There is a whole lot of stupid on this thread

dominicodom said:

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The full list was just released and Manziel was nowhere to be found. Absolutely disgraceful. First freshman to win the Heisman is a huge deal.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/cfb150players/the-150-greatest-players-college-football-150-year-history

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Tebow accounted for 145 TDs and 2 national titles, one Heisman, you are correct him only being ranked number 76 is the most glaring snub on this list

list is a joke.

It's ESPN and that's all you have to know. CNN picked Hilary in a landslide....modern journalism.

Manziel absolutely should be on the list. put him way down at the bottom if you have to, but you can't deny he's one of the best college football players of all time. he got people not from Cleveland to watch Browns games and non-Canadians to watch CFL games.

Abitaholic said:

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Not a snub. Tannehill is our best QB.

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Tannehill is our best NFL quarterback. Not college.

That is the issue here.

A&M was only going to get one player on the list. I like Crow over JFF in that situation.

JFF was special because he helped set us up for future success in the SEC. Without him, we are Ole Miss right now. The average college football fan won't think that deeply about that, but why would they?

ABATTBQ11 said:

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There is a whole lot of stupid on this thread

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Welcome to the off-season.

TyperWoods said:

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list is a joke.

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Please submit your own list so we can pick it apart.

Ag4coal said:

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kb2001 said:

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Wicked Good Ag said:

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No offense but he played only two years compared to most everyone else and his second year was not as dominate as the first. And this coming from a person who loved watching him do the things he did on the field

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Johnny's second year was better than his first. The record didn't reflect it because the defense was bad

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This. Outside of throwing more interceptions, Johnny was even better his second year. He . just looked ugly in the public eye. His numbers were absolutely disgusting and he did it all as a Freshman and Sophomore.

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He was statistically a better passer. Rushing numbers, while still impressive, took a dive.

I've made my own unbiased list based on being on TexAgs since 2002.

1. Johnny Manziel
2. Mike Evans
3. Bucky Richardson
4. Eric Dickerson if he would have gone to A&M
5. Chip Ambres
6. Terry Venentoulias
7. Greg Schorp
8. Dat Nguyen
9. Greg Hill
10. Leeland McElroy
11. John Kimbrough
12. Pat Thomas
13. Sam Adams
14. Marcus Buckley
15. Stormy Case
16. Adam Bob
17. Corey Pullig
18. Marcus Buckley
19. Fat Randy Bullock
20. John David Crow
21. Aaron Glenn
22. Myles Garrett
23. Tony Franklin
24. Dave Elmendorf
25. Dave South's voicebox
26. Luke Joeckel
27. Johnny Holland
28. Darren Lewis
29. Jake Matthews
30. Elroy McLeland
31. John Roper
32. Cullen Gilaspia
33. Ed Simonini
34. Kevin Smith
35. Joe Routt
36. Fred Wellborn
37. T-Ray Texas Avenue
38. George University Drive
39. Aaron Glenn
40. Brandon MItchell
41. James McKeehan
42. Toya Jones
43. Manoli Venetoulias
44. Ryan Tannehill's wife
45. Ryan Tannehill
46. Michael Bennett
47. Deshazor Everett
48. Josh Lambo
49. Josh Reynolds
50. Ricky Seals-Jones
51. Jonesy Rick-Seals
52. Sealy Jones-Ricks
53. Ricky Ticky Tavi Jones
54. Jace Sternberger
55. Armani Watts
56. Trayveon Williams
57. Tiki Hardemann
58. Sirr Parker
59. Ma'am Parker
60. Steven McGree
61. Brandon Stewart
62. Randy McCown
63. Brian Gamble
64. Roylin Bradley
65. Calvin Collins, who once broke a desk in my Geology class
66. Chris Dausin
67. Randy Dausin
68. Andre Dausin
69. Roy Young
70. Rankin Britt
71 .Dick Todd
72. Ernie Pannell
73. Marshal Robnett
74. Marion Pugh
75. Jim Thomason
76. Cullen Rogers
77. Curtis Dickey
78. Lynn Hickey
79. Gary Kubiak
80. Johnny Hector
81. Mack Moore
82. Mike Mosley
83. Miek Whitwell
84. Keith Baldwin
85. Don Jones
86. Tommy Robinson
87. Billy "Yes I know my dad was better" Cannon
88. Jimmy Teal
89. Ray "HELLO BRYAN COLLEGE STATION COME TO LAWRENCE MARSHALL" Childress
90. Doug Williams
91. Ira Valentine
92. Anthony "Yes i get the irony" Toney
93. Domingo Bryant, whose dad worked on an oil tanker with my dad in the 80s
94. Roger Vick
95. Kip Corrington
96. Rod Bernstine
97. Johnny Holland
98. Keith Woodside
99. Otto Payne
100. Odell Stautzenberger
101. Len Dickey
102. Monte "Don't call me Sydney" Moncrief
103. Jack Pardee
104. Yale Lary
105. Bob Smith
106. Roylee McLeland
107. Clif Groce
108. Vance Smith
109. Detron Smith
110. Wilbert Biggens
111. Oh yeah, I forgot about Quentin Coryatt
112. Robert Wilson
113. Eric England
114. Lance Teichlman
115. I also forgot about Richmond Webb
116. Derrick Frazier
117. Patrick Bates
118. Mike Arthur
119. Chris Ruhman
120. Steve McKinney
121. Albert "If it wasn't for me we would have lost at home to SMU in 1995" Connell
122. Rex Tucker
123. Rex Kramer
124. Ray Mickens
125. Warrick "You got to know when to" Holdman
126. Rich Coady
127. Coad Richy
128. Michael Jameson
129. Robert "Why did you have to go to Juco?" Ferguson
130. Taylor Whitley
131. Taylor Swiftly
132. Whitley Taylor
133. Rocky Bernard
134. Shane Lechler, who hit the head of the Colorado Buffalo l live mascot while it was running during warmups in the 1995 game at Boulder.
135. Ed Jasper
136. Ronald Flemons
137. Cyrus Gray
138. Sean Porter
139. Christine "yeah I get it, my parents can't spell" Michael
140. Red Bryant
141. Bryan Reddit
142. Martellus Bennett
143. Bethel Johnson
144. Sammy Davis
145. Dean Martin
146. Frank Sinatra
147. Choo Freeman
148. Tommy Preston
149. Kevin Beirne
150. Hayward Clay

MuckRaker96 said:

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I've made my own unbiased list based on being on TexAgs since 2002.

1. Johnny Manziel
2. Mike Evans
3. Bucky Richardson
4. Eric Dickerson if he would have gone to A&M
5. Chip Ambres
6. Terry Venentoulias
7. Greg Schorp
8. Dat Nguyen
9. Greg Hill
10. Leeland McElroy
11. John Kimbrough
12. Pat Thomas
13. Sam Adams
14. Marcus Buckley
15. Stormy Case
16. Adam Bob
17. Corey Pullig
18. Marcus Buckley
19. Fat Randy Bullock
20. John David Crow
21. Aaron Glenn
22. Myles Garrett
23. Tony Franklin
24. Dave Elmendorf
25. Dave South's voicebox
26. Luke Joeckel
27. Johnny Holland
28. Darren Lewis
29. Jake Matthews
30. Elroy McLeland
31. John Roper
32. Cullen Gilaspia
33. Ed Simonini
34. Kevin Smith
35. Joe Routt
36. Fred Wellborn
37. T-Ray Texas Avenue
38. George University Drive
39. Aaron Glenn
40. Brandon MItchell
41. James McKeehan
42. Toya Jones
43. Manoli Venetoulias
44. Ryan Tannehill's wife
45. Ryan Tannehill
46. Michael Bennett
47. Deshazor Everett
48. Josh Lambo
49. Josh Reynolds
50. Ricky Seals-Jones
51. Jonesy Rick-Seals
52. Sealy Jones-Ricks
53. Ricky Ticky Tavi Jones
54. Jace Sternberger
55. Armani Watts
56. Trayveon Williams
57. Tiki Hardemann
58. Sirr Parker
59. Ma'am Parker
60. Steven McGree
61. Brandon Stewart
62. Randy McCown
63. Brian Gamble
64. Roylin Bradley
65. Calvin Collins, who once broke a desk in my Geology class
66. Chris Dausin
67. Randy Dausin
68. Andre Dausin
69. Roy Young
70. Rankin Britt
71 .Dick Todd
72. Ernie Pannell
73. Marshal Robnett
74. Marion Pugh
75. Jim Thomason
76. Cullen Rogers
77. Curtis Dickey
78. Lynn Hickey
79. Gary Kubiak
80. Johnny Hector
81. Mack Moore
82. Mike Mosley
83. Miek Whitwell
84. Keith Baldwin
85. Don Jones
86. Tommy Robinson
87. Billy "Yes I know my dad was better" Cannon
88. Jimmy Teal
89. Ray "HELLO BRYAN COLLEGE STATION COME TO LAWRENCE MARSHALL" Childress
90. Doug Williams
91. Ira Valentine
92. Anthony "Yes i get the irony" Toney
93. Domingo Bryant, whose dad worked on an oil tanker with my dad in the 80s
94. Roger Vick
95. Kip Corrington
96. Rod Bernstine
97. Johnny Holland
98. Keith Woodside
99. Otto Payne
100. Odell Stautzenberger
101. Len Dickey
102. Monte "Don't call me Sydney" Moncrief
103. Jack Pardee
104. Yale Lary
105. Bob Smith
106. Roylee McLeland
107. Clif Groce
108. Vance Smith
109. Detron Smith
110. Wilbert Biggens
111. Oh yeah, I forgot about Quentin Coryatt
112. Robert Wilson
113. Eric England
114. Lance Teichlman
115. I also forgot about Richmond Webb
116. Derrick Frazier
117. Patrick Bates
118. Mike Arthur
119. Chris Ruhman
120. Steve McKinney
121. Albert "If it wasn't for me we would have lost at home to SMU in 1995" Connell
122. Rex Tucker
123. Rex Kramer
124. Ray Mickens
125. Warrick "You got to know when to" Holdman
126. Rich Coady
127. Coad Richy
128. Michael Jameson
129. Robert "Why did you have to go to Juco?" Ferguson
130. Taylor Whitley
131. Taylor Swiftly
132. Whitley Taylor
133. Rocky Bernard
134. Shane Lechler, who hit the head of the Colorado Buffalo l live mascot while it was running during warmups in the 1995 game at Boulder.
135. Ed Jasper
136. Ronald Flemons
137. Cyrus Gray
138. Sean Porter
139. Christine "yeah I get it, my parents can't spell" Michael
140. Red Bryant
141. Bryan Reddit
142. Martellus Bennett
143. Bethel Johnson
144. Sammy Davis
145. Dean Martin
146. Frank Sinatra
147. Choo Freeman
148. Tommy Preston
149. Kevin Beirne
150. Hayward Clay

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LOL

I'm cracking up here.

This list is a JOKE without Ray Childress.

"F'ck the wishbone and F'ck your list" [Ray Childress]

In case your wondering, 52 of the Top 150 won the Heisman and 33 Heisman winners didn't make the list.

101 of the 150 come from 20 schools. Notre Dame and USC have the most at 9 each.

Manziel did not DESERVE to be anywhere near the top 150. He *might* make the top 5000.


For starters, to be in the top 150 OF ALL TIME, you need to have at least 3 elite seasons. JFF had 1 really good season and one mildly above average season.

TxFig said:

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Manziel did not DESERVE to be anywhere near the top 150. He *might* make the top 5000.


For starters, to be in the top 150 OF ALL TIME, you need to have at least 3 elite seasons. JFF had 1 really good season and one mildly above average season.

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Barry Sanders had one monster season. Does he still belong?

Ray is #89, you lose at life!

TxFig said:

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Manziel did not DESERVE to be anywhere near the top 150. He *might* make the top 5000.


For starters, to be in the top 150 OF ALL TIME, you need to have at least 3 elite seasons. JFF had 1 really good season and one mildly above average season.

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can you show me these rules?

Does any of this matter?

TxFig said:

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Manziel did not DESERVE to be anywhere near the top 150. He *might* make the top 5000.


For starters, to be in the top 150 OF ALL TIME, you need to have at least 3 elite seasons. JFF had 1 really good season and one mildly above average season.

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Half the players wouldn't be on this list if there was any truth to your bullchit

TxFig said:

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Manziel did not DESERVE to be anywhere near the top 150. He *might* make the top 5000.


For starters, to be in the top 150 OF ALL TIME, you need to have at least 3 elite seasons. JFF had 1 really good season and one mildly above average season.

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I know you're trolling, but at least do your homework. You're coming off like a complete idiot with an ax to grind.

O.J. Simpson played just two years. Larry Fitzgerald played just two years. Doug Flutie was an above average college quarterback for three years and then had an outstanding senior year, which paled in comparison to both of Manziel's years. Most Heisman winners have only one elite season. Manziel's second season was better than his first. Hell, using your logic, Joe Burrow, who had the greatest year of any college quarterback ever, should not have made this list had he been eligible.

My objection to this list is not necessarily that it left Johnny off. It's that there appears to be no logic to who was left off and who was on. Should off the field issues affect the list? Fine. Then explain the inclusion of O.J., Johnny Rogers and Reggie Bush. Should it be based on an entire career and not just one year? Explain Paul Hornung (who, frankly, never even had an above average year.) Hornung might be the most overrated college player of all time, but he's on this list. This list looks like they made the easy choices for the top 50 or so and then pulled the rest of them out of a hat. What a waste of time.