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I was confident and I admit that I shouldn't have gone quite that far. I still think that they are the best team in the SEC and should've won it. Saban and his players have been very disappointing this year.
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Onionman said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

I was wrong on one prediction. We all do that sometimes. Not even the ESPN guys who get paid millions a year get it all correct. That's no reason to discredit other things that I say. I still think that Georgia thumps Aurburn and then Alabama makes it to the playoffs, but we'll see.
Fair enough. And I think you are wrong to get so involved and worried over this 1 recruit.

The guy may still commit to A&M and/or might end up being a bust. Why worry so much over this 1 recruit?
That's definitely a fair point. I'm worried because he was our highest rated commit and decommitted when we hired Jimbo. I don't want any guys to follow him, and I don't want to have to replace him with a player who isn't as good. There's definitely still an ok chance that we get him though.
I thought Max Wright was our highest rated guy?

As for Bama, they didn't seem as dominant and complete to me as they have been in the past. But to be honest, I don't think there is a clear dominant team this year. The championship is up for grabs, IMO.
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Guy is a clown... kneeling and always trying to be center of attention...
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.
Maybe you're right; then again, fellow 3-Stars JFF and Ryan Swope said, "Hello!"

There's a team psychology in play when you go for elite recruits.

Former basketball legend Dean Smith/UNC was asked why he didn't win in the Elite 8 with all the elite talent on his team. After a long pause, he said I have to go and recruit some players that can't play basketball. .... In short, if there are only, or very large majority, elites on the team and no teammates (3 Stars) that have to work overly hard in practice just to play - the elites will not develop to their fullest potential, per Smith. I'm not a Psychologist and this reasoning by Smith makes sense (can't argue his on the court success).

HSFootallAg24, you may agree or disagree with the psychology, and Alabama may have experienced the same situation this year as Smiths NCAA Elite 8 Team of 86-87 loaded with McDonald's All-Americans and two "Mr. Basketball" players from their respective states, 32-4 Overall & 14-0 Conf.

Yet, A&M had numerous 3-Stars over the years that turned out to be awesome - one was the GOAT.

For me, I'll leave the eye for talent to Jimbo & company.

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HSFootballAg24 said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

"but I do not stand 100% with the coaching change as of now", he said.

And nobody gives a chit, kid.
I do. I want Leon O'Neal

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If Leon does not want to play for Jimbo Fisher, that is his prerogative. Kind of a head scratcher, though.
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Good player. But A&M can't sweat it. Keep moving forward.
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Onionman said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

I was wrong on one prediction. We all do that sometimes. Not even the ESPN guys who get paid millions a year get it all correct. That's no reason to discredit other things that I say. I still think that Georgia thumps Aurburn and then Alabama makes it to the playoffs, but we'll see.
Fair enough. And I think you are wrong to get so involved and worried over this 1 recruit.

The guy may still commit to A&M and/or might end up being a bust. Why worry so much over this 1 recruit?
Auburn looked good early, but Georgia won in a blowout like I thought.
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Per his Twitter:


He's rated as the 83rd best player and 7th best safety per composite in the class of 2018. This is a huge loss as he was our highest rated commit and a damn good safety.


Why aren't we going after the #1 rated safety?
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
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4 pages over a safety.

He comes or he doesn't. Jimbo will be here

He'll find another kid who wants to go the one of the top universities in the world.

Leave this kid alone. It's not worth 4 pages of effort imo
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He is open to possibility to coming back. Be patient
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Jimbo puts heavy emphasis on defense.
That said, we could very well end up with something BETTER than Leon before signing day gets here.

Worry, I shall not.
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
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"Leon is gone." Maybe not.
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marble rye said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

"but I do not stand 100% with the coaching change as of now", he said.

And nobody gives a chit, kid.


The ever elusive Daylon/Malik decommit combo.
Yep. That was the last year I obsessed over recruiting. Twitter changed everything and now I honestly couldn't care less who we miss out on. Half that arrive never pan out anyway.

Get here and prove yourself on the field or wind up talking about the glory days of Cypress Springs football 40 years from now.
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Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.


This. I trust Jimbo a whole lot more than some kid when it comes to evaluating talent.
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CoachLB said:

"Leon is gone." Maybe not.
What you know Coach?
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I hear he is going to sign in Feb. A&M is not out of it. And i just believe if Fisher wants him he will get him. I don't know his high school coach or anything. But I just believe holding off until Feb to sign is in A&Ms favor.
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He says in his interview he just wants to see where he'll fit in (if he fits in). He'll be back if fisher wants him.

Good, smart kid. Interview was hour ago or so.
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Good stuff CoachLB & FishingAggie
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Cstrickland05 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.


This. I trust Jimbo a whole lot more than some kid when it comes to evaluating talent.
I trust the ratings services and the 33 coaching staffs that offered Leon O'Neal more than I trust Jimbo. He's probably right on most things, but O'Neal is better than the safety from Bossier City.
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Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
You used to be cool. Did our latest season cause your BAS to flare?

There are many people who agree with me. Look at the offers and the rankings. Jimbo Fisher is a damn good coach, but he certainly isn't infallible.
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I don't have a dog in this fight but. You recruit players who fit the schemes you play. If Fisher wants Leon great. If not great. It has nothing to do with the kid being a great player or not. Maybe Fisher had different needs at Florida St than he has here at A&M. If he recruits Leon now great. If he does not it does not mean the kid is not a great player.
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Onionman said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

I was wrong on one prediction. We all do that sometimes. Not even the ESPN guys who get paid millions a year get it all correct. That's no reason to discredit other things that I say. I still think that Georgia thumps Aurburn and then Alabama makes it to the playoffs, but we'll see.
Fair enough. And I think you are wrong to get so involved and worried over this 1 recruit.

The guy may still commit to A&M and/or might end up being a bust. Why worry so much over this 1 recruit?
Auburn looked good early, but Georgia won in a blowout like I thought.
Yes, you did call that one.
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
You used to be cool. Did our latest season cause your BAS to flare?

There are many people who agree with me. Look at the offers and the rankings. Jimbo Fisher is a damn good coach, but he certainly isn't infallible.


It's really just your argumentative and know-it-all posting that rubs people the wrong way. For a 15 year old kid to call a national championship winning head coach, who has been coaching football and evaluating talent longer than you've even been on this earth, "an idiot" just reeks of teenage superiority. And then you double down and accuse people of blind faith because they trust Jimbo's judgement of the situation. You don't win friends that way.

You're a smart and passionate kid. But whatever good points you bring up are quickly forgotten because you think you know better than everyone else. Experience is a hell of a teacher; some of us (like Jimbo) have a lot of it. Maybe be willing to be wrong and not so definitive (like guarantees).

And one more thing: Life isn't a debate tournament. You can have all the right answers, and still be all wrong for the job.
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Yeah. Thanks for reminding me btw about my preseason prediction. I had honestly forgot about that. Hopefully, I won't be that confident in the future.
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Texags. Where the beta male thinks he really matters lol
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HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
You used to be cool. Did our latest season cause your BAS to flare?

There are many people who agree with me. Look at the offers and the rankings. Jimbo Fisher is a damn good coach, but he certainly isn't infallible.


Read the words that I write:

I don't give a **** what you or anyone else thinks about who we are pursuing or not. I never said Jimbo is infallible.

However, there are four active head coaches that have won a national championship in FBS Football. You, and probably most, if not all, of the "people" that are talking about Leon are not one of those coaches.

Kick rocks, youngster. We are tired of your whining and your pining for this Leon kid. Seriously, it's a bit disturbing.

Go eat some cookies and drink some milk. The adults are going to have a discussion now, sport.
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Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
You used to be cool. Did our latest season cause your BAS to flare?

There are many people who agree with me. Look at the offers and the rankings. Jimbo Fisher is a damn good coach, but he certainly isn't infallible.


Read the words that I write:

I don't give a **** what you or anyone else thinks about who we are pursuing or not. I never said Jimbo is infallible.

However, there are four active head coaches that have won a national championship in FBS Football. You, and probably most, if not all, of the "people" that are talking about Leon are not one of those coaches.

Kick rocks, youngster. We are tired of your whining and your pining for this Leon kid. Seriously, it's a bit disturbing.

Go eat some cookies and drink some milk. The adults are going to have a discussion now, sport.


Oh this will be good

This kid lives to debate. He'll be here all night
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How in the hell has this thread managed to make it to four pages?
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Amazing Moves said:

Look at all of the pro bowl caliber DB's Jimbo has playing in the NFL. Good luck, kid.


Jalen Ramsey
Xavier Rhodes
Lamarcus Joyner
Telvin Smith
Ronald Darby

and soon to be 1st round pick Derwin James.

Hey but, you do you.
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FishingAggie said:

Texags. Where the beta male thinks he really matters lol
Seriously: what's the need for this comment?
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HSFootballAg24 said:

FishingAggie said:

Texags. Where the beta male thinks he really matters lol
Seriously: what's the need for this comment?


You wouldn't understand even if I explained it. It's over your head. Just move on to another thread.
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Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

HSFootballAg24 said:

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

Maybe he thinks this guy - Israel Mukuamu - is coming with Jimbo since he decommitted from FSU a couple of days ago (11/29).
I don't really want that guy though. We shouldn't be trading elite recruits for average three stars. We need to do better than that if we want to be elite.


Thankfully, we don't need to care who you want. I am going to say it again. I will be happy with whomever Jimbo recruits. And I am pretty sure that Jimbo doesn't care who you want either.

HTH.
I don't care what Jimbo wants. He's an idiot if he'd take the Bossier safety over Leon O'Neal (unless it's a package deal to get Terrace Marshall as well). Jimbo isn't infallible and it's amazing how much blind faith some of y'all are already putting into him.

HTH.


Blind faith? Guy averaged 10 wins a year and won a National Title. Thats not "blind faith", son.

And I certainly put more faith in his opinion about who would be a better player for his team than I do in your angsty opinion about some dude you obviously get a chubby over.

God, you're a mouthy kid.
You used to be cool. Did our latest season cause your BAS to flare?

There are many people who agree with me. Look at the offers and the rankings. Jimbo Fisher is a damn good coach, but he certainly isn't infallible.


Read the words that I write:

I don't give a **** what you or anyone else thinks about who we are pursuing or not. I never said Jimbo is infallible.

However, there are four active head coaches that have won a national championship in FBS Football. You, and probably most, if not all, of the "people" that are talking about Leon are not one of those coaches.

Kick rocks, youngster. We are tired of your whining and your pining for this Leon kid. Seriously, it's a bit disturbing.

Go eat some cookies and drink some milk. The adults are going to have a discussion now, sport.
I don't understand the need for all of the snarky remarks and ad hominem attacks. I'm quite tired of your condescending and arrogant tone.

I haven't whined once on this thread, although you certainly have. You are so triggered over the fact that I'd disagree with Lord and Savior Jimbo. I never claimed that you think he's infallible, but you're certainly acting that way. It's not good that you refuse to listen to what others have to say. There are many qualified people who prefer Leon.

O'Neal is ranked much higher, and his statistics/measurables are almost all better. Also, the other three National Championship coaches (Dabo Swinney, Urban Meyer, and Nick Saban) all offered Leon. It's pretty clear that he's good enough for the best. I trust Saban, Swinney, and Meyer over Jimbo.

You are ignoring the facts at this point if you'd rather have the Bossier safety. I've also watched film myself and know that Leon is clearly better.
 
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