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Spotted Ag
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9:19a, 5/25/16
What did that old fart say on 610AM this morning?
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AgCat93
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9:32a, 5/25/16
'Bout what?
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AgOutsideAustin
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9:37a, 5/25/16
No need to fire Briles and the Texans will win the super bowl.
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Ag_EE
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9:39a, 5/25/16
Yippee ki-yay, mother ...?
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9:45a, 5/25/16
Welcome to the party pal
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Definitely Not A Cop
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9:52a, 5/25/16
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10:01a, 5/25/16
He's all ass, my dude... But also a lotta neck fat.
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11:01a, 5/25/16
Was he defending the rapes?
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11:10a, 5/25/16
Isn't he a Baylor alum? I'm sure he is just carrying weight for the rapists. Ken Starr is gone but he hasn't won like 50 games over the last 5 years so he was the easy scapegoat.
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11:12a, 5/25/16
Yeah hes a Baylor alum who slammed a&m for leaving tbe bdf but won't even criticize Baylor for hiding rapists.
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11:51a, 5/25/16
Briles will remain and Bears will finish in the top 20. Hard to admit ,but he is a winner. Gets done there what Sumlin can't seem to do here.
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12:11p, 5/25/16
Would not expect anything different from rape u

Briles recruits rapist and thugs
And the solution is to "fire" the retirement age president

What a POS school

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12:16p, 5/25/16

He also said he know's Art and he is a good guy that has done a lot of good. Lopez should have mentioned the same could have been said about Joe Pa. You can't just overlook cover ups for stuff like this b/c he is a "good guy"
Starr is the scapegoat and Briles is fine b/c he wins football games.

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12:26p, 5/25/16
I was listening this morning and was shocked at what McClain said.

I don't know the details of the sex assaults at Baylor. Any proof that Briles covered it up? Or did Art just not cut the guy immediately?

I have always thought highly of McClain, but what he said this morning is a bad look for him. He mentioned what Baylor should do to solve the problem. None of his suggestions involved changes to the football program.

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12:38p, 5/25/16
Didn't listen but knew he wouldn't want Briles gone.
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In reply to [removed post] • 1:36p, 5/25/16
Or you could setup some form of a department within your school to immediately investigate the allegations and then make an intelligent decision on the case based on the evidence...

If Baylor wants to pay me ~100k a year, I'd be glad to come up with some other great ideas like this... or they could just follow the damn government mandates... either works.
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In reply to [removed post] • 2:14p, 5/25/16
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Was he defending the rapes?
No. He said Starr should and will go. Briles shouldn't be fired and when dogged by Lopez over that admitted he is biased and of course the reasoning is football. Baylor should open a crisis center that women can go to that will hold their hand through the entire process. And that the whole situation casts a pall over Baylor and all of its alumni.

Just reporting what he actually said.
Surprised he didn't say that they will offer discounted parking to any female that needs to use the crisis center as long as she was raped by a football player.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 2:15p, 5/25/16
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2:34p, 5/25/16
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Open a crisis center to provide support and guidance and let the cops handle the investigation.


From what has been reported the cops took extra steps to make sure things stayed out of the public eye.
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3:06p, 5/25/16
Baylor, Ken, nor Art gave a flying fudge about these cases until they spent enough time in "the news" ( or internet blogs, etc).

So, just because people will sue Baylor if they do something; so it's OK to ignore ALL accusations? Super. Let's also disband all law enforcement, because they are sued all the time. Perfect defense.

How different would things be if Baylor had at least responded and honestly pursued these things when they happened?
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In reply to [removed post] • 4:12p, 5/25/16
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Baylor, Ken, nor Art gave a flying fudge about these cases until they spent enough time in "the news" ( or internet blogs, etc).

So, just because people will sue Baylor if they do something; so it's OK to ignore ALL accusations? Super. Let's also disband all law enforcement, because they are sued all the time. Perfect defense.

How different would things be if Baylor had at least responded and honestly pursued these things when they happened?
Would you like to present some semblance of a coherent thought?

Good one.
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In reply to [removed post] • 4:23p, 5/25/16
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Or you could setup some form of a department within your school to immediately investigate the allegations and then make an intelligent decision on the case based on the evidence...

If Baylor wants to pay me ~100k a year, I'd be glad to come up with some other great ideas like this... or they could just follow the damn government mandates... either works.
That still doesn't alleviate the issue of getting sued if you made a legally incorrect decision. See Duke Lacrosse or the Mattress Girl case at Columbia for further examples.


If you do a legitimate investigation, and turn up enough evidence to have a reasonable case under title 9, your chances of getting sued are very slim.

Furthermore, Baylor ... a PRIVATE Christian school, could error on the victims side much easier.
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6:41p, 5/25/16
So sad. I hope the victims sue the sheite out of bu.
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6:42p, 5/25/16
And as a parent, I'm surprised there haven't been threats of violence.
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6:51p, 5/25/16
I would be very careful of the Title IX process. It's extralegal and affectively denies due process to the presumed perpetrator. The use of Title IX language to construct an abortion of justice in the name of not allowing the presumed victim to be tangentially harassed is horrible regulation and worse law.
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In reply to phillyag92 • 7:11p, 5/25/16
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And as a parent, I'm surprised there haven't been threats of violence.

Against who?
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