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I'd rather see us BTHO tu and TCEH than Tennessee or Florida

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Mega Lops
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Spoken like a true dallass f*****
St Hedwig Aggie
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Aggiesincebirth said:

There is a zero percent chance that this person is an Aggie HAHAHA. What a troll job. Can we delete this thread?


Agreed...what a joke...
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TexAgAviator said:

TexanJeff said:

Really?

You would rather play in Lubbock than in Knoxville or Gainesville?

Nostalgia is a helluva drug.

Austin is a different story. Let them have their tea and cable network! They chose not to play US.
Yeah. I'm never gonna care about a Georgia team. I'll always hate the sips and tceh. I might be in the minority here but I'm not all the way on board with the SEC move. I liked travelling to semi-close road games where I had friends who went to tu, tceh etc. TBH I think that the move killed some of the fun, rowdy spirit we had and I'm afraid with how many people current admin is piling into Aggieland that John Sharp is turning us from the special thing we had into a crapfest diploma factory that's just a shell of who we used to be.

I mean, when we have Bonfire, we symbolize the burning desire of beating the ever-living hell out of... LSU?
Sounds like the same type of guy who "doesnt want to move out of my mom's house? I mean, why grow up and get into a more challenging world when I can sit here and be comfortable with my place in the world?"

Why aspire to be in the best conference? Why aspire to not be in the Puke Orange shadow? I mean, lets just hang out in the big 12 and not aspire to be better...

geez -
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TexAgAviator said:

TexanJeff said:

Really?

You would rather play in Lubbock than in Knoxville or Gainesville?

Nostalgia is a helluva drug.

Austin is a different story. Let them have their tea and cable network! They chose not to play US.
Yeah. I'm never gonna care about a Georgia team. I'll always hate the sips and tceh. I might be in the minority here but I'm not all the way on board with the SEC move. I liked travelling to semi-close road games where I had friends who went to tu, tceh etc. TBH I think that the move killed some of the fun, rowdy spirit we had and I'm afraid with how many people current admin is piling into Aggieland that John Sharp is turning us from the special thing we had into a crapfest diploma factory that's just a shell of who we used to be.

I mean, when we have Bonfire, we symbolize the burning desire of beating the ever-living hell out of... LSU?


Last time I checked we play more games in the state of Texas and travel fewer miles to away games than other schools in the state thanks to being in the SEC. I believe that hasn't changed.

And next season we are playing Clemson, UGA, and Bama. It doesn't get more exciting than that.
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We don't have to leave the SEC to schedule a game against and beat our true rivals every year. While the move to play deep south powerhouses yearly like Alabama, Auburn, Lsu and/or Florida, Georgia has been a benefit somewhat financially, and keeps the standard of competition high, I simply do not understand how anyone who ever either attended bonfire (are all on this forum under 20?) sang the Aggie War Hymn (The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, That Is The Song They Sing So Well, Sounds Like Hell - oh, and also so long to the orange and the white - oh, and saw varsity's HORNS off) while eating Turkey/Dressing/Cranberry sauce could ever be a puss-in-boots enough not to want to play this historically rical school in every sport and most importantly football. Look, forget about history and keep up with the warped thought process, telling the small and tragically delusional fan-base that inhabits this forum that "We are Texas Aggies, and We Don't Care About Ever Playing a Rival That We Sing About In Our Fight Song!"......and see how silly that sounds.
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SBDavis87 said:

We don't have to leave the SEC to schedule a game against and beat our true rivals every year. While the move to play deep south powerhouses yearly like Alabama, Auburn, Lsu and/or Florida, Georgia has been a benefit somewhat financially, and keeps the standard of competition high, I simply do not understand how anyone who ever either attended bonfire (are all on this forum under 20?) sang the Aggie War Hymn (The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, That Is The Song They Sing So Well, Sounds Like Hell - oh, and also so long to the orange and the white - oh, and saw varsity's HORNS off) while eating Turkey/Dressing/Cranberry sauce could ever be a puss-in-boots enough not to want to play this historically rical school in every sport and most importantly football. Look, forget about history and keep up with the warped thought process, telling the small and tragically delusional fan-base that inhabits this forum that "We are Texas Aggies, and We Don't Care About Ever Playing a Rival That We Sing About In Our Fight Song!"......and see how silly that sounds.


Sip ahoy!
Houstonag
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I could care less about ever playing the sips again. Just like our AD stated he has more of a concern trying to beat the rivalries to the East as opposed to the sips. Besides we all know that the schedules are set far out or we would have to cancel an existing commitment to play the sips. That is a question of honor and I do not care about being like LSU and few others who cancelled on us when we were whipping their butts.

Herman knows that he needs to add credibility to his local schedule in order to compete in recruiting. Now that we have Fisher he knows he is losing as of today. Just playing us gives him credibility of course the sips are more jealous of TAMU as whole then they have ever been.
HoustonAg2014
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that under the current administration (of the guys in charge, only one is an Aggie grad) we will not play the horns while they are in charge.

I cannot say with certainty that we will ever play baylor, tech, ou, ect. but I just don't see it happening. There are too many bad stories to tell from the days of playing them in the past and this administration is looking national for football opponents. We are interested in playing teams that we haven't had the opportunity to travel too for OOC games.

They realize that we never really cared to travel to the big 12 schools, however, we flock to the OOC games and SEC games because of the excitement of the locations. That is the bottom line.
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SBDavis87 said:

We don't have to leave the SEC to schedule a game against and beat our true rivals every year. While the move to play deep south powerhouses yearly like Alabama, Auburn, Lsu and/or Florida, Georgia has been a benefit somewhat financially, and keeps the standard of competition high, I simply do not understand how anyone who ever either attended bonfire (are all on this forum under 20?) sang the Aggie War Hymn (The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, That Is The Song They Sing So Well, Sounds Like Hell - oh, and also so long to the orange and the white - oh, and saw varsity's HORNS off) while eating Turkey/Dressing/Cranberry sauce could ever be a puss-in-boots enough not to want to play this historically rical school in every sport and most importantly football. Look, forget about history and keep up with the warped thought process, telling the small and tragically delusional fan-base that inhabits this forum that "We are Texas Aggies, and We Don't Care About Ever Playing a Rival That We Sing About In Our Fight Song!"......and see how silly that sounds.
For the life of me, I cannot understand how some Ags are so willing to give texas exactly the boost they need instead of letting them suffer in their current position. I just don't get this thinking
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Yeah. I'm never gonna care about a Georgia team. I'll always hate the sips and tceh. I might be in the minority here but I'm not all the way on board with the SEC move. I liked travelling to semi-close road games where I had friends who went to tu, tceh etc. TBH I think that the move killed some of the fun, rowdy spirit we had and I'm afraid with how many people current admin is piling into Aggieland that John Sharp is turning us from the special thing we had into a crapfest diploma factory that's just a shell of who we used to be.

I mean, when we have Bonfire, we symbolize the burning desire of beating the ever-living hell out of... LSU?


I totally disagree and I'm relieved that your opinion is not an all reflective of a majority of Aggies.

We should have been in the SEC all along from the get go. If I could change one thing in football history, it would be that we would have been a founding member of the SEC.

Honestly, it sounds like you should have gone to Tech or Baylor instead of A&M.
C Loves L
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There is no way the OP is this stupid
LEJ
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Give them nothing... and take from them everything.
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HunterAggie
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I'm not going to dog-pile on the few people on this thread that are expressing the minority opinion as it is their right to do so.

We all have days where we dream of days gone by.

But that's all they are - memories.

It will never be the way it was, Yet, IMHO, we are in a new era that looks to be the most exciting college football a Texas A&M fan could ever enjoy.

So my advice is to enjoy it. You just might get a National Championship out of this next 10 years. Something we haven't heard of since 1939. And to get there, we are going to have to beat 4-5 incredible teams that season. So it will be that much sweeter when it does occur.
HunterAggie

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Doubtful the OP is a businessman. We're making WAY too much money in the SEC not mention that I'm able to see EVERY game in TV while living in Arizona. Man, I miss the BDF conference........ NOT!!!!!
"A life lived for others is a life worthwhile" - Albert Einstein
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I mean, when we have Bonfire, we symbolize the burning desire of beating the ever-living hell out of... LSU?

OP, do you know what the best way we could beat the ever-living hell out of tu was?

Outsmart them at their own game, by leaving them in an almost irrelevant (OU the exception) conference, with their even less relevant bevo channel, and move to the SEC. They are no longer the big brother. They are the ones on the back foot struggling to keep up with us. They are the ones seeing 4 and 5 star recruits pick us because of our coaches, facilities, and conference affiliation. They are the ones unsure of the future.

Best ever living ass kicking we ever laid on them. How could we ever top that? Nope....if they want to play us again, let them make the playoffs or bowl game.
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We should be able to at least have an honest discussion. Most of you should at least get the nostalgia, especially those of us who were around for RC or before.

One of my great memories was at Memorial Stadium (yeah, i nixed the "D") in Austin in 2010 as Michael Hodges and the rest of the punt team encircled the ball and waited for the clock to zero out. Then the FTAB started playing War Hymn as the sips were pouring out. Very few of them stuck around to sing their lousy song. They could not believe that the mighty Mack Brown was not even going to a toilet bowl

And it struck me "Goodbye to texas university" was probably conceived of watching beaten sips leaving a stadium with their tails between their legs.

Beating tech and baylor was almost as pleasurable.
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That said. Loftin made the right call.

1. We play better, more interesting, more televised schedules

I remember in the old Big 12, we usually played 3, maybe 4 games of national interest a year. We were lucky if half our games were televised. It seemed that baylor, tech and okie lite were not televised half the time. Same with a lot of our less interesting games against North opponents.


2. The sips were never going to allow a fair fight or true power-sharing

This was the bigger issue. The analogy I have is of that evil British character in the old lost in space series-always trying to get over, by hook or crook.

In summer 2010, they told us on a Friday to pack our bags b/c we were all going to the PAC. They told us we had until Sunday to sign the agreement, or they would never schedule us again. That happened.



It is unfortunate that Deloss Dodds and his cronies did what they did. But, they did. Our administration maneuvered around them masterfully and put us in a position to sustain success.

The problem with nostalgia is that it tends to forget or minimize the bad. I do not ever want to go back to one program dictating to an entire conference.

We got over on them. Sure, it was not as awesome as repaying Pearl Harbor with atomic bombs and watching their women and children slowly die from the radiation...but we still got over. The SEC move turned the tables on them.

Now their twinkle-toed coach is whining to the press that their conference schedule is lousy. We will continue to beat them in recruiting, because of the SEC brand.


They started it, but we won. Try to remind yourself of that. Also try to remember how crappy it was when we could not recruit and could not get our games on television. We won!
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Ah yes. The hazards of posting an unpopular opinion on TexAgs. Don't let em get to ya B-man. The only thing this place loves more than our own own goofy opinions is a dogpile on a person with one that differs.

I love being in the SEC. MUCH more than the Big 12. I felt the same way about that conference vs. the SWC as you do now about this move.

Great thread below about the Holiday Bowl. SWC greatness, the Wrecking Crew. It's hard not to be nostalgic. I hear ya.
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C Loves L said:

There is no way the OP is this stupid


He's not stupid.

OP - Yeah, we don't have the history with the new guys we do with the old SWC schools.


But this was a 100 year decision.


It WILL take time to develop NEW history. Transition sucks.


What's more, we didn't just get a divorce, but an ugly, bitter divorce with many lawyers and even more jealousy. The Big 12 behaved very undignified.


Those memories will take at least a generation to fade.
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I'm going to take the emotional rivalry thing out of it and make a rational argument.

If you want to go the playoff, you want an easy as possible schedule while playing in a power 5 conference. At the end of the regular season Ohio State played 4 teams that finished in the top 16 and went 2-2 against them. Bama played 1 team that finished in the top 16 and went 0-1 against them. Their best win was against a 9-3 LSU team that lost to Troy.

Bama had a less risky schedule and more wins because of it. So what is our incentive to schedule better? The best choice is still loss avoidance and the best way to do that is to beat up on garbage teams that you pay to lose. In fact, the committee is clearly telling us that we should probably get out playing Clemson and Notre Dame and replace them with Kansas and Rutgers because schedule doesn't matter; only W/L does.
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I know it's been a few years, but I still can't get excited about these SEC teams. Nothing gives me more joy than to watch active dumpster fires in Austin or Lubbock, and I miss that. I don't get the careless attitude a lot of posters have on here in regards to opening back up those awesome in-state games in favor of taking on a Tennessee or a South Carolina or even a Miss St. Wish that the admin would get their stuff together and schedule some fun to watch OOC games instead of ULM and NW st.
While we're at it, why don't we rebuild old Kyle Field?

(the good ol' days)
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I honestly never thought it like this. You have a pretty good point if we're being honest.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
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I'd be very happy if we could replace all the Northsouthern State Techs with Army/Navy/Air Force.
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BaileyAg, sips would benefit by playing us again but then again so would we. To think otherwise would simply be ignoring the facts. Our games are sellouts so anyone who schedules us is going to benefit. However, for the hotels and eateries and bars to get standing room only and sellouts which benefit the entire Bryan College Station community we should schedule a nearby rival and have the challenge settled yearly win lose or draw. The recruiting is more on an even playing field now that we are in the SEC and the big12" Is exposed as being the remaining two.
However, we need them just like they need us. There is no reason to continue to ignore history past this 2019 recruiting season and not to beat the hell outta tu.....
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I have to disagree with this. They for sure had weak spots in their schedule but so did several other teams.

Bama played a Florida State team that had a Heisman contender who got hurt in the 4th quarter. They were a top 10 team at the time they played. I don't care if the team ended up only winning 6 regular season games, that was a talented football team who lost all motivation after playing Bama, NC State, and Miama while also losing their head coach half way through the season.

They also beat Mississippi State who would have been 9-3 had their star QB not had a disgusting injury against Ole Miss (the only reason they lost). With that win it would have been a 10 win Mississippi State team but they still won 9 after the bowl. LSU won 9 games and had a really bad loss to Troy.

They lost 1 game after being number 1 in the country all season destroying everyone in their path. That game was against a hated rival on the road against a top 10 team who was rolling.

They deserved to be in the playoff no questions asked and continued to win the whole damn thing.
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However, we need them just like they need us.
Wait, what?
Sublette County
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Jesus Christ we have some goobers as fans. I know some of these are trolls, but some are serious.
Bucketrunner
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Never. Our season tickets would sit empty for such a farce. And they might not be renewed the next year.


We have moved on. Our opponents and destinations are much better. Football in the fall, in the South, in the SEC, is beyond wonderful. Yes, tu and tech would be cute little cupcake games, but we don't need to pay them to come and be that. It's better to help schools with smaller athletic budgets.
SBDavis87
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Texas A&M taught it's first classes in 1876.
Texas as a University wasn't founded on anything other than paper until 1881 when their first class was taught.
They had the audacity to call themselves "THE" university of texas.

The rivalry is about that.
Geez, we do have a lot of goobers who are absolutely delusional.
Harsh REALITY: You can't "beat the hell out of tu" unless you play tu.
You can't sing "so long to the orange and the white" unless you are thinking about the history above.

Texass Bite, Texass Bite.....Texas Jump up and Bite my @ss! (now, sing that - doesn't it make you feel good?)
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TexAgAviator said:

I know it's been a few years, but I still can't get excited about these SEC teams. Nothing gives me more joy than to watch active dumpster fires in Austin or Lubbock, and I miss that. I don't get the careless attitude a lot of posters have on here in regards to opening back up those awesome in-state games in favor of taking on a Tennessee or a South Carolina or even a Miss St. Wish that the admin would get their stuff together and schedule some fun to watch OOC games instead of ULM and NW st.
You are aware that we are playing a Home and Home with Clemson, right? 2nd week of the season, they'll be at Kyle. Has that been passed along to you yet? Clemson. You do know who they are, right? Been to the CFB playoffs the past 3 years, won it once...that Clemson. We also just finished a Home and Home with UCLA, but yeah, let's focus on the cream puffs everybody plays.
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SBDavis87 said:

We don't have to leave the SEC to schedule a game against and beat our true rivals every year. While the move to play deep south powerhouses yearly like Alabama, Auburn, Lsu and/or Florida, Georgia has been a benefit somewhat financially, and keeps the standard of competition high, I simply do not understand how anyone who ever either attended bonfire (are all on this forum under 20?) sang the Aggie War Hymn (The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, That Is The Song They Sing So Well, Sounds Like Hell - oh, and also so long to the orange and the white - oh, and saw varsity's HORNS off) while eating Turkey/Dressing/Cranberry sauce could ever be a puss-in-boots enough not to want to play this historically rical school in every sport and most importantly football. Look, forget about history and keep up with the warped thought process, telling the small and tragically delusional fan-base that inhabits this forum that "We are Texas Aggies, and We Don't Care About Ever Playing a Rival That We Sing About In Our Fight Song!"......and see how silly that sounds.
wow - were your other seven posts so intelligent?
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SBDavis87
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Yes, except for typos.
dixichkn
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SBDavis87 said:

Texas A&M taught it's first classes in 1876.
Texas as a University wasn't founded on anything other than paper until 1881 when their first class was taught.
They had the audacity to call themselves "THE" university of texas.

The rivalry is about that.
Geez, we do have a lot of goobers who are absolutely delusional.
Harsh REALITY: You can't "beat the hell out of tu" unless you play tu.
You can't sing "so long to the orange and the white" unless you are thinking about the history above.

Texass Bite, Texass Bite.....Texas Jump up and Bite my @ss! (now, sing that - doesn't it make you feel good?)


Um........no. Just THINKING about those asshats makes me happier than ever that we left.

I get the nostalgia argument to a point. Fun to look back sometimes. I had some great times in high school too. Doesn't mean I wanna go back to those days. I've moved on. We all should. If you can't see the inherent advantage of playing in the premier conference in the country......then maybe you shouldn't really be discussing sports
aTm2004
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SBDavis87 said:

We don't have to leave the SEC to schedule a game against and beat our true rivals every year. While the move to play deep south powerhouses yearly like Alabama, Auburn, Lsu and/or Florida, Georgia has been a benefit somewhat financially, and keeps the standard of competition high, I simply do not understand how anyone who ever either attended bonfire (are all on this forum under 20?) sang the Aggie War Hymn (The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, That Is The Song They Sing So Well, Sounds Like Hell - oh, and also so long to the orange and the white - oh, and saw varsity's HORNS off) while eating Turkey/Dressing/Cranberry sauce could ever be a puss-in-boots enough not to want to play this historically rical school in every sport and most importantly football. Look, forget about history and keep up with the warped thought process, telling the small and tragically delusional fan-base that inhabits this forum that "We are Texas Aggies, and We Don't Care About Ever Playing a Rival That We Sing About In Our Fight Song!"......and see how silly that sounds.


For those of us who don't measure our dicks by everything the sips do, eff 'em. We left the game on the table and Dodds threw his little tantrum and marched home with his ball. Now, they want to play us because they see that our new coach is loads better than their new coach, our conference games far out match theirs, and our conference actually has a future where the BDF is slap fighting the PAC for worst in P5.
 
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