quote:So are we still saying that there is an 80% chance of getting Muschamp, Venables or Foster?
Not saying hes the guy but theres more to it than random postings on a VT mssg board.
quote:So are we still saying that there is an 80% chance of getting Muschamp, Venables or Foster?
Not saying hes the guy but theres more to it than random postings on a VT mssg board.
quote:So what your saying is they do have influence. My experience is anyone who is paying the bill has a voice no matter what they say in public.
The BMAs are watching the DC search/hire VERY closely, and are involved to the extent that money is needed to pay for said coach, but make no mistake- this is Sumlin's hire. He gets to put together his staff. BMAs may influence a HC hire, overstepping the AD, but they don't tell the HC (at least this one) WHO to hire as his DC. They do, however, pull the ultimate rip cord on that HC, if needed, and this hire will be very telling as to just what kind of HC Sumlin is. His track record to date in this area is not something they have been impressed with.
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Why all the Bud Foster rumors?
quote:Agreed, it will tell us what kind of coach Sumlin is.
The BMAs are watching the DC search/hire VERY closely, and are involved to the extent that money is needed to pay for said coach, but make no mistake- this is Sumlin's hire. He gets to put together his staff. BMAs may influence a HC hire, overstepping the AD, but they don't tell the HC (at least this one) WHO to hire as his DC. They do, however, pull the ultimate rip cord on that HC, if needed, and this hire will be very telling as to just what kind of HC Sumlin is. His track record to date in this area is not something they have been impressed with.
quote:They have a voice so far as "coach X is worth $Y"...not "hey Sumlin, we want you to go hire coach X". It's far more important to find out if the head of your program can really run a program than to dictate what DC to hire, when that DC could likely be moving on to a better gig in a year or two.quote:So what your saying is they do have influence. My experience is anyone who is paying the bill has a voice no matter what they say in public.
The BMAs are watching the DC search/hire VERY closely, and are involved to the extent that money is needed to pay for said coach, but make no mistake- this is Sumlin's hire. He gets to put together his staff. BMAs may influence a HC hire, overstepping the AD, but they don't tell the HC (at least this one) WHO to hire as his DC. They do, however, pull the ultimate rip cord on that HC, if needed, and this hire will be very telling as to just what kind of HC Sumlin is. His track record to date in this area is not something they have been impressed with.
quote:head coaches who hire under qualified staff and don't believe both offense and defense are important also lead to bad football programs.
People who give money think they should call the shots. This is what leads to bad football programs. Until there is recognition that people are giving money to the program for others to make decisions, the football program will struggle with the 'good ol' boy' problems.
quote:It is an unfortunate fact of life. Put yourself in their shoes, would you blindly fork over big bucks or would you want to know where your money is going? The AD has to sell it to them, so it is natural for them to have some input.
People who give money think they should call the shots. This is what leads to bad football programs. Until there is recognition that people are giving money to the program for others to make decisions, the football program will struggle with the 'good ol' boy' problems.
quote:KK had 2 years of real experience prior to being named our OC (he had 2 as a QC grad assistant, and 2 as QB coach/co-OC). I guess you give him the benefit of the doubt because he was coming along with Sumlin and at least already (co)held a title of OC, but that's very, very little experience calling plays, and absolutely none calling plays against real competition (i.e., SEC). If you remember back to the beginning of that year, our offense looked like ****. Then they turned Manziel loose and suddenly we were world-beaters. Tech (his alma-mater) being blinded by their teen girl/movie star crush and hiring him does not prove he was a great OC. Look at their offense there...at they're playing against garbage Big 12 teams right now.
mpaggie06 I've seen you posting this stuff and most of it is either not true or from a highly nuanced point of view. I think most people would have agreed that Kingsbury was a very good OC. You have denigrated him by implication in multiple posts. He moved on to a Head Coaching position which no one blames him for, who wouldn't? Was he ready to move up? That is a good question.
Now there are concerns about McKinney's play calling but his numbers were pretty good (I know Manziel). Spavital by everyone's account is an up and coming QB coach. His debut year was not the best offensive showing but according to Football Outsiders the adjusted ranking for the A&M offense was 20th. Considering everything that's not terrible. I bet if he is the OC next year you see a much better offense.
For your point about whiffing on Narduzzi, Bill Byrne essential confirmed it was money that cost us Narduzzi. Now if true who's fault is that? I think some "BMAs" need to look in the mirror on that one.
I agree with aTmAg you seem to have a highly nuanced view of certain events. It seems as if you are talking with "BMAs" who share that nuanced view. Reality is not so clear cut.
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we ought to have someone with a few years under their belts.
quote:Just to reiterate for 300th time, UH was top 15 in offense with a 4th string QB after Keenum got hurt. No argument that Johnny covered up some deficiencies on defense, but his offenses have had great numbers with just decent QBs.quote:Agreed, it will tell us what kind of coach Sumlin is.
The BMAs are watching the DC search/hire VERY closely, and are involved to the extent that money is needed to pay for said coach, but make no mistake- this is Sumlin's hire. He gets to put together his staff. BMAs may influence a HC hire, overstepping the AD, but they don't tell the HC (at least this one) WHO to hire as his DC. They do, however, pull the ultimate rip cord on that HC, if needed, and this hire will be very telling as to just what kind of HC Sumlin is. His track record to date in this area is not something they have been impressed with.
So far he is the kind of coach (at both A&M and UH) that needs a seriously bad ass QB to cover his ass. With a player like JM, you can scoop a lot of dog turds under the mat and no one will protest too much.
If no one is brought in to seriously upgrade our defense, I think it will be pretty clear Sumlin continues to rely on a bad ass QB. This is the SEC, it is almost doable but not totally doable without several other components on the team.
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Just to reiterate for 300th time, UH was top 15 in offense with a 4th string QB after Keenum got hurt. No argument that Johnny covered up some deficiencies on defense, but his offenses have had great numbers with just decent QBs.
I do agree, however, that we need to become a more complete team on both sides of the ball to truly compete in the SEC.
quote:Never claimed any different, just making the point that you can't pin the offensive success at UH on a stud QB.quote:
Just to reiterate for 300th time, UH was top 15 in offense with a 4th string QB after Keenum got hurt. No argument that Johnny covered up some deficiencies on defense, but his offenses have had great numbers with just decent QBs.
I do agree, however, that we need to become a more complete team on both sides of the ball to truly compete in the SEC.
Just to reiterate for the 299th time, UH is in C-USA.
I'm not saying Sumlin's offense can't work- we've seen it work. But something is not translating from scheme to on field result. I think over 100k people can see that play calling kept us out of several games. Sumlin was getting it done as a play caller at OU at a higher level. I'm not his offense doesn't work. I am saying it hasn't worked like it should have here, so far, outside of what Manziel did himself.
quote:quote:It is an unfortunate fact of life. Put yourself in their shoes, would you blindly fork over big bucks or would you want to know where your money is going? The AD has to sell it to them, so it is natural for them to have some input.
People who give money think they should call the shots. This is what leads to bad football programs. Until there is recognition that people are giving money to the program for others to make decisions, the football program will struggle with the 'good ol' boy' problems.
quote:A good salesman can lead the buyer in the direction he wants while allowing the buyer to think he is making the decision all on his own.quote:quote:It is an unfortunate fact of life. Put yourself in their shoes, would you blindly fork over big bucks or would you want to know where your money is going? The AD has to sell it to them, so it is natural for them to have some input.
People who give money think they should call the shots. This is what leads to bad football programs. Until there is recognition that people are giving money to the program for others to make decisions, the football program will struggle with the 'good ol' boy' problems.
That's the concern, though. The AD must sell the boosters on the fact that they should give the department money and let the department make those decisions. If you have boosters making calls on who the coaches are, then they should be running the athletic department.
That is why the AD's most important thing is raising money for the athletics department, and most importantly, football. He has to garner trust from big time boosters that he has their best interests (winning) at the forefront. If he can't gain that trust/respect, then you have the bosters calling the shots which, in my opinion, leads to problems.