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SinKiller said:

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There is ZERO chance that a one loss A&M gets in over a one loss Notre Dame team.

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Your missing the point, a conference championship loser is not making the playoff according to past committee rulings. It does not matter if it's Alabama with a loss to Florida or Notre Dame with a loss to Clemson.

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 teams went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

It would take Notre dame getting basically blown out for me to be confident in our chances at a spot.

Because it's SEC football and we are not yet an elite team. @ Auburn will be a very difficult game. Mond can have a terrible or average game on the road, and that won't win at Auburn.

We COULD win all of our remaining games but could also easily lose to any of them but UT. Could is not should.....

If I had to guess:

LSU: Aggies by 13+
@ Auburn: Auburn in a close game
@ UT: Aggies by 14+
Ole Miss: Aggies by 10+

That would still be a great season.

Seems like we've beat this to death. It's gonna be the SEC, ACC, Big 10 champs and somebody else. Let's see what happens. Would it be all that bad to run the table a d win a NY6 game and set us up for next year? How did that work out for LSU?

Next year..... there's a phrase we've never heard before.

Our toughest remaining game is our road game at Auburn on 12/5. I would like us to win out to finish 9-1, but an 8-2 season would be good enough for second in the SEC West and a NY6 bowl appearance. That could take recruiting to the next level.

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

tjack16 said:

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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I think if ND loses in the CCG they'll fall out of the cfp with or without having the name cachet. If they don't something is rotten in Denmark...

greg.w.h said:

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tjack16 said:

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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I think if ND loses in the CCG they'll fall out of the cfp with or without having the name cachet. If they don't something is rotten in Denmark...

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I know It's been repeated to death but this is the year for an expanded playoff. It's nearly impossible to get the top 4 right in a year like this. There will be at least 3 schools that think they got screwed over

greg.w.h said:

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tjack16 said:

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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I think if ND loses in the CCG they'll fall out of the cfp with or without having the name cachet. If they don't something is rotten in Denmark...

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Depends on how they lose. If' it's close, they have a good chance of being in.

TyperWoods said:

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greg.w.h said:

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tjack16 said:

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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I think if ND loses in the CCG they'll fall out of the cfp with or without having the name cachet. If they don't something is rotten in Denmark...

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Depends on how they lose. If' it's close, they have a good chance of being in.

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That's fair. The committee signaled the sensation with OU replaying and defeating Texas that was enough to qualify one over the other. And they already prefer not that repeat games that have already been played. Giving ND and Clemson a possible third game seems unlikely given both stances previously.

But yeah...if they truly believe their eyes alone see a justification for that there is zero accountability.

As stated at the top, I just dont see a Selection Committee awarding ANY team a berth in 4 team playoff after they just lost a game.

They are trying to determine which 4 are best RIGHT NOW, and theyre looking at 1) Body of Work and 2) How you Finish

Any team losing its last game self-eliminates.
Until the Committee ever does different, I'm believing that.

Nobody seems to be concerned with Okie State, If they win out, that gives OU three BDF losses which would
I think put the sips back in control of their own destiny as far as making the BDF championship game. Should Okie State beat them and avenge their only loss, that would be just like OU did to t.u. .last year.

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Nobody seems to be concerned with Okie State, If they win out, that gives OU three BDF losses which would
I think put the sips back in control of their own destiny as far as making the BDF championship game. Should Okie State beat them and avenge their only loss, that would be just like OU did to t.u. .last year.

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That was in 2018. Oklahoma lost to Texas 48-45 on 10/6/18, but they avenged their only regular season loss with a 39-27 win over Texas in the 2018 Big 12 Championship game. Last year, OU's only regular season loss was a 48-41 loss at Kansas State on 10/26/19, and OU defeated Baylor 30-23 in the 2019 Big 12 Championship game.

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.
Iraq2xVeteran said:
Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama


Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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Forget the name power; Playing in the big10 west, those two teams lacked quality wins on their resumes


Bama could survive a loss to Florida, and I think Nd could survive a close loss to Clemson, though it wouldn't be a shoe in

ND's resume would be strong with the first Clemson win and a win over unc

Ours would be strong with a win over Florida and a win over auburn

It would be really close

The Clemson results would likely be the deciding factor: either they'd say they are right there with Clemson and deserve to get in over us or they will say 2 times they played them and they list when Clemson has their starting qb so A&M gets the nod


If we do get in, get ready for the media hate from guys like pollack screaming that we list to bama by 28 do we font deserve to get in and that Cincy or BYU should be in instead

True that, however, the point is that an Okie State team with one loss, a conference championship, and a win over the only team to beat them, has a good chance of coming in to that number four slot ahead of us.

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As stated at the top, I just dont see a Selection Committee awarding ANY team a berth in 4 team playoff after they just lost a game.

They are trying to determine which 4 are best RIGHT NOW, and theyre looking at 1) Body of Work and 2) How you Finish

Any team losing its last game self-eliminates.
Until the Committee ever does different, I'm believing that.

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It always depends on what else is available.

If an undefeated team loses a close game to another undefeated team in the CCG, and the other playoff options are two loss teams, they will likely go with the team with 1 loss.

tjack16 said:

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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tjack16 said:

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We have yet to have an undefeated team going into a Conference title game and lose. So technically we have no basis for how the committee would vote in that situation. I think a 1 loss ND team gets in over 8-1 or 9-1 A&M.

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Two Big 10 went 12-0 during the regular season, but lost the Big 10 Championship Game in the playoff era. Neither team was selected to the playoffs.

2015: No. 4 12-0 Iowa lost to No. 5 11-1 Michigan State 16-13 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 5 before getting blown out 45-16 by Pac-12 Champion Stanford in the Rose Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 13-0 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Alabama, No. 3 12-1 Michigan State, No. 4 11-1 Oklahoma

2017: No. 3 12-0 Wisconsin lost to No. 8 10-2 Ohio State 27-21 in the Big 10 Championship game and dropped to No. 6 before defeating Miami 34-24 in the Orange Bowl.
Playoff teams: No. 1 12-1 Clemson, No. 2 12-1 Oklahoma, No. 3 12-1 Georgia, No. 4 11-1 Alabama

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Ah my bad forgot about those two. Though I will say those 2 teams don't hold the name power that ND have.

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This is consistently been the playoff committees process. I don't think there is a year it hasn't go

For P5 teams
1. Winning percentage/number of losses
2. Conference championship (SEC, ACC/Big Ten given preference)
3. Conference affiliation (SEC, ND/ACC/Big Ten given preference in that order)
4. Name brand recognition of school



In 2015, it wouldn't have mattered if Iowa had lost in CCG or week 1, since Iowa and OU both had one loss, the Big 12 champion was going to get in over the non-champion from the Big Ten, especially since Big Ten already had made it.


In 2017, again it would not have mattered if the loss was in the CCG or early in the season, both Bama and Wisconsin had 1 loss, neither was a conference champion, and Alabama/SEC wins tie-breaker #3 or 4.

(and it isn't out of the question that the Big Ten has 2 undefeated teams this year due to COVID game cancellations).

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....,.Don't get too carried away with that #5, that's as much from circumstance and default as much as anything else.

In the end, the Ags have played 1 maybe 2 really good teams. They weren't in one and won the other late. Outside of that, didn't beat anyone that anyone else in the top 40 probably wouldn't have.

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'Sip Shiller, I don't think you have a very good handle on this season. "Only" 1 top 5 victory? Almost no teams in America have ANY top 10 victories, let alone top 5, and NO ONE outside Bama has two high quality, and then only if you admit that WE are one of them.

Fact is, A&M's resume stacks up just fine thank you in this crazy year. Now go take your pretend-Aggie stuff elsewhere..... I know things are pretty crap in Austin, but are you really THAT ashamed to show your own flag?

What point is it for the playoff committee to see A&M v Bama round 2? They got a solid answer the first time.

Due to the lack of any cross-conference games, the committee should just choose the top 4 conference champions. Maybe not the "right" answer, but it's the most obvious when you don't have a good body of cross-conference comparison.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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What point is it for the playoff committee to see A&M v Bama round 2? They got a solid answer the first time.

Due to the lack of any cross-conference games, the committee should just choose the top 4 conference champions. Maybe not the "right" answer, but it's the most obvious when you don't have a good body of cross-conference comparison.

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