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Maroon Flash
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Evidently Durkin is going somewhere, because Geoff Collins is going to Florida. Durkin wouldn't be a bad option for us. I wouldn't even care if we took Collins from Florida since he has given his notice at MSU.
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I posted this once before but just run with me on this idea. If we re-hire Snyder and pay him more money than we did last time, maybe he will be motivated to try harder and the defense will improve?
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I posted this once before but just run with me on this idea. If we re-hire Snyder and pay him more money than we did last time, maybe he will be motivated to try harder and the defense will improve?
Gator2Wes05
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I like how Looch is playing the "rising star" card now with Durkin. Don't get me wrong, he could well end up being a great hire, but he's not the "homerun hire" we were promised.

"Hold on Lois, I mean a boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could be a boat! You know how much we've wanted one of those..."
TLA
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I posted this once before but just run with me on this idea. If we re-hire Snyder and pay him more money than we did last time, maybe he will be motivated to try harder and the defense will improve?
We'd probably have to bring Darnell back as co-defensive coordinator for this to really work.
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I posted this once before but just run with me on this idea. If we re-hire Snyder and pay him more money than we did last time, maybe he will be motivated to try harder and the defense will improve?


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I like how Looch is playing the "rising star" card now with Durkin. Don't get me wrong, he could well end up being a great hire, but he's not the "homerun hire" we were promised.
As a DC he had the #5 defense in 2013 and #9 defense in 2014 while coaching in the very conference we play in.

What is your definition of a home run hire and how does he not fit it?
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I posted this once before but just run with me on this idea. If we re-hire Snyder and pay him more money than we did last time, maybe he will be motivated to try harder and the defense will improve?
This.
Reginald Cousins
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What is your definition of a home run hire and how does he not fit it?
A (football) household name that has many many many more years of success.

HTH.
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What is your definition of a home run hire and how does he not fit it?
A (football) household name that has many many many more years of success.

HTH.
Reginald Cousins
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It's really quite simple, just close your eyes and think of Saban's resume as a head coach. Now reverse it... think of a DC that would fit that even half that resume... there's your home run. IMO Foster is the home run over Muschamp (by definition, don't get me wrong, not knocking WM at all), due to where he's been, the defenses he's put together with arguably less talent and been doing it longer.
DM44
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I like how Looch is playing the "rising star" card now with Durkin. Don't get me wrong, he could well end up being a great hire, but he's not the "homerun hire" we were promised.
As a DC he had the #5 defense in 2013 and #9 defense in 2014 while coaching in the very conference we play in.

What is your definition of a home run hire and how does he not fit it?

You may be correct Olaf.
Anyway, he has to be an improvement over what we've had.
Plus, he is trusted enought to be HC for their bowl game.

But, check his defenses prior to Florida.
Were the top 10 defenses due to Durkin or Muschamp?

I am just asking, I haven't checked his background.
Olaf
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But, check his defenses prior to Florida.
Were the top 10 defenses due to Durkin or Muschamp?

I am just asking, I haven't checked his background.
Completely agree here.

Just trying to point out that just because someone isn't named Muschamp or Foster doesn't mean they can't be a phenomenal fit.
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I like how Looch is playing the "rising star" card now with Durkin. Don't get me wrong, he could well end up being a great hire, but he's not the "homerun hire" we were promised.
As a DC he had the #5 defense in 2013 and #9 defense in 2014 while coaching in the very conference we play in.

What is your definition of a home run hire and how does he not fit it?

You may be correct Olaf.
Anyway, he has to be an improvement over what we've had.
Plus, he is trusted enought to be HC for their bowl game.

But, check his defenses prior to Florida.
Were the top 10 defenses due to Durkin or Muschamp?

I am just asking, I haven't checked his background.
Florida was his first DC job.

Coached LBs at FL from 2010-2012.
Coached DEs at Stanford from 2007-2009.
DM44
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Interesting write up on Durkin.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2013/dj-durkin-florida-defensive-coordinator/
Reginald Cousins
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But, check his defenses prior to Florida.
Were the top 10 defenses due to Durkin or Muschamp?

I am just asking, I haven't checked his background.
Completely agree here.

Just trying to point out that just because someone isn't named Muschamp or Foster doesn't mean they can't be a phenomenal fit.
No one was arguing that... but a phenomenal fit =/= home run. It takes time and then they're looked at in retrospect as a home run... which I'm fine with BTW, but people are expecting "the hire" to be a home run.
Texam90
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No one was arguing that... but a phenomenal fit =/= home run. It takes time and then they're looked at in retrospect as a home run... which I'm fine with BTW, but people are expecting "the hire" to be a homerun.

This.
Olaf
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No one was arguing that... but a phenomenal fit =/= home run. It takes time and then they're looked at in retrospect as a home run... which I'm fine with BTW, but people are expecting "the hire" to be a home run.

Unfortunately there are plenty of people arguing that.

But hey, if we get Durkin, I will be happy!
Reginald Cousins
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No one was arguing that... but a phenomenal fit =/= home run. It takes time and then they're looked at in retrospect as a home run... which I'm fine with BTW, but people are expecting "the hire" to be a home run.

Unfortunately there are plenty of people arguing that.

But hey, if we get Durkin, I will be happy!
Good point. I guess I meant I wasn't arguing that... but that's my definition of a home run since you asked why he wasn't. Ever since it was referred to as a splash hire or home run or whatever, the only options for TexAgs are 15+ year DC's with 75% top 10 defenses, i.e., home runs... lol.
Reginald Cousins
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Olaf
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Good point. I guess I meant I wasn't arguing that... but that's my definition of a home run since you asked why he wasn't. Ever since it was referred to as a splash hire or home run or whatever, the only options for TexAgs are 15+ year DC's with 75% top 10 defenses, i.e., home runs... lol.

Spot on. And its getting annoying b/c there's a legitimate chance that some of these guys we are looking over could do a better job than some "home run hire." Although if we get Foster that'd be great.
DM44
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It's time to trust in Sumlin.
He knows how important this DC hire is for him.

If it's Durkin, some will grumble for awhile.
Heck, if it's Foster, some will grumble for awhile.
But, if the Aggie defense comes around next season....everybody is happy!
Maroon Flash
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Since we missed on 1a, Hyman needs to still have a very good 1c on the line in case we whiff on 1b.

Time for the candidate to either crap or get off the pot.
DIEitCOKE
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That is a interesting write-up DM44
SpicewoodAg
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I like how Looch is playing the "rising star" card now with Durkin. Don't get me wrong, he could well end up being a great hire, but he's not the "homerun hire" we were promised.

"Hold on Lois, I mean a boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could be a boat! You know how much we've wanted one of those..."
Who promised a home run hire?
Brakeman
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We don't want Gerkin Jerkin Durkin
Dave Knesek
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we were promised
who promised you jack squat?
AgBeliever
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Durkin would be a great hire. Maybe not a home run, but definitely a bases loaded double.

I'm starting to think all this Foster talk is bullcrap. If so, Durkin is probably the next best option.
Josh Painter
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We don't want Gerkin Jerkin Durkin
I don't believe "we" in this context means what you think it means.
WolfCall
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But, if the Aggie defense comes around next season....everybody is happy!
That depends on what your definition of "comes around" is. And, when was the last time you could say "everyone is happy" about our defense on TexAgs?
aggiehawg
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Simple question, if Durkin was great at recruiting and coaching for a Muschamp defense, why didn't Muschamp take him to Auburn with him? Muschamp took Robinson and gave him a million dollar salary.

DC to a position coach is a demotion, of course, but a raise is a raise.
Bachelor99
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i'd be satisfied with durkin at DC...and im sure he will receive a hefty raise from what he was making @ UF...
AgBeliever
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Robinson is making one mil as a DB coach at Auburn now?

Last I heard, he was still at Florida making less than a third of that.
DM44
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T. Robinson must be one heck of a recruiter.

2014 Asst. coach salaries at Florida.

OC Roper $700,000
DC Durkin $500,000
T. Robinson $510,000

B. Lawing $400,000
B. White $300,000
C. Hutzler $240,000
D. Lewis $225,000
M. Summers $200,000
C. Leak $150,000

aggiehawg
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Robinson is making one mil as a DB coach at Auburn now?

Last I heard, he was still at Florida making less than a third of that.
That was the original report. Robinson may be having some second thoughts on staying at Florida. Other reports have Shannon being offered the LB coaching job at Auburn.

All of this speculation only goes to show Muschamp still has a wide-open checkbook for staff.
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