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Fizban
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

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At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

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Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?


MaxPower
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I can't believe Hermann committed, but it's clear tu is his dream job.
Jugstore Cowboy
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Coaches aren't fans; they don't have "dream jobs" they have dream situations. No one knows where that situation will be in a year or two. Just because everyone on this board obsesses on Texas doesn't mean the rest of the country does.
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

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At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

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Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?





I think he's onto something...publically show support for your minority hc meanwhile get silent commit from Herman that way when chollie getscanned for anything less than winning the natty this year, white boy Herman comes in with stacked talent and turns team around in one season thus justifying firing tu's first and only ever minority head coach.

Jamails legacy lives on. Put the racist statue back up.
83Aggie
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

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At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

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Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?



Would love to see the impossible happen...Charlie wins 9 , they can't fire him, and Herman becomes official HC in waiting. He is told it was an offer but not a commitable offer
longeryak
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You know the fall ends before 9 games are even played... Right?
Winter no longer starts December 21st?
heddy Lamarr
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We averaged 6 wins a season for 13 years yet still recruited a slew of first round draft picks that led us to 11-2 our first year in the SEC
J Peterman
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I do not usually post serious comments on this board, usually i just listen to the malarkey that is every inch of the Zoo. That being said, I seriously cannot empathized with these recruits. Have they lost their god-d*** mind? Why the actual **** would any recruit ever want to go to t.u. NOW. They cannot develop QB's, and as of right now, won't put players into the NFL. Theyre fresh off a 5-7 season where as we put up not a much better season but at least somewhat respectable, we put players into the NFL. they GET PAID. Why are we losing blue chips like Brandon Jones and Malik to this mockery of a program, there is not one ounce of reasoning in which i could ever justify someone to go that ****hole to play football. WE SHOULD BE RUNNING THIS STATE.
Louisville had 10 players drafted last year. That, and early playing time, is what Strong is able to sell.
Ag1115
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Like it or not they are still tu. Until the entitled generation is gone it is what it is.

Austin is still a fun place to be as well. They'll get their share. We are better. No big deal


This. While there's no doubt which place is better to be for football currently, they'll always get theirs. The town alone will attract some recruits, and they can always sell on past winning traditions which always works on the select few. It's crazy to think that we can get any and everyone. While we should and will out recruit them for years to come, they'll ALWAYS get their select few of top guys. Can't deny that.
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

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At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

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Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?





I think he's onto something...publically show support for your minority hc meanwhile get silent commit from Herman that way when chollie getscanned for anything less than winning the natty this year, white boy Herman comes in with stacked talent and turns team around in one season thus justifying firing tu's first and only ever minority head coach.

Jamails legacy lives on. Put the racist statue back up.


Why do you keep bringing race into the conversation?
aggiehawg
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Texas > Texas A&M for most anyone who isn't a diehard A&M fan, it really isnt that complicated, it's always been that way, ducking Texas by running off to the SEC didn't change that
LOL.

We just saw a better conference opportunity and took it.

Too bad the horns cannot say the same.
weminuche
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They cannot develop QB's, and as of right now, won't put players into the NFL.


They surely havent shown the ability to develop quarterbacks lately, but they have a new OC to sell and Strong's class from Louisville put 10 guys in the NFL. If you are going to be outraged, point it in the right direction, our coaching staff and the school administration, not at t.u.


Joe Exotic
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Texas > Texas A&M for most anyone who isn't a diehard A&M fan, it really isnt that complicated, it's always been that way, ducking Texas by running off to the SEC didn't change that

We "ducked' Texas for Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc.? Seems legit.
Nino Brown
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Sometimes it has more to do with who had more crap in Wal-Mart when they are 6 or 7 years old. It comes and goes.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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Didnt tu have a verbal commitment from Saban a few years ago?
scapps
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Texas > Texas A&M for most anyone who isn't a diehard A&M fan, it really isnt that complicated, it's always been that way, ducking Texas by running off to the SEC didn't change that
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Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin: "I've always said 'anytime, anywhere,"
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University of Texas Men's athletics director DeLoss Dodds: "We get to decide when we play again"
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Texas athletics director DeLoss Dodds sent an email to his counterpart Bill Byrne at Texas A&M to let him know that Texas' nonconference schedule was full through 2018.

"In my e-mail to Bill Byrne, I wrote that we were not in a position now to look at future football scheduling," Dodds said. "We're scheduled out with nonconference games through 2018 and our Big 12 schedule is not yet settled. What we have right now is a full schedule but if any future options are available, the decision will not be made by just one person."

Texas A&M will start competing in the Southeastern Conference in 2012.

Even with that move, Byrne told the Houston Chronicle that Texas A&M has always been open to continuing the 117-year-old rivalry with Texas. But Byrne told the paper that door had been closed by Dodds when he told him Texas' nonconference schedule was full through 2018.
Good call...A&M sure has been ducking the longhorns. Support your team all you want, but blatant lies make you look very foolish.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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And here's the thing nobody wants to discuss- firing a minority HC, especially at a liberal school in the south, only after 3 years on the job, is a dicey proposition.

The rule of thumb is 4 years, unless an implosion in year 3. 6 wins =/= implosion:

ND- loss
@ Cal- pickem
@ oSu- probably a loss
ou- should be a loss
baylor- loss
@ tech- should be competitive
tcu- loss

Gimme Wins: Utep, Kansas, Iowa State in Austin(?)
Par: 7-5

At tu, the narrative would be that Charlie inherited a bad program and got insuffecient time. The media would crucify them. Drunk sips may say 9-3 or else. I doubt the administration would have such an easy time. The cheaper and easier play is to keep Charlie another year if they even go to a bowl.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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And the sips can go pound sand. They were willing to use the rivalry as leverage back when it benefited them. Now that it does not, they want to cry fowl. Let them whine to the media. Its no different than David Boren whining to the media about ou being stuck in a plantation conference.

We play in the SEC now. We have the upper hand for the first time in 100 years. I thought this issue was dead.
aggiehawg
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And here's the thing nobody wants to discuss- firing a minority HC, especially at a liberal school in the south, only after 3 years on the job, is a dicey proposition.

The rule of thumb is 4 years, unless an implosion in year 3. 6 wins =/= implosion
I honestly don't think any of the people involved in making that decision are all that concerned about Strong's race being that huge of an issue. He's a bad fit at tee ewe for a lot of reasons not having to do with his or his wife's race. Stephen A. has already decreed that.

But, for insurance purposes, they will shell out to make sure he gets a good recruiting class again. Two years of talent and a still subpar season will be enough justification to fire him. Plus he had a huge budget to replace his OC, messed up the Cumbie deal, and then needed Perrin and Fenves to close the deal on Gilbert and Mattox.

Remember Perrin's a lawyer. He's playing chess, not checkers. He's not worried about Strong suing if he's fired, he's just making sure they win the suit if he does.
trm94
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Seeing as how Perrin green-lighted the booster involvement, I'd say it's a non-issue. Perrin is the one who is telling boosters that Strong is out next year.
phatbeast
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And here's the thing nobody wants to discuss- firing a minority HC, especially at a liberal school in the south, only after 3 years on the job, is a dicey proposition.

The rule of thumb is 4 years, unless an implosion in year 3. 6 wins =/= implosion:

ND- loss
@ Cal- pickem
@ oSu- probably a loss
ou- should be a loss
baylor- loss
@ tech- should be competitive
tcu- loss

Gimme Wins: Utep, Kansas, Iowa State in Austin(?)
Par: 7-5

At tu, the narrative would be that Charlie inherited a bad program and got insuffecient time. The media would crucify them. Drunk sips may say 9-3 or else. I doubt the administration would have such an easy time. The cheaper and easier play is to keep Charlie another year if they even go to a bowl.


Iowa State is a gimme?
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

quote:
At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

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Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?





I think he's onto something...publically show support for your minority hc meanwhile get silent commit from Herman that way when chollie getscanned for anything less than winning the natty this year, white boy Herman comes in with stacked talent and turns team around in one season thus justifying firing tu's first and only ever minority head coach.

Jamails legacy lives on. Put the racist statue back up.
/facepalm
Red Skye
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I was in Houston about a month ago having drinks with some well-known sip lawyers, and some LSU guys as well.

I love how "well-known" lawyers always seem to know exactly what is going on inside football programs, especially the secret potential NCAA sanctions stuff.

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At that time, my allegiances were unknown, and these boosters were hammered on high dollar scotch.

Nevermind, I initially missed the part about them drinking high dollar scotch. This is now completely credible.

quote:
Last, that Herman would be the new coach next Fall - already have a deal in place with him. Charlie is gone if he doesn't win nine, and we all agreed the moron won't.

So now Herman has also silently committed to Texas? Does that seem like a little bit of a strange strategy for a guy that will almost certainly have a whole range of options open to him next year? Depending how Strong, Miles, and Sumlin do Herman could be looking at a three way bidding war. (unlikely sure, but the point is he will have options) Why would he agree to anything with Texas a year out?





I think he's onto something...publically show support for your minority hc meanwhile get silent commit from Herman that way when chollie getscanned for anything less than winning the natty this year, white boy Herman comes in with stacked talent and turns team around in one season thus justifying firing tu's first and only ever minority head coach.

Jamails legacy lives on. Put the racist statue back up.
Race baiting FTMFW.
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