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Proposal by SBnation for division-less SEC football

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greg.w.h
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Try very hard to not over-discuss the permanent rivals and focus on the concept of seeing all SEC teams every two years:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/6/14/11895556/sec-football-schedule-format-divisions-rivalries-rotation
Mr. Havok
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I like the idea and I know you don't want to over-discuss permanent rivals, but satisfaction will end up likely based on the permanent rivals. For example, that proposal not only gives us the toughest schedule every even year, but also locks us into Mizzou.
VanZandt92
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I don't want to play Mizzou
Stockholm Syndrome
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Like it
ag2003
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I really like that idea----so often the top two teams are in the West and can't play each other in the championship game-----plus it's going to take 20 years before we will play at every SEC stadium.....that's silly. I could give two ****s about Missouri, too, but they are a logical 3rd permanent rival and no change will ever take place if we don't have the permanent rival thing b/c too many rivalries just can't be broken up (or shouldn't be).
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I thought the permanent rivals was the part that was most likely to get adjustment is all. The three geographically closest schools makes sense from a cost basis. It just might not be viewed as "inspiring" at least with respect to Mizzou.

It's lightly based on the pod concepts that emerge in 16-team discussions (including the NFC and AFC for that matter.)

Just the first truly interesting presentation I've seen.
Seersucker Ag 2011
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I like it a lot.
vander54
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I really like this idea. With that being said I would be shocked if they would actually accept this concept if it was presented.
Zombie Jon Snow
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It's been proposed before.

and I do like it....except one thing.

Don't play an odd/even schedule, Play the same schedule back to back for 2 years, then play the other schedule. You still play everyone every four years. But I think doing it this way makes games a little better in that you are more likely to have rematch/payback scenarios a year later rather than 2 years apart. Makes it a little more recent and fans are likely to have fresh memories of the last time they played.

I love the play everyone 2x or 4x in 4 years - much more marketable and fans get road trips to every SEC destination at least once (or twice) every four years as opposed to 12 years.



greg.w.h
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quote:
It's been proposed before.

and I do like it....except one thing.

Don't play an odd/even schedule, Play the same schedule back to back for 2 years, then play the other schedule. You still play everyone every four years. But I think doing it this way makes games a little better in that you are more likely to have rematch/payback scenarios a year later rather than 2 years apart. Makes it a little more recent and fans are likely to have fresh memories of the last time they played.

I love the play everyone 2x or 4x in 4 years - much more marketable and fans get road trips to every SEC destination at least once (or twice) every four years as opposed to 12 years.




That was what was bugging me. Seeing at least some teams back to back if not the whole non-permanent slate makes a lot of sense. But then you re-introduce the problem of balance of play. SBNation is analyzing that statically. The NFL analyzes it and schedules dynamically in the pods (aka "divisions") and matches as many cross-division opponents as possible and then assigns the two extra games largely due to results on the field the previous year. This doesn't allow for that kind of dynamic adjustment and if you have a harder schedule back to back there is reason to presume your outcome will be worse.

There are all kinds of potential issues such as two teams who played each other--even as late as the last week of the conference season--meeting again in the SEC Championship game (the issue that is the most discussed detracting element of the approved new BDF playoff.) The simplest question is whether the beauty of seeing every team every other year (or 2x every 4 years) is compelling enough to desire to absorb the other potential warts. I DO believe the schedule can be dynamically adjusted btw. But there is no way all 14 teams will ever agree it was fair.

I also note that they honored the current commitment to an eight-game conference schedule. I meant to point that out earlier.
Turkey 87
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I'm all for it or going to a 9 game conference schedule (with rotating teams from the east).

As long as there is no relegation for teams near the bottom - like the English Premier League...
MouthBQ98
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How about 2 seven team divisions, refine based on conference win record every year. Top 7 teams play each other plus three randomly chosen teams from the bottom 7, and vise versa. Each season, the top and bottom 7 are new. Scheduling nightmare, but would be a lot better match ups for everyone.
1st Generation Ag
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A few years ago one of the writers from SB Nation's Georgia blog, Dawgsports.com, suggested this very thing. They had us permanently matched with Arkansas, Mizzou, and Mississippi State. I like this trio better. We have history with all three - Arkansas from the SWC, Mizzou from the Big XII, and we have played LSU more times than half the teams in the SEC have.

It's a great idea and it needs to happen.
Triple-T
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Like this very much. Don't even yet really feel like we're in the same conference with most of the teams in the SEC East.
JayAggie
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I've always thought divisions were stupid. Take the two best teams and they play in the championship. I'm for it, but I don't think it will ever pass. Every SEC West team would vote yes, and every East team will vote no.
el_guapo
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This makes way more sense to me than the current set up. Upside seems greater than the downside. Don't want to play mizzou every year. I'm sure they would love it because it gives them more recruiting exposure in Texas. I like our current east perm rival better (USCe) b/c probably better sell to recruits and Texas recruits less likely to go to mizzou.
JaySugar
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I love this idea.
really hate the divisions.
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