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Bias by the recruiting services

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Jfootball2
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https://gigemgazette.com/2019/02/04/recruiting-bias-texas-ridiculous/

It was a fun read and it's the first article I've seen that talks about a lot about recruiting sites being biased. I would have liked it more though if it showed more data from previous years about Texas bias though just to prove it.
champagnepapi
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Johnny
Jfootball2
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Yessir, it's me. Johnny Football.
Bunk Moreland
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Nice writeup Luke. Be sure to post again when you write your next one.
Agsrback12
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How many receivers does tu have? 7 on 7 champs.
APHIS AG
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I really do not care what "rank" t.u. or A&M achieve in the recruiting "wars".

What does concern me are those players for us producing on the field.

JFF was a three star and yet won a Heisman and put A&M on the map while t.u. has won many recruiting "wars" with us and have produced crap on the field.

4
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Serious questions:

Are writers required to be able to actually write properly anymore? Do any of these sites employ editors? Jeez, it's like reading the text conversation of a third grader.
YankAg13
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I think the first few paragraphs got rearranged or something. This player is first mentioned only as McCoy, a couple paragraphs later he's called Bru (had me wondering who this new guy was), then it wasn't until the next paragraph until he's finally called Bru McCoy.
Aston04
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Read the "about" section of the fansided page. They are begging for just about any guy off the street to write for them. Writers are just contractors that get paid by clicks. Fansided makes bleacher report look legit.
WoodlandsTX
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Author is a high school kid

Rick Flex
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Well what he wrote was factually correct so I don't care if he was the junior high team manager.
chase128
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That article seems like it was written by a child. Awful
Bill Superman
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About damn time this was pointed out

It has been so obvious that it almost became unspoken - this this needs to be knowledge to those not paying much attention. It's an absolute joke and nearly strips the rating system of its credibility
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It was.

Go read the articles at 247. They aren't written by children, they are ostensibly written by professional journalists. The writing over there may actually be worse. No joke.
Emilio Fantastico
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All articles on fan sites are exactly what they are...

articles written by fanboys for fanboys.

To expect any different is foolish.
All_In_Ags
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txagbear
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Just looking for top 10 every year. The rest is evaluation and coaching
rootube
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The real test is who lands players who have offers from both Texas and Texas A&M. A&M is winning the head to head battles more often than not.
Agvet12
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Article makes us sound like whiny *****es ... doesn't mean it isn't true but it reads like a toddler who didn't get the candy bar he wants at HEB
TMartin
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Article doesn't matter other than a reminder about tu and everything that surrounds that program. Nothing has changed over many decades and I can't believe A&M would ever want anything to do do with them going forward.
AggieBill005
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Great write up. I hope its ok if I provide some thoughts and constructive feedback. This work is very much needed.

While we ultimately all feel that this bias is an attempt to elevate Texas over A&M to improve state and nation-wide perception of program success and superiority, the whole "Texas got a bump but A&M didn't" does come across a bit as sour grapes. But I think there is a HUGE opportunity to write a follow-up to this piece that will reduce this sentiment and appeal to a broader audience by including comparisons with a) a more national perspective and b) incorporating more data from years past. Here is why I think this is important...

a) National Perspective - Texas is not the only blue blood, but it has been "down" for the last decade, accompanied by "Texas is back" claims at any chance they get. If other blue bloods get similar kinds of bumps in ranking services, then this whole argument becomes less convincing. I could then make the point that its not a Texas bias, its a "blue blood" bias. However, I dont think this is true, and showing that Texas gets these huge bumps when other programs of repute do not, THAT is more convincing.

b) More Data - This bias is nothing new. It seems like its more extreme this year because Texas had to make up more ground to surpass A&M. This requires more obvious and blatant "bumps" and manipulations (I mean, holy ****, its just obvious this year). BUT, someone could argue that Herman is just great at finding talent, so that when Texas became interested in X recruit, that drew attention from services who then evaluated X recruit more carefully and then adjusted their reaction. Including multiple years of data I think would show that this is a systemic bias that has transcended coaching staffs and its not some kind of "Herman effect."

Just my thoughts on how to strengthen your arguments. Great work!
HortAg09
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That's because it was written by a child.



technoviking
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HortAg09 said:

That's because it was written by a child.






ironmanag
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Who care who it was written by?

He has just as many credentials as the people rating the recruits.

He used the numbers, hard facts, and the truth.

Does this ranking matter? Not really because t.u. is still stuck with Hookfin and Owens.
Aggie Class of '97 and '16, Proud father of Aggie classes of '25 and '29
longeryak
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Distribution of 5 stars is highly confirmation bias driven. During USC and the sips run last decade there were way more 5 stars in California and Texas. Now they are disproportionately heavy in the Southeast despite the large gain of Katrina refugees, and population jump in general, in Texas.
83Aggie
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https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2019/Texas

For long term success you want to win the in state battles. Jimbo in one year made the in roads with TX HS coaches. The payoff is 9 of the top 25 vs tu's 4. Leal, Green, and Williams are the type of player to build a championship caliber team.
levypantsEOY
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ironmanag said:



He used the numbers, hard facts, and the truth.



And also run on sentences, redundant modifiers, and logic leaps. So, basically, the writing of a ninth grader.
This is not something on which we should be hanging out hats.
LouisHerbertWong
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levypantsEOY said:

ironmanag said:



He used the numbers, hard facts, and the truth.



And also run on sentences, redundant modifiers, and logic leaps. So, basically, the writing of a ninth grader.
This is not something on which we should be hanging out hats.
*run-on
*our

Pot, meet kettle.
ironmanag
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Grammar nazi got told
Aggie Class of '97 and '16, Proud father of Aggie classes of '25 and '29
levypantsEOY
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I didn't publish an "article." That was a thread post in the zoo. Slightly different expectations. But carry on.
2thFixinAg
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people argue about this stuff as if it matters that much. if you finish in the top 15 4 years in a row you probably have good enough players to compete for a conference championship if not a natty.

And recruiting ranking isn't an exact science anyway.

It's a broad brush indicator. not an absolute predictor.
AggieBill005
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Well then good for him! Good opportunity to take critical feedback and learn how to use it to strengthen his work product.
Flexbone
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longeryak said:

Distribution of 5 stars is highly confirmation bias driven. During USC and the sips run last decade there were way more 5 stars in California and Texas. Now they are disproportionately heavy in the Southeast despite the large gain of Katrina refugees, and population jump in general, in Texas.
It's pretty obvious when you watch the games, pal. You don't see any Texas team that resembles the kind of speed and size they have on teams that draw most of their talent from the Southeast.
TheBro
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AustinAg2012 said:

levypantsEOY said:

ironmanag said:



He used the numbers, hard facts, and the truth.



And also run on sentences, redundant modifiers, and logic leaps. So, basically, the writing of a ninth grader.
This is not something on which we should be hanging out hats.
*run-on
*our

Pot, meet kettle.
Where's the run on sentence?
HoustonAg2106
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TheBro said:

AustinAg2012 said:

levypantsEOY said:

ironmanag said:



He used the numbers, hard facts, and the truth.



And also run on sentences, redundant modifiers, and logic leaps. So, basically, the writing of a ninth grader.
This is not something on which we should be hanging out hats.
*run-on
*our

Pot, meet kettle.
Where's the run on sentence?
I think it was a spelling issue...
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