw the baby out with the bath water every few weeks by locking down the exact same populations that need to get this and get over this.

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Decay said:

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COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

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It seems like it has worked pretty effectively in New Zealand and Australia.

Now it is your turn to make another illogical assertion.

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No it didn't they keep having waves just like everyone else.

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Gump 02 said:

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Decay said:

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COVID shutdowns, masks, and distancing = 1950's "duck and cover" measures against nukes.

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It seems like it has worked pretty effectively in New Zealand and Australia.

Now it is your turn to make another illogical assertion.

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No it didn't they keep having waves just like everyone else.

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Obviously you are joking. The "waves" are orders-of-magnitude smaller than the US.

Do some analysis before you spout nonsense.

Maybe we should take this conversation to F16.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2020/11/09/utes-had-player/

Normally I would agree, however a lot of issues and division we are dealing with right now are due to all the echo chambers the internet has created. IDK if you have gone over to F16 recently, but they are not exactly the most rational bunch of folks on the internet. Maybe it's a good thing to have some rational disagreement once in a while...

This thread suck and TexAgs is really starting to as well.

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I just got off our weekly department meeting for the hospital I work at. I'm not clinical, but obviously every aspect here is dependent on the clinical side. We are having to activate previously unused disaster beds. Our ER is sending people up daily to be admitted who are positive. Another hospital nearby is at capacity. Letting everyone run wild to achieve herd immunity, let alone doing so without a vaccine, is going to result in a lot of additional deaths for people who catch it as well as those who have other illnesses that can't be admitted because of overcrowding. I don't think everyone has thought this through.

If all goes well, we maintain status quo until these new vaccines can be made widely available, and then we start returning to normal. I'm pretty sure, however, that the holidays are about to push us into record numbers. Sitting tight during this isn't easy, harder for some than others, but I think it could be a lot worse.

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I don't believe any of the published numbers. Your info is way more relevant to me. I know you are telling truth but we didn't see max hospital capacity numbers the first wave so now that we know how to treat it better than we did then why do you think we will see max capacity this wave?

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Honestly I think we start maxing out more because 1) flu season is starting also which may complicate things 2) there are a few major holidays on the way that are built around families traveling and gathering and 3) Covid fatigue. People are getting increasingly disgruntled over the steps we are taking and are pushing back more and more. It's not just the 20 year olds any more. I can understand the sentiment, I just hope it doesn't cause another huge spike. I do believe there is some truth to your assertion that we know more about treating it now, but it still doesn't clear up over night, and for some that means multiple days in the hospital.

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2020/11/09/utes-had-player/

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Seeking to clarify what Whittingham said, a Utah athletic department spokesman later provided a statement to The Salt Lake Tribune, As it turns out, yes, the Utes have had a player admitted to a hospital.

"One student-athlete who has not been participating with the football program since August recently tested positive for COVID-19 and was hospitalized," the statement read. "He has since been released from the hospital. He is at home and is doing much better. Throughout this time, he has been receiving full care from the medical team."

SHUT IT ALL DOWN

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PunchyFarmer said:

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Last numbers I saw were from 10/5/20. 25 large colleges including TAMU. Numbers included staff. About 70,000 positive cases, 3 hospitalized, 0 deaths.

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That's far fewer than the flu every year. What a bunch of morons we have making decisions for the rest of us.

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There is a vaccine for the flu which gives people confidence.

It seems like the first rule of an misinformed argument is to put down the opposing side... like a 4th grade bully.

Sad state of affairs in the Zoo.

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Haha, "misinformed".

Can you do math? Unless you are in a very, very narrowly defined group of the population, this virus carries the same risk as the common cold.