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Rethinking SEC scheduling

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P.C. Principal
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I'm kinda piggybacking off of the Bama/Auburn to the east thread.

I think the current SEC scheduling format of 6-1-1 sucks. It's lame playing 6 of the East schools once every 7 years or whatever. For example, remember how the USC-LSU game got moved to Baton Rouge last year? Well, as it turns out, LSU won't be making a trip to Columbia until 2028 now. It's ridiculous.

Players should be able to play every SEC school at some point during their 4 years. The only reason we have it this way is to preserve the Auburn-Georgia and Bama-Tennessee rivalries. LSU-UF is a quasi-rivalry, and the other matchups... most people don't GAF about.

Option 1: Eliminate the cross-division rivalries, keep the divisions the same

This is probably the most controversial, being that AU-UGA and BAMA-UT are so deeply rooted in history. But people won't shed a tear for the MSST-UK rivalry dissolving. Moving to a 6-2 format allows for much more turnover. If this happened, the scheduling would have to be structured so that the 2 East opponents are different every year.

Team A would always play Team B in back to back years, having a home-and-home, but there will always have to be a new team on the schedule each year. E.g. A&M plays UF and @UGA one year, and the next year plays UGA and @UK, then UK and @UT, etc.

I'm not sure if this would allow every team to be played in 4 years (someone do the math please), but at least it allows for more variety.

Downside: kills 2 big historic rivalries.

Option 2: Eliminate some cross-division rivalries, keep the divisions the same

I'm honestly not sure how this would work, but this could be a compromise to keep the rivalries mentioned above. I'm pretty sure the Big Ten does this with a couple schools. They don't have permanent cross-division rivalries, but they do protect a couple of inter-divisional matchups (Purdue-Indiana I think?) for the sake of history.

Option 3: Re-align the divisions, eliminate cross division rivalries

This goes back to the thread about moving Bama and Auburn to the east. That way, Bama's and Auburn's 2 big rivalries will be maintained. This could be controversial, because moving Vandy and Mizzou to the west could make the divisions seem disproportionate. UT, Bama, Auburn, UF, and UGA on an up year could be a beast of a division.

I think it could even out, however. Mizzou, Arkansas, and Ole Miss have had some up years recently too. LSU is pretty consistent.

The SEC may also protect the LSU-Bama game as a single cross-divisional rivalry.

Option 4: Eliminate divisions altogether, all teams have 2 permanent opponents, and rotate the other 6.

I heard about this option some time ago, and liked it more than I thought I would. This gives significant flexibility to scheduling. A&M's 2 obvious choices for permanent opponents are Arkansas and LSU. Bama's would probably be Auburn and Tennessee, etc.

Downsides are: could be a scheduling headache, and some teams might get a really bad draw one year. But otherwise I like this option.

(edited to add) Option 5: Add one conference game for a 9-game SEC schedule, regardless of whether we keep cross-division rivalries

This would make it 6-2-1 or 6-3, and I think either of these is better than what we have now. I don't care to play USCe every year and I imagine most people don't either.

Downside: 9 SEC games is a beast. Lots of schools may oppose this because of permanent OOC games like UF-FSU, SC-Clemson, etc. That would give these schools only 2 free games a year. If they wanted to schedule another P5 opponent in there, it would make for a very tough schedule.

If we ever do play tu again, 9 SEC games + tu is a beast.

Regardless, I think 6-1-1 is one of the worst options we have. Teams should be able to play teams from the other division more often than every 7 years. And why are A&M and SC paired up? The two schools are the furthest from one another in the conference, and nobody cares about the Mizzou-Arky "rivalry."

I'm not totally sure of this but don't the Big Ten and ACC have different scheduling?
TheSwingingGate
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Eliminate cross division rivals, and keep the 6+2 schedule. 2 new cross division opponents each year in a fixed order, so that the next rotation switches Home/Away. Schools that are interested in maintaining current rivalries like Alabama/Tennessee, could then schedule their game as "non-conference" in off years.
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claym711
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4 Pods of 4 teams each.

Play each team in your Pod + 2 teams from each other Pod = 9 conference games.

4 team playoff for the conference championship. Conference splits the revenue from conf playoff.

This gives 4 teams from the SEC a shot at the National Championship game. Teams in the SEC playoff: 2 teams get 13 game schedules, 2 teams gets a 14 game schedule.
Agmechanic
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i agree with claym
P.C. Principal
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I think a playoff for the CCG is too many games, especially if they make it to the real playoff. Good idea otherwise.
ntxVol
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Moving Vandy west with no cross-division rivals is a non-starter. UT will always play Vandy...it's an in-state rivalry and we would never have hired Neyland if not for Vandy.

Maybe move UK to the west instead?

I am actually warming up to this idea. We used to play Auburn every year before 92 and it also renews the UF/UA rivalry as well.
41332
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Always a fan or the roommate switch or leaving as is
Zombie Jon Snow
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a variation on option 4.

your math doesn't work there.

if you have 2 permanent and "rotate the other 6"...ummm there are only 11 other teams (14 - 2 permanent and minus yourself).....


In other words there are 13 teams besides yourself. so instead you need 3 permanent and rotate the other 5 (3 + 5) then you play everyone either every year (3 opponents) or twice in a 4 years span home and away (the other 10 in 2 5-team groups).

So keep 2 former division rivals and 1 cross division rival. This allows you to maintain nearly all of the important games anyway.

Tamu - Arky, LSU, SC
Bama - Auburn, LSU, Tenn
UF - UGA, Tenn, Auburn
Tenn - UF, KY, Bama

etc...

No divisions. top 2 teams (with tiebreakers as needed) play for SEC championship.
LGBFJB
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The Roommate Switch
Chickenhawk
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Tl;dr
nereus
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The current set up is a lot like two 7 team conferences that have a scheduling agreement and the winners play a championship game between them. In that sense we have the SEC West for our conference, which is a pretty awesome conference to be in.

Now that we are playing a good non-conference game each year, we have a great schedule every year that I am excited about.

Sure, I would be fine with getting rid of cross division rivalries or the roommate switch (9 game version) which gives us LSU, Arkie, Bama, and the two Mississippi each year, but we currently have one of the best game slates in the country.
JarHead17
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9 game conf schedule. No more FCS cupcakes.

P.C. Principal
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