gonemaroon said:

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Guys we need to pay more for facilities and coaching staff don't you guys get if?

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We are definitely all in on spending the money to get er done.
The problem is beating Georgia and Alabama.
Can we recruit well enough to compete with Saban and Smart ?
I think we can but it will be difficult.

This whole thread is pointless. The old B12 had terrible bowl associations during the BCS era. A much fairer comparison would be if you redid the whole thing but included the Cotton Bowl. It is a major bowl and has crowned it's fair share of National Champions.

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And a terrible decision by JFF on a run that could have sealed the game.

Can't be too mad at a missed 50+ yarder. But he should have made the other one.

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Good! Rip JFF, the only bright spot in the last 20 years.

You are Texagging perfectly.

Cross reference that list with Final Four teams and our athletic standing looks even worse.

One thing that no one can or will deny on here is that A&M has historically underachieved.

Some of it is bad luck like we've never been the least suckiest of a sucky conference with an auto-bid.

Hell, 2012 was kind of bad luck because the SEC was very top/bottom heavy with six teams 10-2 or better and several teams that were abysmal.
That 10-2 would have easily scored a NY6 game this year.

Not piling on, but if you research baseball and basketball "CWS and Elite eights" you could possibly stroke out.

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This is a depressing thread... mostly because OP used actual facts, no speculation, and the results can't be spun

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But there are actually posters trying to spin that the Peach Bowl is a "major" bowl, same with the Cotton Bowl, or the yea but remember 2012 and how awesome that was crowd!

For those that missed the first time. Since 1998, the beginning of the BCS, the Rose, Sugar, Fiesta and Orange Bowls recognized conference champions and/or other top teams. The list below are teams that have not won a conference title or played in a conference championship game since the Aggies one and only year in 1998. As mhayden pointed out, at least some of those schools are "basketball" schools...what is Texas A&M exactly?

Indiana
Iowa State
Kentucky
Minnesota
North Carolina State
Rutgers
TEXAS A&M
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt

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Welp, Virginia gets removed from the list as they will be playing for an ACC title next week.

I'd say Aggie football (and athletics) most associates with Iowa State, Rutgers and Minnesota from this list. At least the other schools have had success in basketball and/or baseball.

Hamburger Dan said:

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Not piling on, but if you research baseball and basketball "CWS and Elite eights" you could possibly stroke out.

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It does get even worse. Thanks!

This thread should just be stuck at the top of TexAgs until/unless we win.

This is a harsh, non opinion driven, analysis of the state of the program that the apologists should have to see and deal with.

That is incredible

It's A&M, Vandy and Kentucky. That's who our performance peers are. Vandy and Kentucky.

Cue apologists: but but Big 12, schedule, last coach bad current coach will be good in x number of years, swag copter. Whatever drivel they espouse.

Ahhh, "the magical '98 season..."

When we lost to tu AND our bowl game.

/BAS

Chilling witg Tech and AZ State

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Welp, Virginia gets removed from the list as they will be playing for an ACC title next week

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I'd say Aggie football (and athletics) most associates with Iowa State, Rutgers and Minnesota from this list. At least the other schools have had success in basketball and/or baseball.

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Yes, compare the SEC West to the ACC Coastal which is so bad that EVERY team has now had a chance to play for the conference championship.

I agree, let's join a crap conference so we can win it and jack off in front of a full length mirror while nobody else anywhere gives a ****.

Ags (and Cyclones) can finally get off this list!

We would've run the table and battled for a natty if we'd stayed in the BDF for 2011-2012

Thanks for the memories JFF. And I still want to have your babies.