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I just don't know how all these pieces fit together...

-Boyd appears to have made his decision
-We still in-homed for a decent amount of time (it seems)
-We could have offered Demarco this weekend, but we take the risk of holding out (that could impact Kris' decision), yet offer tonight?

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I was thinking this yesterday, maybe summy offered him, in front of his family btw, after learning that boyd was ours?

"Welp, marco, you wanna play with your bro or nah?"

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It should be a blow-out for us. If not, all the bragging about how we are superior to Texas will be BS. Texas handled WV quite handily.

-Ralph 12/9/14

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It appears that Ralph has been a pretty good undercover sip troll for a while now.

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seemed to appear like he is leaning A&M? Is it genuine or is he doing it to build the suspense for his decision.

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Its you. Boyd, Hill and Mack are Texas leans

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Says who?

Getting blown out and and putting one crappy team on the field is all the more amazing that Chollie will end up out recruiting Sumlin, when it is all said and done. You can say what you want and bury your head in the sand, but the fact is Chollie will end up with a higher class. I said this a month ago and all you naysayers can now eat crow.

All that work, Ralph. Guess you decided today was the day to come out?

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Getting blown out and and putting one crappy team on the field is all the more amazing that Chollie will end up out recruiting Sumlin, when it is all said and done. You can say what you want and bury your head in the sand, but the fact is Chollie will end up with a higher class. I said this a month ago and all you naysayers can now eat crow.

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1. No one believes you are an Ag so drop the act

2. Sumlin has beat Strong for 14 out of 17 head to heads on the trail. Strong can't make up that deficit even if he sweeps the remaining targets.

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I am really disappointed in our recruiting. Chavis is supposed to be the man to close the deal. And since we have hired him, all the high recruits are running to Chollie. Makes no sense, but Chollie is eating a new ass____ with Sumlin. We are worse off than with Mack at Texas. It appears Texas Hired the right coach.

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I hope you drown at Ketch's next bukakke party.

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You can say what you want and bury your head in the sand, but the fact is Chollie will end up with a higher class.

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Franchione out recruited Brown a couple of times. It did not change on field results.

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You can say what you want and bury your head in the sand, but the fact is Chollie will end up with a higher class.

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Franchione out recruited Brown a couple of times. It did not change on field results.

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Strong is a loser at texas (6-7) with a roster full of 4 and 5 star kids. Talent isn't his problem.

viva torrente and Leather Tuscadero should go in on a timeshare together. They can don their little foil hats and split a big bowl of spaghetti, Lady & the Tramp style.

To reiterate why I think they are the two worst posters on this forum:

viva torrente's only contribution is to constantly bombard us with his belief that all recruiting is based only on money and right now Strong is offering more cash to the players, hence their interest. He thinks Sumlin should match their offers or even offer more. Not only is this BS ridiculous, it implies that any success we have on the recruiting trail is bought and not earned.

Leather Tuscadero has referenced Sumlin's head to head recruiting battle with Strong no less than 34,000 times on texags. It's literally her (allegedly, she's a "girl," picturing list eater) only contribution and it's starting to look more and more odious.

I would take 10k sip trolls over their counter productive BAD B*LLSH*T every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Strong is a loser at texas (6-7) with a roster full of 4 and 5 star kids. Talent isn't his problem.

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This.

All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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Strong is a loser at texas (6-7) with a roster full of 4 and 5 star kids. Talent isn't his problem.

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This.

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I like how the consensus on this board is it takes 4 years for a coach to get "his guys" before you can make a call on him, yet we are able to determine that Strong is a loser after 1 season.

Must be 2016 then. Regardless of who tu gets, they're going to be bad next year.

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All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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Pretty sure the big dogs in the conference are going to have something to say about that.

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Leather Tuscadero has referenced Sumlin's head to head recruiting battle with Strong no less than 34,000 times on texags. It's literally her (allegedly, she's a "girl," picturing list eater) only contribution and it's starting to look more and more odious.

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I'm sorry a simple fact pisses you off. Until it changes I'll continuously repeat it. The fact that when Sumlin and Strong both offer a kid , 82% of the time that kid picks Sumlin is quite telling.

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Strong is a loser at texas (6-7) with a roster full of 4 and 5 star kids. Talent isn't his problem.

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This.

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I like how the consensus on this board is it takes 4 years for a coach to get "his guys" before you can make a call on him, yet we are able to determine that Strong is a loser after 1 season.

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He's a loser because that's what his record says he is.

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All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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Briles and Patterson own strong with a bunch of 2 and 3 star kids. Good luck.

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All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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Briles and Patterson own strong with a bunch of 2 and 3 star kids. Good luck.

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Agree. The top of the conference is very strong.

unfortunately i think Boyd and Hill are both goin Sip.

Ralph4 = sip

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Leather Tuscadero has referenced Sumlin's head to head recruiting battle with Strong no less than 34,000 times on texags. It's literally her (allegedly, she's a "girl," picturing list eater) only contribution and it's starting to look more and more odious.

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I'm sorry a simple fact pisses you off. Until it changes I'll continuously repeat it. The fact that when Sumlin and Strong both offer a kid , 82% of the time that kid picks Sumlin is quite telling.

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So I'm just curious, if, after NSD, tu finished with a higher ranked recruiting class than us, have they "won" this year? Or does the fact that we got more players that both schools offered matter more?

The bottom line: your obsession with a head-to-head with tu is 100% counterproductive. If you looked at our 2012 season (the best season we had had in over a generation), how many of those players on those squads were won in head-to-head battles with tu? versus their team that won like 5 games?

IT DOESN'T MATTER

COACHING DOES

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I would take 10k sip trolls over their counter productive BAD B*LLSH*T every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Of course you would since you are a sip troll yourself.

Go **** yourself, you A&M obsessed whorn poster child for abortion.

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All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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Texas needs to worry about beating Baylor first. Isn't it 4 out of the last 5 now?

When you are comparing two recruiters a gauge of how they do on head to heads is the best measure in terms of being able to convince kids to play for you. Basically, Strong and Sumlin saw 17 kids that were worth of a scholarship. 14 of those felt their future was better with Sumlin. Sumlin was more effective in selling his message.

As far as coaching, Sumlin is a better offensive guy than Watson/Wickline. Chavis is a better defensive guy than Bedford/Strong.

strong couldn't beat tcu and baylor (and was not really competitive in either game) with a better roster than he will have next year if he gets everybody left (kyler, lodge, boyd, hill, mack, soso, etc.).

The problem is he has trouble beating teams with a pulse. While there aren't many of those in the big12, they are a few there.

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As far as coaching, Sumlin is a better offensive guy than Watson/Wickline. Chavis is a better defensive guy than Bedford/Strong.

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This. Both Watson and Bedford were fired from their last OC/DC jobs in the big12.

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When you are comparing two recruiters a gauge of how they do on head to heads is the best measure in terms of being able to convince kids to play for you. Basically, Strong and Sumlin saw 17 kids that were worth of a scholarship. 14 of those felt their future was better with Sumlin. Sumlin was more effective in selling his message.

As far as coaching, Sumlin is a better offensive guy than Watson/Wickline. Chavis is a better defensive guy than Bedford/Strong.

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I don't know why I continue to go round and round with you on so many threads haha

Your analysis simplifies recruiting and proves nothing. There are so many other factors that lead to a kid accepting a scholarship for School A over School B. Position coaches, proximity, depth chart, friends/family. the list is endless. Your argument accounts for none of that,

I am not saying Strong is better than Sumlin, but don't throw numbers out there like "Sumlin wins 85% of the time!" That is so misleading

All new coaches get a recruiting bump when they sign up at a big name school. We saw it with fran here.

The question becomes can strong do enough with the bump on the field to sustain it.

If it was close that might be true. But 14 out of 17 is an ass kicking. That's the type of domination Mack used to lay on Fran/Sherman.

Put it this way. Sumlin wants 3 kids on the sips commit list. Strong wants 14 kids on ours.

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All UT has to do is win the Big 12 and they are in the four team playoff. You heard it here first. That will happen within two years.

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A. No it won't.
B. Texas wouldn't have gotten into the playoff this year if they'd won the Big 12.

Ralph4 = realistic Ag who can see thru the bullsh-- the Cool-aid drinkers throw out. I would say a 59-0 thrashing in a coaches second year throws up a major warning flag. I say a higher recruiting class in a coaches first year throws up a warning flag to the Ag's. I can not stand the SIP midget coach, but I see some very troubling signs out there in the AG's versus SIP's recruiting. And recruiting makes or breaks you for years to come and I see the rise of the SIP's once again coming.

Texas' DL was anchored by a 5 star DT that's about to be drafted and a bunch of 4 star kids. With that in mind, the last place team in our division ran it up their ass. I'm not sure a 5 star DT like mack is their solution.

How I don't know how the head to heads were but fran finished with a higher ranked class than mack twice. The problem is those classes were big classes filled with reaches, grade risks, and head cases. strong's has at least four grade risks (wheeler, major, lampkin, and clarington) and has numbers overall to pump up its rating. Looking at it now, it definitely has some fran like red flags.

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I'm not sure a 5 star DT like mack is their solution.

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Not when their DT depth is awful. mack is going to get worn down like our freshman DTs did but he has even less depth.