The way the Defense has played they were not going to win this game today even of Johnny played better than expected.

The Cleveland Browns ... sucking ever since John Elway beat them in the '86 AFC Championship.

Da Dawgs.... Bahahaha

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Wow. Nice blocking. Are they letting them through on purpose? What suckage.

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It is that bad.

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Muy yup it's been that bad.

But Rodgers does the discount double-check!

it feels like hoyer paid the rest of the team not to try

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But Rodgers does the discount double-check!

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he's actually accomplished something on the filed to back it up

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Johnny would also be smart to keep his head down and not show off until he actually does anything in this league. All he does is make defensive players want to hurt him and there is no reason to give them any extra incentive. I think the USA Today headline earlier this week was accurate when it said Johnny needs to act like a rookie.

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What has he done that is not rookie-like? I don't get where the hate is coming from. He acted a fool in college where he was the best player on the field. Now he just goes to work and goes to night clubs like 90% of pro athletes.

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Self promoting and show me the money, it is unnecessary and immature. Brain Bilicheck just said on the NFL network that when he scores and doesn't do the show me the money then the coaches will know they might have something they can work with.

It is not hate to want an Ag to act mature, just as I would with my own son.

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Oh. So you want him to not act like everyone else in the NFL, including rookies, I get it.

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TxAg76, I hope you are a woman. Everyone can see that the other 10 players are not giving Johnny any help. Yes, Johnny is struggling. But, as everyone here has tried to explain to you, so is the rest of the Brown team today.

It's a team sport.

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Dang dude. Your JFF man crush has you blind. He's not getting much help today, no doubt, but when he's had his windows he's not helping his cause.
I haven't been dogging on JFF, I hope he does well, although I've always questioned whether or not his game will translate up to NFL level. Today is evidence of that.
Go change your tampon

No comment on that pass from Dalton being high.

Okay time for a JFF miracle comeback and a 24 - 23 win.

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No comment on that pass from Dalton being high.

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Good lord certainly you can see a difference........Wondering if a Rookie can get it right doesn't require commenting on every bad play by a vet.

If the Browns were able to run the ball on the Bengals like the Bengals have on the Browns, this would be a completely different game. Instead, thr Browns suck sooooo bad in all phases. They need to get whatwver QB they got some protection and some receivers. Christ.

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No comment on that pass from Dalton being high.

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Maybe because Dalton's team is up by 23 and he isn't playing like dogsh/t?

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If the Browns were able to run the ball on the Bengals like the Bengals have on the Browns, this would be a completely different game. Instead, thr Browns suck sooooo bad in all phases. They need to get whatwver QB they got some protection and some receivers. Christ.

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Don't even bother trying to talk sense to him. Dude is either a troll or an idiot.

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Wow, ok. Side note, have you found where those announcers weren't making true statements?

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If the Browns were able to run the ball on the Bengals like the Bengals have on the Browns, this would be a completely different game. Instead, thr Browns suck sooooo bad in all phases. They need to get whatwver QB they got some protection and some receivers. Christ.

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They won 7 with Hoyer at QB.

Announcers saying how Manziel is still young, can be a success, and that his receivers aren't helping him out. They HATE Manziel.

Dear announcer, what pocket is Johnny supposed to be throwing from?

That was a nice throw, in stride.

This Browns team SUCKS!!!

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Dear announcer, what pocket is Johnny supposed to be throwing from?

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JFF was a pocket QB in college. ?? Interesting.

What was that flag

Pointing out that a rookie QB isn't going to win in his first start when the rest of the team is playing like crap means I have a man crush on Johnny?

TxAg76 has to be a woman. Nobody can be that clueless on football.

they seriously can't move forward without going backwards

There's that awesome pocket... geezsh Oline!

Why is it offensive pass interference for blocking on a screen pass?

Behind the line I think you can block before the catch but not across the line.

The right tackle must be Hoyer's bunk mate... either that, or a matador, because HE SUCKS

Getting boo'd in your debut...

Okay, the money taunting is old already. JFF has been nothing but professional in the NFL (besides flipping the bird). We get it, you're a big bad D line ma n. Too bad the Oline is garbage.

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Pointing out that a rookie QB isn't going to win in his first start when the rest of the team is playing like crap means I have a man crush on Johnny?

TxAg76 has to be a woman. Nobody can be that clueless on football.

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Now you're just being an idiot. If you go back and read every comment I've made on this thread objectively (with your JFF man crush on the shelf), you'll see I've done nothing but state fact, plus one sarcastic prod about the speed of NFL db's.
They start at p7.

Texans rookie throwing down field
Really wish Johnny could get some vertical passing calls

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Okay, the money taunting is old already. JFF has been nothing but professional in the NFL (besides flipping the bird). We get it, you're a big bad D line ma n. Too bad the Oline is garbage.

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It was old when Johnny kept doing it too, just as Cam's superman is old and dumb also.

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No comment on that pass from Dalton being high.

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Good lord certainly you can see a difference........Wondering if a Rookie can get it right doesn't require commenting on every bad play by a vet.

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So sorry if I've offended you in some way. I didn't say it was a bad play by Dalton. It was a good throw, but high because it had to get over the line. The same throw by Johnny warranted comment from the announcers, as others noted. I'm simply expressing my annoyance. Wondering if a rookie can get it right also doesn't require pointing out every single mistake that isn't exactly a mistake. This has been a terrible game all around, and Johnny hasn't looked good, but the high throws aren't worth commenting on every time, especially on a screen pass that is almost always thrown high, even by vets. But I'll stop commenting so I don't bother you further.

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Okay, the money taunting is old already. JFF has been nothing but professional in the NFL (besides flipping the bird). We get it, you're a big bad D line ma n. Too bad the Oline is garbage.

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It was old when Johnny kept doing it too, just as Cam's superman is old and dumb also.

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I haven't seen Johnny do it yet in the pros. I could be mistaken though.