Would somebody post these so we can sound off to them. This is not the CIA where everybody does what the boss says or else. He's managed to piss off the blacks and piss off the whites. I want to vent to someone who makes the decisions. Anyone know their addresses??? Really.

Be sure to post your email when you send them... I need to be entertained this afternoon...

BOARD OF REGENTS
THE TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY SYSTEM
2003 - 2005

Name Term Expires *


Lowry Mays 2007
Chairman, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
200 East Basse Road
San Antonio, TX 78209
E-mail: LLowryMays@clearchannel.com

Erle Nye 2009
Vice Chairman, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
Energy Plaza
1601 Bryan Street, 41st Floor
Dallas, TX 75201-3411
E-mail: erlenye@txu.com

Phil Adams 2007
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
3000 Briarcrest Drive, Suite 508
Bryan, TX 77802
E-mail: padamsco@tca.net

Anne Armstrong 2003
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
Armstrong Ranch
Armstrong, TX 78338

Wendy Gramm, Ph.D. 2007
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
P.O. 1559
Helotes, TX 78023
E-mail: wgramm@gmu.edu

Lionel Sosa 2005
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
215 Rohde Lane
Floresville, TX 78114
E-mail: lionel@garcialks.com

R. H. (Steve) Stevens, Jr. 2005
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
5599 San Felipe, Suite 1425
Houston, TX 77056

John D. White 2009
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
10001 Woodloch Forest Drive, Suite 350
The Woodlands, TX 77380
E-mail: jwhite@joneswalker.com

Susan Rudd Wynn, M.D. 2005
Member, Board of Regents
The Texas A&M University System
5929 Lovell Avenue
Fort Worth, TX 76107
E-mail: srwynn@pol.net


[This message has been edited by Twelfthman99 (edited 1/9/2004 2:49p).]

Ruh-roh....

Hey, where's Stevie's email?

Steve and Ann Armstrong don't post their email addresses.

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I want to vent to someone who makes the decisions.

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And I for one, hope that members of our Board of Regents have the wisdom to not waste their time trying to appease hotheads who are "venting", and instead devote their efforts to rational discussions that might result in a greater university.

And for the record, I think Dr. Gates is doing a terrific job, and I agree with his decision to eliminate legacy admissions. It's inconsistent with the stated policy of earning your way on your own merits.

I highly doubt that they will even read the emails, emails sent to those addresses are most likely read by a secretary.

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In fact, legacy has been
a formal part of A&M's admissions process only since 1989 and has
played far less of a role in admissions than either Aggies or
others probably believe.

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Legacy should not be a factor in any way to determine entry into Texas A&M... it is beneath us...plus it has only been around since 1989. Come on people

[This message has been edited by TorcanoAG2004 (edited 1/9/2004 4:12p).]

Nah, I'm sure Mays goes home and checks that actual email account.

The legacy admission policy is old school, and Gates is correct in nuking it. How about we just admit people based on merit? Is anyone else with me here?

This would obviously be a non-issue if certain people didn't cry "racism" and create a tempest in a teapot. There are so few people whose admittance depends on "legacy" that it isn't worth all this fuss. If the number was in the 1,000 range, then it might make a difference.

I too am glad to see the legacy system go, it's inconsistent with our approach to admissions. I have an infant daughter and one day i sure hope she decides to go to A&M, I also hope it's a lot harder to get in than it was when I applied in 95. I also want her to get in because she's earned it, not because I went.

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And for the record, I think Dr. Gates is doing a terrific job, and I agree with his decision to eliminate legacy admissions. It's inconsistent with the stated policy of earning your way on your own merits.

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So do we get rid of the bonus points for lack of education by one's parents, too?

Keegan, I believe that is only for "scholarship purposes" -

Texas A&M is in the 21st Century, despite the fact that we have 82% white students. If you desire an all white organization, the Ku Klux Klan has openings and you can probably apply on their website. http://www.kkklan.com.

Get ready for change, change and more change. Included in that change is the possibility of winning the national championship, but not without major changes in the underlying foundation at Texas A&M.

Gig'em Ol Army '65, you're right on.

I'm happy with our direction as a university - don't worry... I'm on board.

But the day people get their college paid for while I can't get a cent, because my dad has busted his ass for 30 years is when I get pissed off about things.

I agree with all these changes being made, but our student make-up is not that far out of whack compared to other large public universities. I was looking at the University of Wisconsin - Madison's enrollment the other day. This liberal mecca of an institution is 90% white!..... t.u.'s ethnicity is not that much different than ours either.......

The difference between us and tu is the Asian minority. They don't reflect the state population much better than us.

Why don't Asians flock to College Station? I thought that most of the Asians were very good students and hard workers. In addition, it is my basis understanding that a lot of them are technical, engineering, mathmatical types. What is the deal?

Hey, we got Dat Nguyen!!

Think about this. If you or your kids were raised right (like Aggies) then your merit should be enough to get you in.

Well, reads like Dr. Gates is ready to take some bold steps regarding our traditions.

Let's have another one.

Let's commit that as soon as all the lawsuits are over, that we WILL have BONFIRE on campus!

Fran, Bill and Bob have the school righted and headed in the proper direction.

The problem with all this hoopla is that the margibal white students are going to get hurt and the poor black students are still not going to get into Texas A&M. If any of you even think wealthy white staudents are really not going to get into any college, you are living on some other planet. This particular plan may have helped some marginal white students that may have never gotten in without those points but because somebody screamed racism, those students are going to be left out. The wealthy students will always get in. And if you think business and jobs doesn't reward it's patrons, wake up. That's what's all about. I don't know why Colemon is trying to protect anybody from what the real world is all about.

I agree that the points for the economically disadvantaged and lack of parental education should be eliminated. Everyone knows that there are more minorities in these categories and it's one way that race can be factored in without directly stating it. Yes, there are a few white applicants in these categories; therefore, it's not totally exclusive, but the numbers are insignificant.

I believe minority politicians would be better served working to correct the problems in their communities that either 1) produce ill-prepared students for college or 2) kids that have no interest in college at all.

I am not stating whether or not I am pro or anti the legacy points in this post.

But, some of you are acting like Legacys were just given free admission and that they walked into A&M bc of their parents. Or even worse, that they didnt earn their spot just as everyone else did.

It is a 100 point scale and legacy is only worth 4 points. Legacy or not, you have to have something else going for you or you are not getting in.

Well, if it's "only...4 points", then I guess it's OK.

Get rid of all this crap on both sides of the issue. Don't ask for race to be filled out on the application, and accept everyone based SOLELY on merit. The 10% rule should probably go, too, while we're at it.

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I agree that the points for the economically disadvantaged and lack of parental education should be eliminated. Everyone knows that there are more minorities in these categories and it's one way that race can be factored in without directly stating it.

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Theres a larger number of poor uneducated whites than minorities, minorities just have a larger %. So basically you dont have a clue what you're talking about.

Double post

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I think legacies deserve to be awarded points because every legacy I know has bled maroon since birth. They aren't just given points because their parents went to A&M, it is far deeper than that. They have called themselves Aggies and known where they were going to college since elementary school. I think they have earned the right for their legacy status to be considered in the admissions process.

I must admit, I find it hard to believe that anyone would have a problem with the abolition of the legacy policy. If you don't want minorities slipping in through the back door because of lower admissions requirements and skin color, how can you justify anyone else doing it just because their parents were alumni?

If the children of alumni truly "bleed maroon", like some have posted here, then they should bust their a** like everyone else and try and get in through the front door. That is the "Aggie" thing to do. In this life, we get what we earn.

If they went to a top-notch highschool where it is next to impossible to finish in the top 10% of their class, have them go to a JUCO and transfer in later.

TAF




[This message has been edited by RightWingConspirator (edited 1/10/2004 11:41a).]

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He's managed to piss off the blacks and piss off the whites.

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Some of each, maybe. You're in the minority. Believe it.