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Will Nebraska rejoin Big XII?

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Ogre09
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If only for one season?
EKUAg
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https://sports.yahoo.com/big-ten-commissioner-kevin-warren-lashes-out-at-nebraska-after-critical-statements-023133028.html
BMX Bandit
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No. Next question
Jbob04
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No. There will be no season for anybody
Mort Rainey
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Doubt it
Ferg
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a better move would be the ACC as they have 15 this year with Notre Dame.

That said, I thought the real value of the Big 10 is that research consortium they are all in.
Would they really risk access to that?
Kozmozag
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Academics was the excuse to leave wasn't it?
Ogre09
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EKUAg said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/big-ten-commissioner-kevin-warren-lashes-out-at-nebraska-after-critical-statements-023133028.html


Well, that answers that. Big 10 office says no. So they would have to permanently leave the Big 10 and forfeit $$$.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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How can anyone on here honestly criticize Nebraska for leaving the bdf!

We left and it was the best decision since integration. Ou tried to leave but failed. The other 8 would bail in a heartbeat if they could.
LB12Diamond
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Is this really that surprising? Of course this is what the big 10 would do. Nebraska was foolish to even think they could pull this off without repercussions.
Mac94
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Nah ... they'll just play BYU ten times
McInnis80
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I think Dr. Tom will remind the folks in Lincoln about the joys of dealing with the University of Texas. I also don't think the school is ready to take a permanent $25M a year haircut for the fun of dealing with the Horns. Being in the Big 10 has give Nebraska access to the the huge pool of students in Chicago. They will not give that up.
monarch
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You speak silly crap OP.
Peace for Ukraine!
TheWoodsAg
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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

How can anyone on here honestly criticize Nebraska for leaving the bdf!

We left and it was the best decision since integration. Ou tried to leave but failed. The other 8 would bail in a heartbeat if they could.


Because Nebraska's circumstances are nothing like ours. Where A&M fits the SEC like a glove from a cultural standpoint, Nebraska is an outlier in the B1G politically and academically. They are a group of conservative, agricultural minded people stuck with a bunch of liberal "high minded academics" who think their #%+ doesn't stink.

If you think tu is a bastion of liberal arrogant ******ry, they are right up there with Michigan, Ohio St, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois. Despite the Texas arrogance, Nebraska had good neighbors in Iowa St, Kansas St and a historical rival in OU. They have nothing of the sort in the B1G.

Their experience in their new conference has been very different than ours.
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Listen to this learned man, he knows of what he speaks.
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Ugly
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TheWoodsAg said:

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

How can anyone on here honestly criticize Nebraska for leaving the bdf!

We left and it was the best decision since integration. Ou tried to leave but failed. The other 8 would bail in a heartbeat if they could.


Because Nebraska's circumstances are nothing like ours. Where A&M fits the SEC like a glove from a cultural standpoint, Nebraska is an outlier in the B1G politically and academically. They are a group of conservative, agricultural minded people stuck with a bunch of liberal "high minded academics" who think their #%+ doesn't stink.

If you think tu is a bastion of liberal arrogant ******ry, they are right up there with Michigan, Ohio St, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois. Despite the Texas arrogance, Nebraska had good neighbors in Iowa St, Kansas St and a historical rival in OU. They have nothing of the sort in the B1G.

Their experience in their new conference has been very different than ours.
Yeah, Colorado and Nebraska are probably not as thrilled with their conference moves as Missouri and Texas A&M right now.
hunter2012
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I would be fine adding them to the SEC and letting Mizzou walk to the B1G, seems like a better fit for both anyway.

If the BDF can fly over half the country for West Virginia, SEC can fly over 2 states for the Corn.
JST92
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Loving the idea of swapping Nebraska for misery. Push Auburn to the east.
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Ugly said:

TheWoodsAg said:

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

How can anyone on here honestly criticize Nebraska for leaving the bdf!

We left and it was the best decision since integration. Ou tried to leave but failed. The other 8 would bail in a heartbeat if they could.


Because Nebraska's circumstances are nothing like ours. Where A&M fits the SEC like a glove from a cultural standpoint, Nebraska is an outlier in the B1G politically and academically. They are a group of conservative, agricultural minded people stuck with a bunch of liberal "high minded academics" who think their #%+ doesn't stink.

If you think tu is a bastion of liberal arrogant ******ry, they are right up there with Michigan, Ohio St, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois. Despite the Texas arrogance, Nebraska had good neighbors in Iowa St, Kansas St and a historical rival in OU. They have nothing of the sort in the B1G.

Their experience in their new conference has been very different than ours.
Yeah, Colorado and Nebraska are probably not as thrilled with their conference moves as Missouri and Texas A&M right now.
maybe not Nebraska, but CO fits in pretty well culture wise with the PAC 12. If I remember correctly, CO was actual decent a few years ago in football
TheBro
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McInnis80 said:

I think Dr. Tom will remind the folks in Lincoln about the joys of dealing with the University of Texas. I also don't think the school is ready to take a permanent $25M a year haircut for the fun of dealing with the Horns. Being in the Big 10 has give Nebraska access to the the huge pool of students in Chicago. They will not give that up.
Was the Texas pool or the Chicago pool better? How have they done with that Chicago pool?
St Hedwig Aggie
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Nebby is caught between worlds...their old B8 world was once a big deal...it no longer is and the big ten is Ohio state, mich and the original bunch...maybe the b12 is where they best fit
Agsuffering@bulaw
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The pandemic is a 1-off and not foreseeable. The sips demanded to run the bdf in a way that was only beneficial to them. Say what you want about their politics, the B1G still operates like a partnership. Notice that nobody in Nebraska is serious about leaving!

Until the Wuhan flu, Nebraska had no regrets. The bdf has devolved into a Second-rate conference. It was inevitable, since most lack the fan base to support a high level.

The B1G at least operates by committee. The B1G didn't just sit around and keep losing when they were at their lowest 10 years ago. They got proactive and made themselves more marketable to recruits*. The conference looked out for the mid level programs too. The sips never stopped and considered what could be done to help Iowa state and improve the overall brand of the conference.

And most midwestern liberals are not nearly as bad as northeastern. Chicago scum, yes. But the regular people who's people worked in union shops have plenty in common with us. Remember, most of our grandparents were Democrats until Reagan.

The sips are the greediest most meglo fools on earth. They don't do partnerships. That is why Nebraska left. To say otherwise is revisionist history.
TwelveA
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Ugly said:

TheWoodsAg said:

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

How can anyone on here honestly criticize Nebraska for leaving the bdf!

We left and it was the best decision since integration. Ou tried to leave but failed. The other 8 would bail in a heartbeat if they could.


Because Nebraska's circumstances are nothing like ours. Where A&M fits the SEC like a glove from a cultural standpoint, Nebraska is an outlier in the B1G politically and academically. They are a group of conservative, agricultural minded people stuck with a bunch of liberal "high minded academics" who think their #%+ doesn't stink.

If you think tu is a bastion of liberal arrogant ******ry, they are right up there with Michigan, Ohio St, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Illinois. Despite the Texas arrogance, Nebraska had good neighbors in Iowa St, Kansas St and a historical rival in OU. They have nothing of the sort in the B1G.

Their experience in their new conference has been very different than ours.
Yeah, Colorado and Nebraska are probably not as thrilled with their conference moves as Missouri and Texas A&M right now.
Since we're being accurate here, the truth is Nebraska fans long for the heavily-tilted-in-their-favor setup NU had in the old Big8. NU is not pining for being back in the sip-controlled Big12 where sip told the huskers to sit down, shut up, and accept whatever the sips decided.

Huge difference.
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Nebraska is never going to have the advantages they once enjoyed in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's...regardless of what conference they are in.

the old Big 8 was a 2-team league. So many auto wins vs. the Kansas schools, OSU, ISU, and Missouri.

and of course no more partial qualifiers and no more recruiting outside the rec yard with a stopwatch. And the, um, local pharmacist doesn't get team MVP votes anymore
TwelveA
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Colorado screwed up by joining the PAC12. Geographically it is an awful fit.

The ten old "Pac10" schools also now think it was a bad fit to add CU, and they regret offering CU a chance to join. They wish it was still the Pac10.
W
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another note...not a coincidence that Nebraska's last glory run...1994-1997...took place when the OU program was an absolute disaster in the mid-90's
TwelveA
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W said:

Nebraska is never going to have the advantages they once enjoyed in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's...regardless of what conference they are in.

the old Big 8 was a 2-team league. So many auto wins vs. the Kansas schools, OSU, ISU, and Missouri.

and of course no more partial qualifiers and no more recruiting outside the rec yard with a stopwatch. And the, um, local pharmacist doesn't get team MVP votes anymore
No doubt. But most human beings, especially those of the fanatical cfb variety, are usually not rational or realistic. Thus, NU fans long for another conference scenario like the old Big8.

The sips are perpetually in a similar mindset. The sips are too gutless and scared to ever play in a loaded conference like the SEC. When sip brought in TCU & WVU to the BDF, Dodds was trying to recreate a modern version of the 1961-1974 SWC when t.u. held every possible advantage and the deck was totally stacked in their favor.
McInnis80
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With Chicago football recruits, not all that well. Hard to compete with Wisconsin, Purdue and Illinois, and can't compete with Northwestern on academics. With students, much better. For a Chicago kid, there is a lot of pressure to go to a B1G school. Many large employers pride themselves on hiring Big 10 grads, so now Nebraska now gets on that rotation. They did not get that many students from Texas, as winter in Lincoln was a hard sell to a Dallas or Houston high school grad. Texas, like Illinois, is a big exporter of college students, but Texas kids are going to schools in neighboring states, not the upper Mid West.

As noted by others, the B1G has much more of an all for one, one for all philosophy than the Big 12, which is what does it take to keep Texas happy The last school to leave the B1G was the University of Chicago, which was during the Great Depression. The Big 12 will always be what will Texas and OU do. Ohio State and Michigan are not going anywhere.

Nebraska now has a full distribution share and ownership in the BTN. They are not going to leave that much money on the table.
St Hedwig Aggie
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Wish PS, UM and the poisonous nuts had gone rogue...can't kick them all out...
AggieTFA06
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I don't think Nebraska will be entering the conference transfer portal anytime soon, especially considering that they are making far more money in the Big 10 than they did in the BDF.
To 1,000,000 touchdowns ...and beyond
greg.w.h
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Frost was running his mouth...
Aggie
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W said:

another note...not a coincidence that Nebraska's last glory run...1994-1997...took place when the OU program was an absolute disaster in the mid-90's



Both Nebraska and Oklahoma were very very good for much of the 70's and 80's until OU fell off in the 90's and then Nebraska in the early 2000's. Of course OU was on the rebound about the time Nebraska started to decline...
But if you're implying Nebraska needed OU to fall off for success, you would be 100% wrong.
They were both two of the better programs in America for 20-25+ years.
Nino Brown
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Nebraska and Oklahoma to SEC
rrtodds
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the big 12 ... even though needing one team to be able to play a 10 game season like the other big boy conferences ... would never allow Nebraska to be that needed team. If there's a team that a Texas holds in disdain ... more than the Ags, it would be the Children of the Corn.

Nebraska lead the exodus of the three original Big 8 members and joined by the one that we love who SECeded.
MidTnAg
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No conference is going to play a 10-game season. Covid will run rampant when players start congregating...4 game maximum

4 games so conferences can earn some money and save face.
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