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Thoughts on Texas A&M quarterback Kyle Allen's decision to transfer

December 10, 2015
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On Thursday Texas A&M announced sophomore starting quarterback Kyle Allen will transfer.

This is something that came across my desk earlier this afternoon and I've spent a couple of hours thinking about the ramifications of the former five-star quarterback and Aggie starter leaving A&M after two seasons. 

Out of respect for Kyle, I didn't break the news because he needed to be prepared for the onslaught that was going to come when Sumlin and A&M eventually put out the official, carefully worded and clean and sanitary press release.

Here's the bottom line truth: the Aggies lost a quarterback today that we'll probably see slinging passes in the National Football League in two or three years. More importantly, they lost a guy who probably would have stayed on campus had there been any degree of certainty regarding the direction of the A&M offense or the status of his position coach, an assistant who spent two years recruiting him and also happens to remain on board as the offensive coordinator.

This doesn't have to do with Kyler Murray or the fact that Allen was caught in the middle of a back-and-forth battle between two very talented and very decorated young quarterbacks. In my opinion, it has everything to do with instability on that side of the ball and Allen doing what he believed was best for his future.

Look, we all assumed that the very real possibility existed that either Allen or Murray would transfer following this season. Even if Allen reclaiming the starting job led to a flicker of hope that Kyle would stay on board and Murray would see how baseball went this spring before re-evaluating where he stood in the pecking order, the reality was that one of the two were likely to leave.

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The guy walking out the door, as it turns out, just so happens to be the most proven and experienced signal-caller on the Aggie roster and, truth be told, the one who was most likely to nab the starting job in 2016 with Murray spending the spring on the diamond for Rob Childress' potential College World Series squad.

There's no way to spin nor sugarcoat the Ags losing Allen, folks, and quite frankly, I have neither the desire nor inclination to do so.  

The fact is, the situation at quarterback has been handled poorly from the start and came to a head this afternoon. If Kevin Sumlin doesn't rectify whatever is going on with the Aggie offense and do so quickly, things are going to get much worse before they get better.

What do I mean? I know for a fact that rival coaches are having an absolute field day on the recruiting front when meeting with and talking to A&M commits and priority targets, pointing to a lack of production in 2015 and the ensuing uncertainty and dysfunction.

There's also the "little" things like where Murray's head is at in all of this (I've heard from more than one college coach in this state that Murray, in fact, is also strongly considering a transfer), the fact that a guy like SEC Freshman of the Year Christian Kirk just so happens to be Allen's best friend and the Ags' ongoing recruiting efforts in regard to the Class of 2016. 

As of today, the Aggies desperately need to add a quarterback to this year's class and it appears they will begin that search about ten months too late with a position coach/OC whose status moving forward is very much up in the air.

Sometimes, the truth hurts. And the truth today is that the A&M offense has taken steps backward every year since Sumlin's first in College Station in 2012. In four years in Aggieland, the A&M offense has been led by three different OCs and that number could grow to four in five years prior to next season.

It was Sumlin who created what appears to be a mix on his offensive staff that, at best, doesn't mesh well in terms of scheme and philosophy or, at worst, lacks any degree of real chemistry and cohesion. After all, we're talking about a unit that had not one, not two, but three OCs in the room this past season. In my humble opinion, Allen recognized as much and decided to pursue his football dreams elsewhere.

So, here we sit today. There's one man who can fix things.

He did it a year ago on the defensive side of the ball and things look as promising for the Wrecking Crew today under John Chavis as they did at any point since R.C. Slocum was patrolling the Kyle Field sidelines. I know you guys want me to be the one with all of the answers but, quite frankly, I don't know the best course of action for the head coach.

As you know, my job is to get you the information. Sumlin gets paid the big bucks to serve as the top-of-the-chain problem-solver for Texas A&M Football. I can opine all I want, but what I don't know is whether the answer is making a change at the top (offensive coordinator) or shaking things up elsewhere on that side of the ball. That's for the head man to decide, even it's an unpopular choice.

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What I do know, however, is that this thing has drug out too long and is clearly having a negative effect on the current Aggie players and program momentum — in the locker room and in the recruiting arena — in general.

The first order of business for Sumlin is stepping back and taking an honest look at where the system is flawed and getting to the absolute root of the problem. I can only assume that the head coach has been doing this for at least two weeks, if not much longer than that. And while I'll be the first to offer the man the benefit of the doubt, anything short of him having whatever replacements he has in place and ready to step into the breach when they are freed up to do so is beyond the realm of acceptable.

Even then, you'd think there would be some type of move made, some sort of press release or a pre-bowl press conference designed to put out the fire of uncertainty that is dangerously close to burning out of control.  

This isn't Sumlin taking his time to find the absolute best fit at defensive coordinator even if it meant losing Malik Jefferson to Texas — which, in all fairness, worked out brilliantly.

A year ago, he removed Mark Snyder shortly after the season finale and got the search underway. In this instance, the lack of any news or movement has led to a cloud hanging over the program during a crucial time in the recruiting cycle and probably played a role in Allen's ultimate decision.

There are a lot of players and assistants twisting in the wind right now and there are a lot of recruits who read the message boards and are much more social media-savvy than you and I, waiting to see which direction the Aggie head coach goes with an offense that ranked among the nation's most feared and explosive units as recently as two years ago.

Don't get it twisted — it's not Kevin Sumlin's job to tell me, you or even the biggest-money donor out there what he plans to do. He's paid $5M a year to make the final call on what's best for Aggie Football.

Last year, that meant keeping everyone in the dark before ripping John Chavis away from LSU. Pardon me for saying so, but things just don't seem nearly as clearly-orchestrated this time around.  

Here's hoping Sumlin already knows the answer to the question everyone, including his former starting quarterback, is asking.

Overly dramatic? I don't think so at all.

Raise your hand if you wear an Aggie Ring and aren't concerned.
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Thoughts on Texas A&M quarterback Kyle Allen's decision to transfer

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rcannaday
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Fire Spav tonight
Miles711
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cr0wbar
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Matt Davis
Joekel
Kenny Hill
Kyle Allen

I swear I'm missing another. Is this attrition normal? How can OSU keep 3 starting QBs and we can barely hold onto 2? Is the coaching staff sleeping with everyone's girlfriends?
The Collective
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I am done with Sumlin at this point. It's going to take a 2012 type season to trick me into trusting him again.
One Tooth Man
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Matt Davis
Joekel
Kenny Hill
Kyle Allen

I swear I'm missing another. Is this attrition normal? How can OSU keep 3 starting QBs and we can barely hold onto 2? Is the coaching staff sleeping with everyone's girlfriends?
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ZooGuy
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Anyone not done with Sumlin yet? He totally f'ed this up. Spav should have been gone weeks ago. Waiting causes us to lose recruits.

Sumlin's decision making is so stubborn. He sticks with people who are not doing a good job too long.

He royally screwed this up.
AggieEE
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I don't blame him for transferring if he read all of the **** everyone talked about him when he struggled. Our fan base is gilded. "Classy" up until the time when we face adversity, then the ugliness is revealed.
mooney69
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Hubenak Hubenak Hubenak. With Speedy as wildcat backup QB. No idea what emotion to feel.
mooney69
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KDS was propped up by JFF and we've all just been BFed
Agwood
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Can we call this a **** show now?
You are either coaching them that way or you are allowing it to happen!
mooney69
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Is RC available?
AustinMolitor
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Wow just wow, I don't know what to think of this, I'm an Aggie till I die lets ride this rollercoaster
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What will be the excuses from Sumlin this time? Good thing he is just worried about his coaching tree. That ****s broke.
The coaching tree needs a Class 1 pruning.
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This dumpster fire four years of offensive ineptitude is an embarrassment.

Fire Sumlin, clean house, and make John Chavis an offer he cannot refuse.

Without JFF these offensive coaches are clowns.





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CAM2014
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You people are ridiculous. The kid is a quitter. Did everyone forget that he only started ONE season worth of games?! I am by no means backing up spav but we're 8-4 this isn't the 10 year span where we only saw above .500 seasons 4 times from 2002 to 2011. get a grip. everyone is expecting the next Johnny to come along but that's never gonna happen again.
I know everyone wants to go all the way and win a championship but quite frankly the kid is a quitter and I don't want him on our team.

John83
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I'm glad I've decided not to renew my season tix for next year. What a mess.
always gig em
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Un f/cking believable.

Sumlin, are you awake in there???? Hello????????
Agro1999
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Matt Davis
Joekel
Kenny Hill
Showers

This is a bull**** list. Davis and Joekel were beat out and transferred. Hill apparently had a problem, and showers was beat out . Why are these examples of sumlins ineptitude? You guys just want to ***** about Sumlin and so you make **** up. Just be real with your arguments and stop making **** up like a little *****.
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You people are ridiculous. The kid is a quitter. Did everyone forget that he only started ONE season worth of games?! I am by no means backing up spav but we're 8-4 this isn't the 10 year span where we only saw above .500 seasons 4 times from 2002 to 2011. get a grip. everyone is expecting the next Johnny to come along but that's never gonna happen again.
I know everyone wants to go all the way and win a championship but quite frankly the kid is a quitter and I don't want him on our team.


You don't even need a full season to know you are getting ****ed around. I would have left too. It's one thing to be misused on the field. It's a whole other thing to be misused OFF the field as well.

Face it. Sumlin and Spav treated him like a pawn.
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Another year of being only one spot above t.u.

WSAT

We suck at this!

Why oh lord why couldn't kyler have been the one to transfer?
90ags
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The irony is that other programs have multiple star Qbs and don't have this transfer issue. Suppose, a winning program cures all prima donna ills (or suppresses it a bit).

Hot Corner
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Kyler may still tranfer. He is not our answer. KA will be a star and play in the NFL barring serious injury. It is tough to throw the ball within a bad scheme that is loaded players suffering from a lack of development due to poor coaching. He rarely had good protection and when the protection broke down his receivers quit, ran themselves into coverage or the sideline. Sumlin and s raff totally screwed this up. We are in trouble now.
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Sumlin is Sarkisian 2.0
Rhwill1973
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I'm really bummed about this situation. I believe Kyle Allen was hanhds down our best quarterback. Looking at the five games he started last year and this years healthy games, I was on board with Allen. Like most, I was excited to see what Murray could do, but his passing did not impress me at all. I believe Allen will be playing in the NFL in a couple years and we will be sitting here wondering what the heck happened. I have no clue whois to blame on this one. There are probably all kinds of things going on that we do not know. Bottom line, Murray needed to redshirt, needs a better attitude, and is a huge question mark. I'm getting the feeling that he has divided the locker room.
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I don't blame him for transferring if he read all of the **** everyone talked about him when he struggled. Our fan base is gilded. "Classy" up until the time when we face adversity, then the ugliness is revealed.


So is every fanbase in college football.
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We don't want anyone playing for us that doesn't WANT to be here. There were times you could read it on his face on the sideline that he was a little bit of an arrogant out for himself player. I am sure he will be successful somewhere else, but we will be fine.


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"The first order of business for Sumlin is stepping back and taking an honest look at where the system is flawed and getting to the absolute root of the problem."

The problem is SUMLIN is the root of the problem.

Everyone always slams me when I prop up Sherman but I am not advocating Sheman as the best coach of all time and there are some things that make Sumlin a better college HC than Sherman. My point has always been that Sherman was a better evaluator, recruiter, and developer of talent than Sumlin. This will be proven to be true.

Sherman's offense was also better. Sumlin brought HIS version of the spread and HUNH, but we were already running that under Sherman, we often went 4 and 5 wide, but guess what? We also had a power running game and could F'ing convert 3rd and 1 inside the 5 against Vandy as we wouldn't leave an interior DL unblocked.

We will have an excellent defense next season, but another meddling offense unless Kyler gives up hardball and commits to spring ball and gets serious about being s great QB under a new and dynamic OC.

Sumlin hired a guy to be OC that had NEVER called plays and was 3 years removed from being an offensive GRAD ASSISTANT!!!!

Sumlin is not a great offensive coach, he is just a coach.
phillyag92
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How many years do we keep saying that until a winning attitude is in CS?
brotheraggie
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This is one messed up problem.
John T White
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Kyle Allen is not doing this out of spite or fear that he might lose out to Kyler Murray. He has decided regardless of whether A&M makes an O/C change or not, that he is better off somewhere else. He is saying , among other things, that he does not trust Sumlin anymore.
I cannot recall anything as strange as was Kyle hurt or was he not ? When asked, Sumlin answered, "He is fine." Yet we saw in replays Allen's shoulder getting driven into the ground. Later, he is working with someone who is rotating his arm. "He is fine." What obfuscating, lying b-s.
Under Sumlin, A&M has not been able to get a starting QB to his junior year. How can we improve, breaking in a new starting QB every year? Sorry, but Kyler is not the answer, at least not for next year. Kenny Hill may be starting and doing well for the Frogs next year. What is up?
This is damming of Sumlin and the direction of our program.
Billy says that A&M needs to be in contention for an SEC title next November. Where does he get that expectation from? We spent big bucks on our stadium, and until TU expands again we will have more seats than TU. We recruit well. We pay big bucks to our coaches. None of that guarantees or even increases the odds that we will win in the SEC West. Every school in the West has improved their facilities, pays their coaches well, and has rabid fans. Just because we think it our time does not grant us squat.
Then there is this debacle of LSU playing Tech in Houston. LSU loves to play in Texas. Helps recruiting. And If Tech somehow beats LSU, they will rightfully brag they did something we cannot do-beat LSU.
CAM2014
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You people are ridiculous. The kid is a quitter. Did everyone forget that he only started ONE season worth of games?! I am by no means backing up spav but we're 8-4 this isn't the 10 year span where we only saw above .500 seasons 4 times from 2002 to 2011. get a grip. everyone is expecting the next Johnny to come along but that's never gonna happen again.
I know everyone wants to go all the way and win a championship but quite frankly the kid is a quitter and I don't want him on our team.


You don't even need a full season to know you are getting ****ed around. I would have left too. It's one thing to be misused on the field. It's a whole other thing to be misused OFF the field as well.

Face it. Sumlin and Spav treated him like a pawn.
3 pic sixes thrown against bama the game that turned our season around for the worse. Can't blame spav for that. Please rewatch the Ole Miss Film the kid didn't play that well. He couldn't put the ball in the end zone more than ONCE against VANDY. We have the most talented Wide Outs across the board in the entire country he has all the help he can get out of our offense. He is afraid of the competition which is a bunch of crap. He has no confidence. Let him go.
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SUMLIN gone RUMLIN
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Smart move by Allen if he wants to play NFL. Playing in an Air Raid offense is terrible for one's future
Franklin Delano Bluth
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Need champ bailey on this thread to remind everybody how great sumlin is....
 
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