Fightin Ag491 said:

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Don't get me wrong, I like many people on this website, or people that follow college football in general, very much enjoy recruiting updates and stories. But in the grand scheme of things, it's certainly not a job that warrants the overwhelming superiority complex and big-headedness that he chose to conduct his craft with

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So true, yet, almost all of them in the business act this way.

This wasn't ever implied anywhere, so idk how you reached that conclusion from my post.. way off actually.

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And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans and freaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.

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Champ Bailey said:

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And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans ANDfreaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.

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Like Hamm was actually going to influence the administration and the decisions they made about the program. He did nothing but hold a dark cloud of negativity over the program and deter recruits from wanting to attend our school.

Loss of press pass for t.h. was the beginning of the end for that guy.

Unfortunate reality of that job- better not bite the hand that feeds you.

Tribe2013 said:

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Why does everyone that writes about where high school boys want to play sports take themselves so seriously?

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I honestly think it is because in the beginning they provide desired information, and people express gratitude for it, and it makes them think they are better and more accomplished at what they do than they really are. Add a few years, delusions of grandeur begin to develop, and narcissism starts to develop. Combine that with the idiocy of sycophancy of some fans who don't want to ever admit you're wrong because they need to justify sending you $9.95 a month, and you have a 'leader' who begins to believe he matters in some way.

Basically, some people don't possess the humility to handle the small amount of attention they receive when running a recruiting website, and it can go to their head. Add in the fact that some of these guys get interviewed by other small media sites/radio stations, and they begin to believe they're minor celebrities and buy into their own hype.

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Do you people really think these beat writers impact the program?

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They can when they have direct contact with recruits with no accountability as to what they say to em. Guy was like the Maroon Ketch. Thought more of himself than was necessary. And just tried too hard to be relevant like Chimp Brownstain.

Don't like seeing anyone lose their job, especially with little ones. That said, he was pretty rude to posters on so many occasions. Treated people like ***** Cocky lilttle *******.
However, I wish him well. Hope he finds something better.

never heard of him and those of you who have will have forgotten he ever existed by end of August

rabblerabblerabble

aggiematt235 said:

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trm94 said:

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Too bad. I like 247, because you don't have to watch what you say and can actually speak your mind. Also, was honest about recruiting instead of feeding subscribers loads of crap they wanted to hear

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This. And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans and freaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.
Be it RC telling everyone to stop complaining, Byrne complaining about not selling out games, Fran and MicMac's shenanigans, Sherman's militants group of he gets A&M defenders, and now this.

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Nobody has said Taylor Hamm is the only bad thing to ever happen to the program. But he was bad for the program.

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If you believe this, you're part of the problem.

A recruiting analyst is so far down the line on what is or is not good for a program.

Looch and TexAgs are not a huge positive for the program. Hamm and 247 are not a negative for the program.

WINNING is good for the program. Period.

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Hamm absolutely was a negative for the program. A recruit told OU that part of the reason he signed with OU and not us was because of Hamm.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I have said.

Champ Bailey said:

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Hamm absolutely was a negative for the program. A recruit told OU that part of the reason he signed with OU and not us was because of Hamm.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I have said.

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link?

I googled to see if there was a "professional" story about his firing... didn't find one, but did find this petition.

https://www.change.org/p/24-7-sports-fire-taylor-hamm

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Champ Bailey said:

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Hamm absolutely was a negative for the program. A recruit told OU that part of the reason he signed with OU and not us was because of Hamm.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I have said.

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link?

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Huh, who was the recruit?

Champ Bailey said:

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aggiematt235 said:

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Champ Bailey said:

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trm94 said:

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Too bad. I like 247, because you don't have to watch what you say and can actually speak your mind. Also, was honest about recruiting instead of feeding subscribers loads of crap they wanted to hear

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This. And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans and freaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.
Be it RC telling everyone to stop complaining, Byrne complaining about not selling out games, Fran and MicMac's shenanigans, Sherman's militants group of he gets A&M defenders, and now this.

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Nobody has said Taylor Hamm is the only bad thing to ever happen to the program. But he was bad for the program.

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If you believe this, you're part of the problem.

A recruiting analyst is so far down the line on what is or is not good for a program.

Looch and TexAgs are not a huge positive for the program. Hamm and 247 are not a negative for the program.

WINNING is good for the program. Period.

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Hamm absolutely was a negative for the program. A recruit told OU that part of the reason he signed with OU and not us was because of Hamm.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I have said.

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If I recruiting spare is the reason a recruit didn't come to A&M, he really never was going to come in the first place. And would you even want that kid in the first place?

He was giving an honest opinion, nothing wrong that. Pretty sad that the AD isn't accountable and has thin skin which made the feel like they had to pull his press credential.

GoodOldAgs said:

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trm94 said:

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Too bad. I like 247, because you don't have to watch what you say and can actually speak your mind. Also, was honest about recruiting instead of feeding subscribers loads of crap they wanted to hear

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This. And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans and freaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.
Be it RC telling everyone to stop complaining, Byrne complaining about not selling out games, Fran and MicMac's shenanigans, Sherman's militants group of he gets A&M defenders, and now this.

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You know - it is possible that folks are upset about our program right now and can still think that Hamm was a jerk.

Everyone that though he acted like a petulant child isn't implicitly excusing our coaches or somehow blaming him for our failures.

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GoodOldAgs said:

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trm94 said:

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Too bad. I like 247, because you don't have to watch what you say and can actually speak your mind. Also, was honest about recruiting instead of feeding subscribers loads of crap they wanted to hear

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This. And it's unfortunately amazing how A&M blames its own fans and freaking recruiting website people for their football shortcomings rather than holding coaches accountable.
Be it RC telling everyone to stop complaining, Byrne complaining about not selling out games, Fran and MicMac's shenanigans, Sherman's militants group of he gets A&M defenders, and now this.

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You know - it is possible that folks are upset about our program right now and can still think that Hamm was a jerk.

Everyone that though he acted like a petulant child isn't implicitly excusing our coaches or somehow blaming him for our failures.

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But that doesn't work with his objective.

JDCAG - excellent point

Pretty sure he had his press credentials revoked for contacting recruits while they were on campus when he and every recruiting site was explicitly told not to do that. Not sure if it was the same event that Steven Parker attended where Hamm followed him into the bathroom, but that's what I seem to recall.

After that he constantly released information about scrimmages and practices that other credentialed sites were told not to release information from, got into fights on Twitter and was a general jerk about things.

Guy was given guidelines that he needed to follow to continue being credentialed, none of which revolved around his opinion of the program, but when and how he could report or interact with the program. He broke those guidelines, lost his credentials, and ultimately got fire over that among many other shenanigans.

I don't know much about this Taylor Hamm other than what I've read on texags.

With that said, I'm predicting a future at Bleacher Report for him.

Regardless of Hamm, I'd never support numbers site after seeing what is allowed to be posted by members. Who wants high school kids to read numerous X-rated homosexual insults CONSTANTLY lobbed at those who still supported the athletic program, followed by a clan of doofuses high-fiving each other after said commentary. Is that what you mean by allowing you to express your opinion, GoodOldAgs? If so your opinion has no value on what's good or not good for a program. Forget blackballing TH, the whole darn website should be cut off, and perhaps then we could read Tarp and Peroni takes on a better platform.

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Regardless of Hamm, I'd never support numbers site after seeing what is allowed to be posted by members. Who wants high school kids to read numerous X-rated homosexual insults CONSTANTLY lobbed at those who still supported the athletic program, followed by a clan of doofuses high-fiving each other after said commentary. Is that what you mean by allowing you to express your opinion, GoodOldAgs? If so your opinion has no value on what's good or not good for a program. Forget blackballing TH, the whole darn website should be cut off, and perhaps then we could read Tarp and Peroni takes on a better platform.

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You ought to go to the politics board HERE and see what members are allowed to get away with.

BoxingAg84 said:

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mjfrog said:

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Regardless of Hamm, I'd never support numbers site after seeing what is allowed to be posted by members. Who wants high school kids to read numerous X-rated homosexual insults CONSTANTLY lobbed at those who still supported the athletic program, followed by a clan of doofuses high-fiving each other after said commentary. Is that what you mean by allowing you to express your opinion, GoodOldAgs? If so your opinion has no value on what's good or not good for a program. Forget blackballing TH, the whole darn website should be cut off, and perhaps then we could read Tarp and Peroni takes on a better platform.

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You ought to go to the politics board HERE and see what members are allowed to get away with.

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Who actually admits to going over there?

I'll never forget during the early mention of our potential move to the SEC, Finebaum had him in his radio show. I believe it was 2010 before there was momentum and only whispers. Paul was pretty much interrogating him and calling his bluff on his prediction we were leaving Big 12. Turns out Hamm was right but he was god awful in the interview.

aggieclay said:

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Hamm absolutely was a negative for the program. A recruit told OU that part of the reason he signed with OU and not us was because of Hamm.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I have said.

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Huh, who was the recruit?

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It was probably Steven Parker a top safety out of Oklahoma. He had just finished up a great visit to A&M and Hamm stalked him in the men's room to get an interview about his visit.