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I love the new Kyle, but seeing that second picture brings back a ton of memories from when I was a kid. I have a memory of ALMOST that exact view from the 90's with the horseshoe in the background. While I still have a great time and love our facilities, I miss the games before the zone was built.

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Me too. Good memories.

Have a photo my Dad '53 took of my brother and I out on Kyle in the Spring of '51. Yale Larry and Bob Smith are playing with us after spring practice. We were 6 and 8 years old. Kyle was a one deck horseshoe.
Yale taught me to punt. Wally Moon who lived across the hall in Splinter Village taught me to pitch and catch.

Women still wore mums to games into the late 80's to early early 90's.

Not a lot wore them but they were still around

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Another big change was the number of former students at games. My fish year I can remember you could look over to the west side of Kyle during games and tell where the reunions were seated as they were the only ones sawing 'em off!

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Did not everyone saw em off back then, or do just mean the West side wasn't full?

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Another big change was the number of former students at games. My fish year I can remember you could look over to the west side of Kyle during games and tell where the reunions were seated as they were the only ones sawing 'em off!

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Did not everyone saw em off back then, or do just mean the West side wasn't full?

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Nope, not everyone sawed 'em off. You could see groups doing it, and it was the reunions in town.

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Women still wore mums to games into the late 80's to early early 90's.

Not a lot wore them but they were still around

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I remember this as well. I was not yet in school but went to most of the games with the folks. Dad would still get one for mom. Not every game but maybe once or twice a season I think.

Threads like this are why I keep coming back to this site thanks for posting the pictures and the stories are great.

I have both.

The Aggie "portrait" by Dirk West is in my guest bathroom.

The Buck pic is somewhere in my Aggie trunk. I have several of his drawings & most of his collections of drawings.

Schweitz has also got a few books depicting his drawings of Texas architecture, especially old German-themed Texas homes.

He's a Texas legend.

Here's some of his work on sale on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xschiwetz.TRS0&_nkw=schiwetz&_sacat=0

The Buck Schiwetz Kyle print is one of the Centennial Set that was released in 1976. I don't remember all of the prints but the set included: Gathright Hall, Old Main, MSC, Academic Building, the old president's house.

He also did a series on the Alamo and other San Antonio missions, many of the great ranches and early historic homesteads around the state.


See more of his work here:
https://fineart.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=50+790+231&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=schiwetz&limitTo=all&ic3=ViewItem-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-BrowseNewSearch-A-K-071316


More on his life:
https://www.thewittliffcollections.txstate.edu/research/a-z/schiwetz.html

aggiepublius said:

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The Buck Schiwetz Kyle print is one of the Centennial Set that was released in 1976. I don't remember all of the prints but the set included: Gathright Hall, Old Main, MSC, Academic Building, the old president's house.

He also did a series on the Alamo and other San Antonio missions, many of the great ranches and early historic homesteads around the state.


See more of his work here:
https://fineart.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=50+790+231&Ntk=SI_Titles&Nty=1&Ntt=schiwetz&limitTo=all&ic3=ViewItem-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-BrowseNewSearch-A-K-071316


More on his life:
https://www.thewittliffcollections.txstate.edu/research/a-z/schiwetz.html

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I have a full set of those prints in the original maroon case they came in. Wonder if they're worth anything?

Buck Schiwetz was commissioned to paint several drawings for A&M. He gave me that exact print as a gift. It sat rolled up for years and eventually gave it to one of my sons.

He had it framed and is on the wall in his home office.

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Women still wore mums to games into the late 80's to early early 90's.

Not a lot wore them but they were still around

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Mums were around but not a big deal at A&M. I do remember people selling them on Jersey (now George Bush) on game day,

I am not sure the value as it depends on how many were printed. As evidenced by the post here, there were a lot sold.

If I had to guess - if in great condition and all together, a couple of hundred dollars.

Art can be very cyclical as tastes change. When his original painting of the Alamo came up fore sale a few years ago, I figured it would go for much more than the $10k than it did.

"Mums were around but not a big deal at A&M."


I presume you were talking about later on. In the 50s and 60s they were a big deal.

Op. If you want to sell the second print I would I am a buyer.

I have the kyle field print as well.

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Op. If you want to sell the second print I would I am a buyer.

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Appreciate it. However I think I'll hang on to it for now.

Mums were still a big deal through the late 70's.

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Threads like this are why I keep coming back to this site thanks for posting the pictures and the stories are great.

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Yep. His father's pics brought me back a couple years ago after an absence (though STAFF shouldn't blame him for my presence).

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Threads like this are why I keep coming back to this site thanks for posting the pictures and the stories are great.

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Yep. His father's pics brought me back a couple years ago after an absence (though STAFF shouldn't blame him for my presence).

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I have some more of his pictures that I will try and post someone soon.

That would be great. There was real historic value in those pictures. Helped me think about an Aggie great-uncle who died on D-Day, see the campus that he and my grandfather knew, and generally put that time period in some context. I also thought about an old neighbor's stories of France after the invasion when I saw those pictures.

I loved the bookend nature of his campus photos before he left and after he returned.

I'll never forget his analogy of the house on fire.

Dirk was a great Lubbock artist

For a long time, The Turkey Shop in Abbott had the full set of those prints on the wall. It was one each of all the old SWC schools. I don't know if they are still there or not.

Those prints that were in the Turkey Shop are now in "Up In Smoke" BBQ in Hillsboro. On the west side of I-35. They bought the Turkey Shop out about 15 years ago and relocated to Hillsboro. I saw the prints this fall. Entire old SWC.

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"Remember the selling of Mums down Jersey Street coming into town."


Yeah, that is something you don't see anymore. I sold them my senior year but only in 2-3 dorms. My mom and my fiance got a mum every game. We were recently talking about that. Wonder when this custom died out--sometime between the mid 60s and mid 80s.

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Pretty much 1973-74.

My fish year started fall '73 and you still saw some mums and women dressed very nicely for games. Only a couple years later (the '75 season in the painting above) my memory is that mums were pretty much gone.

My class was almost half women, and I think one of the first like that. Therefore the tradition of "imported" dates to games, along with mums and getting dressed up, went away pretty quickly.

Another big change was the number of former students at games. My fish year I can remember you could look over to the west side of Kyle during games and tell where the reunions were seated as they were the only ones sawing 'em off!

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My fish year was '79. Everyone in our outfit who had a date signed up to buy a mum. Saturday morning your outfit would get a box full of mum boxes.

Not sure when it stopped, but was still going on in early '80s.

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Was class of '75 and bought mums for my girlfriends and my mom every game that they attended from 71-75. My fianc and future wife got one every game she attended in 1975. She still has some of them dried in a scrap book type of thing.
But I always remember both sides pretty much doing saw off and the 12th man towel waving became the thing that now everyone copies. Vintage years for sure.
The camaraderie seemed at lot closer then than what you feel on campus now.
And if you were traveling in your/truck or car and passed or saw another Aggie with a sticker on their truck you always gave one another the gig em. Now if you pass someone less than 30 years old with an Aggie sticker and give them the "gig em" they look at as if you are crazy or they don't acknowledge it at all most of the time.

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Unfortunately that's the price we are paying for vision 2020.

With the evolution, diversification and mainly the rapid growth of the school, a lot of the things that made it special are lost. Of course there are a lot of great new aspects that we didn't have in our day and a lot of the good things remain... but I think what being an Aggie means to us and how we viewed and related to each other is different than what it means to current students and recent graduates.

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The second is a painting by E.M. "Buck" Schiwetz, He was an Aggie architect '21 and acclaimed artist.

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Correct! The Texas A&M University Press sold the Schiwetz book. All were suitable for framing. I've got most of the prints framed and hanging in my house. That one of Kyle Field seemed the least "historic" to me. I graduated in Dec 1974 after my PhD then returned to A&M in Jan 1976 on faculty. I think the Buck Schiwetz book of Aggieland prints was published around 1976 or so. Although my Dept (AgEn) had our shop on the West side of the tracts back then, there wasn't anything but research plots & the Vet College over there. I remember the day when my Dad burned our family ranch brand on our home county board in the Kleburg Bldg that was almost still new when I was still on the faculty until I left for a research Job in irrigation in the San Jacquin Valley in California in 1979. I did make it back to Texas in 1983 to finish the last 30 years of my irrigation research career.

The prints were issued in 1976 as part of A&M's Centennial celebration.

My dad '57, had that Dirk West print in his home office, and another similar one, that someone might have
that said "Before I came to Texas A&M, I couldn't even spell Enguneer, and now I are one"

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those were great times in that stadium. I enjoyed it much more than I do the new stadium.

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Midnight Yell Practice was a lot more fun in the old horseshoe than today's highly sanitized version, too.

Heck, there were fun things to do in that stadium even when there wasn't a game taking place ...