Where would you rank Manziel among all quarterbacks in the league?
Right now I would say somewhere between 45-50.
Right now I would say somewhere between 45-50.
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Scale?
Please rank bortles, dalton, Hoyer...
quote:You are high.
Then Manziel 19
quote:Terrible analogy.
That's like trying to determine the best movie of the year despite seeing only the trailer for one movie. Wasn't a great trailer but no way you can tell anything by 6 quarter
quote:quote:Terrible analogy.
That's like trying to determine the best movie of the year despite seeing only the trailer for one movie. Wasn't a great trailer but no way you can tell anything by 6 quarter
He didn't look great in those preseason games. And the Browns saw the whole "movie", everyday in practice and thought he looked worse than Brian Hoyer basically all year.
Lets say he would have played amazing for 6 quarters and then got hurt...you wouldn't be saying "no way to tell if he is that great by only 6 quarters".
quote:Not even the same thing. There is 23 QBs in the NFL HOF from the modern era.quote:quote:Terrible analogy.
That's like trying to determine the best movie of the year despite seeing only the trailer for one movie. Wasn't a great trailer but no way you can tell anything by 6 quarter
He didn't look great in those preseason games. And the Browns saw the whole "movie", everyday in practice and thought he looked worse than Brian Hoyer basically all year.
Lets say he would have played amazing for 6 quarters and then got hurt...you wouldn't be saying "no way to tell if he is that great by only 6 quarters".
Pretty sure everyone would reserve judgment regardless of how he played if it was only 6 qtrs. If he would've played well, everyone would be more optimistic, but I doubt any half way realistic person anoints him a HOFer.
quote:quote:You are high.
Then Manziel 19
QBs better than JFF at this point:
Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Manning, Romo, Flacco, Stafford, Foles, Tannehill, Luck, Brees, Palmer, Newton, Rivers, Rothlisberger, Dalton, M Ryan, A Smith, Wilson, Kap, Orton, Cutler, Hasselbeck, Fitzpatrick, Austin Davis, Sanchez, Michael Vick, Kirk Cousins, Bortles, Jason Campbell, Matt Flynn, Case Kennum, Botles,
That is 33 right there
quote:quote:Terrible analogy.
That's like trying to determine the best movie of the year despite seeing only the trailer for one movie. Wasn't a great trailer but no way you can tell anything by 6 quarter
He didn't look great in those preseason games. And the Browns saw the whole "movie", everyday in practice and thought he looked worse than Brian Hoyer basically all year.
Lets say he would have played amazing for 6 quarters and then got hurt...you wouldn't be saying "no way to tell if he is that great by only 6 quarters".
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quote:Do you even TexAgs, bro?quote:quote:Terrible analogy.
That's like trying to determine the best movie of the year despite seeing only the trailer for one movie. Wasn't a great trailer but no way you can tell anything by 6 quarter
He didn't look great in those preseason games. And the Browns saw the whole "movie", everyday in practice and thought he looked worse than Brian Hoyer basically all year.
Lets say he would have played amazing for 6 quarters and then got hurt...you wouldn't be saying "no way to tell if he is that great by only 6 quarters".
Pretty sure everyone would reserve judgment regardless of how he played if it was only 6 qtrs. If he would've played well, everyone would be more optimistic, but I doubt any half way realistic person anoints him a HOFer.
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Lee Harvey Oswald + John Wilkes Booth = Dumba$$
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Just not a good question with so little playing time and an O-line clearly messed up after injury to their All-Pro center (which is why Hoyer went totally sour for the 2nd half of the season).
quote:There ARE 23 QBs in the NFL HOF from the modern eraquote:Not even the same thing. There is 23 QBs in the NFL HOF from the modern era.quote: