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King vs Card

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UnderTheHillAg
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Just checked the rankings, how the hell did Hudson Card get such a boost in the rankings, and why did Haynes fall so much. He went from 1 to like 5 over the course of 2 months. I looked at the stats and they're virtually identical.
TxAg76
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It's called the t.u. skew....
TXAggie2011
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Hudson Card has been pretty static for awhile. He's ranked no higher than he has been for awhile.

King had a pretty meteoric rise in the rankings a few months ago. He's still a lot higher than he was 6+ months ago.

https://247sports.com/PlayerSport/Haynes-King-at-Longview-218767/RecruitRankHistory/

https://247sports.com/PlayerSport/Hudson-Card-at-Lake-Travis-216182/RecruitRankHistory/
UnderTheHillAg
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The whole star system is bull if you can just give out a 5th star that means *elite* status and then yank it away.
No Bat Soup For You
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The only thing king has going for him over Card is that he runs faster, throws better, and willed his team to a state championship.

But card has better hair and signed with sip so obviously he's the better QB.
Sponge
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Let our recruits drop and give all sips five stars. They will continue to wonder why we draft players at three times the rate.
Mookie
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He's a lake Travis QB committed to the sips.
TAM85
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Hard is a WR and likely ends up there at tu.
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rgag12
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King had a nationally televised game where he threw some picks. Team still won like 42-0 if I remember.

But his ranking started to drop after that
Ag 11
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You've never noticed the extra stars appear when they commit to the sips?
evan_aggie
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hennyj15 said:

The only thing king has going for him over Card is that he runs faster, throws better, and willed his team to a state championship.

But card has better hair and signed with sip so obviously he's the better QB.


People always get bent out of shape when sips inflate their rankings on commits or kids that should otherwise be equal. However, this does them a disservice in the long run: they get mediocre results, under develop high 4* talent when on campus, don't get as many kids drafted.

Texas disappoints year in and year out with their shenanigans.
fieldtrailer
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A new OC that doesn't run the qb read option may make Card a very good qb. He has scrambling speed to keep plays going and looks like a pocket passer. Combined with the rb recruit, could be good. Still need an oline, which is more important than the diff between the 2 qbs.

But they will also have the Duncanville qb if they keep their existing scheme or mix it up. They appear to have 2 good options.
Joe Exotic
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Herman isn't going to abandon his offense regardless of his OC. He's too much of a narcissist to do so.
BDub3
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King had a down year throwing the ball due to a loss of talent at the skill positions and a rumored throwing shoulder injury he played through all year. This is all based off senior year statistics that don't look as good as Card's.
OldShadeOfBlue
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TxAg76 said:

It's called the t.u. skew....
I'm so over people using this as an excuse for everything. King's stats dropped off significantly this season. He had a pretty weak start to the season and was dropped because of it. If you want to make excuses, look at King losing a lot of talent around him after his junior year.
levypantsEOY
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Reality has no place here, sir.
TxAg76
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OldShadeOfBlue said:

TxAg76 said:

It's called the t.u. skew....
I'm so over people using this as an excuse for everything. King's stats dropped off significantly this season. He had a pretty weak start to the season and was dropped because of it. If you want to make excuses, look at King losing a lot of talent around him after his junior year.

Comments on King are true, but this isn't a new thing, or just a Haynes King phenomenon....its been legitimately happening for years....Looch himself even makes fairly common references to it....
greg.w.h
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Win a championship and the ratings will adjust time compensate for their previous perceived inaccuracies. They don't like what placing better talent ratings with a school that underachieves suggests for their service...
Tamu_mgm
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I'll trust Jimbo's QB evaluations over Hermensa's ANY DAY OF ANY WEEK. Stop the meaningless b**ching and gnashing of teeth over things that don't matter at all.

King is a better QB prospect, and Jimbo zeroed on him to be the lone QB of this class.
halfastros81
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I thought we have one coming in from Denton as well.
technoviking
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This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.
ashley
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technoviking said:

This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.

No, he will be a running back, receiver or dB because he can't throw at all.
technoviking
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ashley said:

technoviking said:

This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.

No, he will be a running back, receiver or dB because he can't throw at all.


That's all fine and good, but he's the type of QB Herman has always used.
ashley
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technoviking said:

ashley said:

technoviking said:

This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.

No, he will be a running back, receiver or dB because he can't throw at all.


That's all fine and good, but he's the type of QB Herman has always used.

He's listed as an athlete.
ashley
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technoviking said:

ashley said:

technoviking said:

This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.

No, he will be a running back, receiver or dB because he can't throw at all.


That's all fine and good, but he's the type of QB Herman has always used.
technoviking
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ashley said:

technoviking said:

ashley said:

technoviking said:

This whole thread is funny because it's Jaquinden Jackson that's gonna be the sips QB.

No, he will be a running back, receiver or dB because he can't throw at all.


That's all fine and good, but he's the type of QB Herman has always used.

He's listed as an athlete.


..and he was recruited to tu as a QB.
Bill Superman
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King has a way higher ceiling than Card

Jimbo didn't even recruit Card
AgDotCom
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Hudson Card. Sounds like a 4* croquet or chess player.
BDub3
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Bill Superman said:

King has a way higher ceiling than Card

Jimbo didn't even recruit Card
He did offer him. But Card was a sip lean all the way. Not sure he "didn't even recruit him"
OldShadeOfBlue
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Bill Superman said:

King has a way higher ceiling than Card

Jimbo didn't even recruit Card
We definitely offered Card
PLUM LOCO
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PrideofSA said:

Just checked the rankings, how the hell did Hudson Card get such a boost in the rankings, and why did Haynes fall so much. He went from 1 to like 5 over the course of 2 months. I looked at the stats and they're virtually identical.
You must be young, Grasshopper!
vander54
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OldShadeOfBlue said:

Bill Superman said:

King has a way higher ceiling than Card

Jimbo didn't even recruit Card
We definitely offered Card


Offer and recruit are two different things.
levypantsEOY
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Dude...
CptnTight
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King looked underwhelming to say the very least in his Senior year. I don't understand all the hype for him honestly. I wouldn't be surprised if he transfers after losing the QB position to stowers after Calzada graduates
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