I think it's creepy, startling and weird.

Which is why I love it.

The dumbest thing are the Aggie zealots who are more upset about someone booing than the bad call on the field that screwed us that's being booed

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Is it time to phase out the horse laugh? I thought that was goofy 20 years ago...

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No it is not time to phase out horse laugh!

It is unique to Texas A&M - like many other things that form a different culture from everyone else.

Booing is juvenile and copycats of every other program on the planet.

Texas A&M is not like any other place on the planet and does not need to be...

When done properly and in unison the horse laugh is intimidating and lets the refs (or whomever) know the 12th Man is something to be reckoned with. It is welcomed by the team on the field in recognition of a poor call and gives them a boost for payback.

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It's stunning to me really, that so many of you wish to do away with time honored traditions; little things that some, if not most, might seem weird or strange or just plain embarrassing.

What troubles me is that as you slowly eat away at these traditions that make Texas A&M the unique, special university you chose to attend, it will eventually transform it into the very plain template of the dime a dozen big state university that you all passed over in favor of being a Texas Aggie.

Change CAN BE good. . . but change for the sake of change is never good.

Be careful of erasing your past.

And why are so many of you so concerned and worried about what those that did not have the vision, privilege and honor of attending this great institution thinks about it, or you?

Don't be afraid of being different, even a little strange. Maybe that's what brought you here in the fist place.

Embrace your Texas Aggie heritage; and before you tear it down, please pause . . . and think long and hard.

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The people and culture make A&M unique. Traditions are part of the culture, but it is okay for the culture to evolve. All cultures evolve. There may have been a time when the horse laugh held meaning, but I dont see the meaning any more. As someone already stated in this thread, if it means the same thing as booing, why do we think we are on higher moral ground by using the horse laugh over booing? If it take the place of booing, why is it less offensive? Holding on to traditions just because someone labels it a tradition is not a good reason.

The 12th Man has meaning. Elephant Walk has meaning. Muster has meaning. I dont see how dropping the Horse Laugh makes A&M less unique.

You need a dictionary and comprehension skills.

Hissing isn't a horse laugh anyway. Horse laugh is an airy laugh that shows a lot of teeth and usually a wide open mouth.

It's along the lines of Muttley's laugh in cartoons.


Snake laugh would be more accurate for the hiss.

I admit I've never been very good at spelling, but with auto correct I usually can manage without a dictionary.

Please enlighten me as to why I need comprehension skills. Or, are you one of those people that runs around calling others idiots and telling them they are wrong without providing any sort of intellectual argument to support your conclusions?

Edit: That was supposed to be directed towards LEJ.

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Wow, the yell about axing someone in the neck is awesome. We need to revitalize that one.

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New army sucks. I always do the axe 'em in the neck yell

The horse laugh induces nerd hypothermia.

See something, say something.

The only tradition that we have that's classier than the horse laugh is cussing someone out for not uncovering to show their respect for our yells. "UNCOVAAAAAAAR. TAKE YOUR ****ING HAT OFF ****HEAD! SHOW SOME RESPECT. UNCOVAAAAAAAR!"

Other than that, simulating a horse farting to show our disdain rather than booing like barbarians is our best tradition.

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The only tradition that we have that's classier than the horse laugh is cussing someone out for not uncovering to show their respect for our yells. "UNCOVAAAAAAAR. TAKE YOUR ****ING HAT OFF ****HEAD! SHOW SOME RESPECT. UNCOVAAAAAAAR!"

Other than that, simulating a horse farting to show our disdain rather than booing like barbarians is our best tradition.

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First half of your thoughts....agree 100%
Second half....disagree 100%

The horse laugh is fine. Booing is fine. If you're the kind of person who gets upset when an Aggie boos, you need professional help.

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Is it time to phase out the horse laugh? I thought that was goofy 20 years ago...

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No it is not time to phase out horse laugh!

It is unique to Texas A&M - like many other things that form a different culture from everyone else.

Booing is juvenile and copycats of every other program on the planet.

Texas A&M is not like any other place on the planet and does not need to be...

When done properly and in unison the horse laugh is intimidating and lets the refs (or whomever) know the 12th Man is something to be reckoned with. It is welcomed by the team on the field in recognition of a poor call and gives them a boost for payback.

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It's stunning to me really, that so many of you wish to do away with time honored traditions; little things that some, if not most, might seem weird or strange or just plain embarrassing.

What troubles me is that as you slowly eat away at these traditions that make Texas A&M the unique, special university you chose to attend, it will eventually transform it into the very plain template of the dime a dozen big state university that you all passed over in favor of being a Texas Aggie.

Change CAN BE good. . . but change for the sake of change is never good.

Be careful of erasing your past.

And why are so many of you so concerned and worried about what those that did not have the vision, privilege and honor of attending this great institution thinks about it, or you?

Don't be afraid of being different, even a little strange. Maybe that's what brought you here in the fist place.

Embrace your Texas Aggie heritage; and before you tear it down, please pause . . . and think long and hard.

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The people and culture make A&M unique. Traditions are part of the culture, but it is okay for the culture to evolve. All cultures evolve. There may have been a time when the horse laugh held meaning, but I dont see the meaning any more. As someone already stated in this thread, if it means the same thing as booing, why do we think we are on higher moral ground by using the horse laugh over booing? If it take the place of booing, why is it less offensive? Holding on to traditions just because someone labels it a tradition is not a good reason.

The 12th Man has meaning. Elephant Walk has meaning. Muster has meaning. I dont see how dropping the Horse Laugh makes A&M less unique.

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Long live the snake pit

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why do we think we are on higher moral ground by using the horse laugh over booing? If it take the place of booing, why is it less offensive?

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This is a social/generational thing, really, that can be applied to so many things

I like the cheer, but the "ssssss" just isn't loud enough. I'm not sure I like boo's, but I agree we need something better here.

Y'all are crazy. The horse laugh is great

I have multiple people come up to me after the game saying it scared the crap out of them cause they had no idea what it was

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There may have been a time when the horse laugh held meaning, but I dont see the meaning any more. As someone already stated in this thread, if it means the same thing as booing, why do we think we are on higher moral ground by using the horse laugh over booing? If it take the place of booing, why is it less offensive? Holding on to traditions just because someone labels it a tradition is not a good reason.

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When did I say anything about it being less offensive so that's why we should hold onto it? I could give a rat crap about any offense the opposing team or their fans by feel from our yells. Hell, I listened to "poor Aggies" from the tu faithful for years. However, I sure as hell was not going to spout off, call or write some people to complain in an effort to make it stop.

Just think about the horns and their meltdown over the "horns down" symbol. Seriously, how weak of constitution must you have to see something like that and think that running to the league to claim that your feelings have been hurt, and they need to make it stop, makes you and your university stronger in the eyes of others, much less yourself.

Booing hurt players is offensive, as well as booing your own team; that's where I draw the line. But I cringe at the word "offensive". It's a huge issue w/ the American culture today and millenials, and I guess a load of "pop" culture" seasoned peoples that buy into the "I'm offended, please show me to a safe space" nonsense.

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The 12th Man has meaning. Elephant Walk has meaning. Muster has meaning. I dont see how dropping the Horse Laugh makes A&M less unique.

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My point and reason for my post is simple . . . be VERY careful before you cast away these time honored traditions that have been a part of this great university for longer than you and I combined have been alive.
Seriously think about it.

Elephant Walk? You think in a few years many new Aggies might say, "this is just stupid"? How many Ags attend Silver Taps ( I noticed you didn't mention that tradition); is that one you wish to discard? Same could be said for Muster.

And don't get me started on "the 12th Man" tradition. So many teams, both college and pro, claim that now. How long before those following behind us decide that they would rather not offend those other institutions that are also claiming it, that I would be best if we let it go . . . because "aren't we ALL the 12th man? Or woman?".

Hold onto your traditions, even if they are not your favorite and make you cringe a little. They were a major part in building Texas A&M. . . and quite honestly, a huge part of what made us what we are today.

Change should be slow, arduous and seriously considered. After it's done, there's no bringing it back.

Pro horse's laugh. New army out of control; needs proper correction.

Why has this post not turned into a riot to bring back the Ax yell? We should have been threatening to dox yell leaders if they don't bring it back by now.

I love the horse laugh but Fraud Fran's stupid play calling taught me how to boo (him).

Now, I do both when appropriate. Booing seems very SEC like.

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Hate to break it to you, but that's not what the 2% refers to.

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Yeah, yeah, milk drinkers.. but I'd argue less than 2% of the population here even knows that.

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Y'all are crazy. The horse laugh is great

I have multiple people come up to me after the game saying it scared the crap out of them cause they had no idea what it was

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$100 says these same people come to a complete stop on the on ramp while trying to enter the freeway.

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Hold onto your traditions, even if they are not your favorite and make you cringe a little. They were a major part in building Texas A&M. . . and quite honestly, a huge part of what made us what we are today.

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Oh please. Doing weird **** doesn't define us. The horse laugh certainly does not.

I noticed I wasn't familiar with many of the yells on that Longhorn page. Why is that????????????????????????

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Oh please. Doing weird **** doesn't define us,

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You're right, it doesn't. It separates us, makes us unique...unlike others.

All I'm trying to say is change should be slow, very slow; and abandoning of traditions should be seriously considered, and they should not be just tossed aside.

Lest you will find yourselves some 20 years down the line sitting in the stands saying . . . "you remember when we used to . . . " .

Just be careful, emphasis on the word "care", when you make these big moves.

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I noticed I wasn't familiar with many of the yells on that Longhorn page. Why is that????????????????????????

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Yeah, true . . .

But tell me, how much would you absolutely love to see that, those yells in person?

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There may have been a time when the horse laugh held meaning, but I dont see the meaning any more. As someone already stated in this thread, if it means the same thing as booing, why do we think we are on higher moral ground by using the horse laugh over booing? If it take the place of booing, why is it less offensive? Holding on to traditions just because someone labels it a tradition is not a good reason.

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When did I say anything about it being less offensive so that's why we should hold onto it? I could give a rat crap about any offense the opposing team or their fans by feel from our yells. Hell, I listened to "poor Aggies" from the tu faithful for years. However, I sure as hell was not going to spout off, call or write some people to complain in an effort to make it stop.

Just think about the horns and their meltdown over the "horns down" symbol. Seriously, how weak of constitution must you have to see something like that and think that running to the league to claim that your feelings have been hurt, and they need to make it stop, makes you and your university stronger in the eyes of others, much less yourself.

Booing hurt players is offensive, as well as booing your own team; that's where I draw the line. But I cringe at the word "offensive". It's a huge issue w/ the American culture today and millenials, and I guess a load of "pop" culture" seasoned peoples that buy into the "I'm offended, please show me to a safe space" nonsense.

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The 12th Man has meaning. Elephant Walk has meaning. Muster has meaning. I dont see how dropping the Horse Laugh makes A&M less unique.

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My point and reason for my post is simple . . . be VERY careful before you cast away these time honored traditions that have been a part of this great university for longer than you and I combined have been alive.
Seriously think about it.

Elephant Walk? You think in a few years many new Aggies might say, "this is just stupid"? How many Ags attend Silver Taps ( I noticed you didn't mention that tradition); is that one you wish to discard? Same could be said for Muster.

And don't get me started on "the 12th Man" tradition. So many teams, both college and pro, claim that now. How long before those following behind us decide that they would rather not offend those other institutions that are also claiming it, that I would be best if we let it go . . . because "aren't we ALL the 12th man? Or woman?".

Hold onto your traditions, even if they are not your favorite and make you cringe a little. They were a major part in building Texas A&M. . . and quite honestly, a huge part of what made us what we are today.

Change should be slow, arduous and seriously considered. After it's done, there's no bringing it back.

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You didnt say the horse laugh is less offensive. But I recall in fish camp (about 25 years ago) being told that "Aggies dont boo", I always took that to mean that we dont boo because we are more respectful to opponents & refs, instead we hiss. If that isnt the reason for the horse laugh, I would love for someone to enlighten me.

I agree that we need to be careful to protect A&M's culture. I do not want to toss out tradition. I love our yells, but there are a lot of yells that we no longer use. Have we lost our identity and uniqueness because we dont use them any more? I believe that yells can change over time without damaging our culture.

The question is: Is the horse laugh part of being an Aggie? I would answer "No, but yells and yell leaders are.", others obviously disagree and I am not going to be able to change their minds, but I appreciate the discussion.

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Oh please. Doing weird **** doesn't define us,

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You're right, it doesn't. It separates us, makes us unique...unlike others.

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You're right about one thing. Doing weird, stupid **** definitely separates us.

It separates us from normal people and makes us look weird and stupid.

We could all rub our crotches with BBQ sauce, while sticking our finger in our ear and yell, " big daddy dildo, chig a rig a rump!" and it would separate us, too. Let's start doing that and call it a tradition so nobody will question it.

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Oh please. Doing weird **** doesn't define us,

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You're right, it doesn't. It separates us, makes us unique...unlike others.

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You're right about one thing. Doing weird, stupid **** definitely separates us.

It separates us from normal people and makes us look weird and stupid.

We could all rub our crotches with BBQ sauce, while sticking our finger in our ear and yell, " big daddy dildo, chig a rig a rump!" and it would separate us, too. Let's start doing that and call it a tradition so nobody will question it.

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This isn't that far off from the ol army squeeze.