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SEC 2012
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I don't envy the A&M foundation. Former students are pissed off about a lot.

Football
Basketball
University ranking/enrollment

They would probably raise more money if Sumlin, Kennedy, and Sharp all resigned.
Shooz in Katy
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Meter maids!
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SJW's out of control
trm94
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I already told the Foundation to lose my number. Please don't call again
NotGeorgeLucas
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Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?
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NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


It tends to dry up when people quit TRYING.
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Baseball
Rocco S
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SEC 2012 said:

I don't envy the A&M foundation. Former students are pissed off about a lot.

Football
Basketball
University ranking/enrollment

Am I missing anything?


They're the ones responsible for it.

Loftin was the only one with any sense to break rank and do what was right and he got ran out of town for it. Now we get John Sharp trying to ramrod stupid **** like 12 empty seats and ugly AF statues.
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Hard to donate money when you feel it is run by clowns.
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NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?
Maroon Flash
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It is time for the AD to earn his money. We need a LB Position Coach in the worst way.
FishingAggie
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I'll send my money
Bought a new truck and need the sticker.
Lateralus Ag
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NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


I supported the Foundation for years, during the Fran era even.

I stopped when 25 by 25 was announced. Had nothing to do with any sport.

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I would suggest that there is a gradual deterioration of all things TAMU...
Deadwood
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I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.
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Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


AMEN
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NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


Not the norm, but when "my school" **** on its alumni and booted its alumni out of its 19 years season ticket seats, because there were "others" (bandwagon riders) who donated more to jump the line for season tickets in the new flashy stadium once we became the "it" thing "that year"......yeah, lose my number.
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Lateralus Ag said:

NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


I supported the Foundation for years, during the Fran era even.

I stopped when 25 by 25 was announced. Had nothing to do with any sport.




I give most of my money to the Aggie ring scholarship and to the Student Veterans Association.

There's ways to support this school and get the money to good causes.
Lateralus Ag
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Bayside Tiger Ag said:

Lateralus Ag said:

NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


I supported the Foundation for years, during the Fran era even.

I stopped when 25 by 25 was announced. Had nothing to do with any sport.




I give most of my money to the Aggie ring scholarship and to the Student Veterans Association.

There's ways to support this school and get the money to good causes.


I said I stopped donating to the Foundation. I haven't stopped giving...
Lateralus Ag
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Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
Deadwood
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NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?
Is this a troll?

No one is more loyal than us. We have massive alumni financial support, yet our university is polluted by freaking academic parasites now and SJWs on the BOR. I can't believe Tony Buzbee stands by for this crap as I knew him in school and he was a hard charger.
Deadwood
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Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.
Lateralus Ag
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Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Deadwood
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Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Experience is important for sure, but if you think for a second the school you attended is not a factor you are sorely mistaken. It's the only comparative analysis they have of your performance. For instance, my company simply did not recruit AT ALL from Tech or UH. Only A&M, UT, and Rice. The status of the engineering school was always important.
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Lateralus Ag said:

NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


I supported the Foundation for years, during the Fran era even.

I stopped when 25 by 25 was announced. Had nothing to do with any sport.


And, when they added an athletic logo to our diplomas.
Lateralus Ag
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FriscoKid said:

Lateralus Ag said:

NotGeorgeLucas said:

Is this the norm for A&M alumni? Only support your school if your sports teams are winning?


I supported the Foundation for years, during the Fran era even.

I stopped when 25 by 25 was announced. Had nothing to do with any sport.


And, when they added a terribly conceived athletic logo to our diplomas.


FiFY
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No one is more loyal than us. We have massive alumni financial support, yet our university is polluted by freaking academic parasites now and SJWs on the BOR. I can't believe Tony Buzbee stands by for this crap as I knew him in school and he was a hard charger.

The BOR can start by firing John Sharp TODAY. A&M's ranking plummeted and enrollment got out of hand under his watch. Clean house.
Lateralus Ag
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Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Experience is important for sure, but if you think for a second the school you attended is not a factor you are sorely mistaken. It's the only comparative analysis they have of your performance. For instance, my company simply did not recruit AT ALL from Tech or UH. Only A&M, UT, and Rice. The status of the engineering school was always important.


I have been in my industry for 20 years. I promise you at my level no one cares where I went to college.

Did it matter when I got my first job? Sure. No question. But my long years and my success at previous places of employment is why I have my current position.

And at my current position, no one is recruited from schools. I am at the executive level and we don't recruit from schools. We recruit at my level from executive or junior level at similar organizations.

NotGeorgeLucas
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Not a troll, just a genuine question. I have read a lot of sentiments from alumni that seem to abandon hope when they are losing. But I'm just a bystander. I think they're great.
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Deadwood
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Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Experience is important for sure, but if you think for a second the school you attended is not a factor you are sorely mistaken. It's the only comparative analysis they have of your performance. For instance, my company simply did not recruit AT ALL from Tech or UH. Only A&M, UT, and Rice. The status of the engineering school was always important.


I have been in my industry for 20 years. I promise you at my level no one cares where I went to college.

Did it matter when I got my first job? Sure. No question. But my long years and my success at previous places of employment is why I have my current position.
I've had more than 20 years in industry and I know the value of experience. But you are kidding yourself if you think that the school you attended is not one of the factors they evaluate. Sure, this isn't always the case - I have contacts and in some cases I could get a job just based on that. I'm talking all things being equal.

Anyone can put anything on a resume, and every resume looks like the dude walks on water. So you have to parse the objectives.

Take, for example, I work in IT sales. Everyone I look to hire has been 200 to 300% of quota and dominated their industry for years. This is mostly because all of them know I can't verify any of it and their former employers won't comment. So then you move to the personal interview and whatever objective criteria you can use - like their grades and school attended.
Lateralus Ag
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Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Experience is important for sure, but if you think for a second the school you attended is not a factor you are sorely mistaken. It's the only comparative analysis they have of your performance. For instance, my company simply did not recruit AT ALL from Tech or UH. Only A&M, UT, and Rice. The status of the engineering school was always important.


I have been in my industry for 20 years. I promise you at my level no one cares where I went to college.

Did it matter when I got my first job? Sure. No question. But my long years and my success at previous places of employment is why I have my current position.
I've had more than 20 years in industry and I know the value of experience. But you are kidding yourself if you think that the school you attended is not one of the factors they evaluate. Sure, this isn't always the case - I have contacts and in some cases I could get a job just based on that. I'm talking all things being equal.

Anyone can put anything on a resume, and every resume looks like the dude walks on water. So you have to parse the objectives.


If you are a 20 year vet and applying for jobs where the reviewing manager or exec doesn't already know you, you haven't done a very good job building your network.

I haven't applied for a job without being asked by the hiring exec to apply in years. That is how it works generally. You should be getting hired by your reputation at this stage of your career. Not filling out applications and sending in resumes to an HR dept without knowing the hiring manager.

Maybe that is why you have a misunderstanding of how much your alma mater matters (or not) when you graduated 20 years ago.
Lateralus Ag
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Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Deadwood said:

I'm actually most pissed about the academic deterioriation. The sports pisses me off because I'm a fan, but it doesn't really affect my life otherwise. These idiots devaluing my degree for some social justice BS makes me want to punch them in the junk.


I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the idea that what they do today devalues a degree already earned is a myth.

They are devaluing current degrees and probably future degrees. No question there.
I disagree. Probably 30 years ago this was true, as it used to be that once you were in a career you pretty much stayed with the same company and your progression had nothing to do with your school. Now, however, changing jobs is frequent and your resume is reviewed every time. My engineering masters, which once was extremely respected, is being devalued.


I don't know how long you have been in your industry, but I gotta tell you, where I got my degree hasn't been why I have gotten my last two jobs. My experience and my expertise has.
Experience is important for sure, but if you think for a second the school you attended is not a factor you are sorely mistaken. It's the only comparative analysis they have of your performance. For instance, my company simply did not recruit AT ALL from Tech or UH. Only A&M, UT, and Rice. The status of the engineering school was always important.


I have been in my industry for 20 years. I promise you at my level no one cares where I went to college.

Did it matter when I got my first job? Sure. No question. But my long years and my success at previous places of employment is why I have my current position.
I've had more than 20 years in industry and I know the value of experience. But you are kidding yourself if you think that the school you attended is not one of the factors they evaluate. Sure, this isn't always the case - I have contacts and in some cases I could get a job just based on that. I'm talking all things being equal.

Anyone can put anything on a resume, and every resume looks like the dude walks on water. So you have to parse the objectives.

Take, for example, I work in IT sales. Everyone I look to hire has been 200 to 300% of quota and dominated their industry for years. This is mostly because all of them know I can't verify any of it and their former employers won't comment. So then you move to the personal interview and whatever objective criteria you can use - like their grades and school attended.


If you are hiring sales folks and you don't have your top five candidates picked before you ever posted the position, you are doing it wrong.

Just some advice.
Lateralus Ag
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And if you are asking them what their GPA was and these aren't entry level positions, again, you are doing it wrong.

And no, I didn't have bad grades.
Picadillo
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I believe it was Loftin who said football is the front porch of our university.

If that's the case...

And is it any coincidence the SJW's have run amok since Young has come on board.
MaysGrad09
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There are serious problems at A&M. This is stuff you would expect at Texas Tech or some other diploma mill, not a flagship university.
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The number of classes with more than 100 students grew 17 percent since 2010, to 439 in 2015, according to A&M data. And the number of advisers and counselors hasn't kept up with the growing population. This fall, the school has begun offering informational videos, online exercises and video consultations for students who need help.

During lunchtime, the dining halls are overcrowded, forcing some students to eat on the floor. And the influx of students has created transportation problems. Hood, the speaker of the student senate, said he often rode the bus two miles from his apartment to campus last year. It sometimes took him about 45 minutes to get to class, he said.

He and other students have been speaking out. In the two previous school years, the student senate passed resolutions asking school leadership to slow the growth in enrollment.
https://www.texastribune.org/2016/11/08/now-more-66000-students-texas-m-getting-crowded/
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