All things won't be equal between baylor and tcu. They have a top 25 Minnesota baylor has buffalo and baylor has a loss to a 5 loss team

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expect this top 4 on Tuesday:

1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. TCU

but if Ohio State beats Wisconsin with their 3rd string QB -- the Buckeyes will move to #4.

interesting though -- not sure Bama, Oregon, or FSU would be eliminated with a loss next week. They may have already clinched a spot.

even a 2-loss Bama or 2-loss Oregon that has played an extra game would be ranked ahead of Baylor IMO

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But in a scenario where Ohio St wins (tough game), Fla St wins (who knows with them.....) and TCU wins (probable), a two loss bama or oregon would not be in ahead of those schools.

The whole damned thing should be weighted heavily toward SOS. Someone mentioned the SEC cannibalising their own, and that is true. And that is especially true for the SEC West. I'm a Sooner fan, but not blind. The SEC West is like playing in the NFL light.

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Baylor's non-conf schedule. Heard MANY analysts comment on it and that the committee does not look favorably on them.

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Well, that and their in-conference schedule.

Baylor has beaten a top 10 team & TCU hasn't.

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Baylor's non-conf schedule. Heard MANY analysts comment on it and that the committee does not look favorably on them.

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Well, that and their in-conference schedule.

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This is a good point but ashley makes a good one as well. but for whatever reason tcu just seems the more legit of the two. Maybe it's just years of having watched baylor while we were in the big 12 as unfair as that sounds. Maybe it's the asskicking they took from Oklahoma state last year. There's just something wrong about a team that scores 60+points on their regular competition and then gets beat or challenged by the good teams they see every 5th game or so.

If either gets in there I really want to see how they do against a really physical team.

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I believe TCU is better than Baylor. But, if the both finish 11-1, Baylor has to go. Head to lead has to be the deciding factor with equal records. Of course, the Bears may not bear KS.

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I believe TCU is better than Baylor. But, if the both finish 11-1, Baylor has to go. Head to lead has to be the deciding factor with equal records. Of course, the Bears may not bear KS.

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PI think everyone agrees if all things are equal. Clearly, that is not the case w baylor and TCU. Tcu is better w the eyeball test and that OOC is going to haunt baylor, as it should.

You forgetting Baylor that beat a higher ranked opponent.
The weekly tournament aspect of college football cannot be dismissed.

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I believe TCU is better than Baylor. But, if the both finish 11-1, Baylor has to go. Head to lead has to be the deciding factor with equal records. Of course, the Bears may not bear KS.

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The committee already doesn't care about the head to head

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The committee already doesn't care about the head to head

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I can't imagine how pissed we'd be if we were sitting in Baylor's situation (not that I'm going to lose any sleep over that).

However, the above quote is true. Why would the committee be inclined to change their mind about the pecking order now? TCU had their close game and already lost to baylor before being 2 spots ahead. Baylor's close game against a bad team with a losing record happened yesterday.

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I believe TCU is better than Baylor. But, if the both finish 11-1, Baylor has to go. Head to lead has to be the deciding factor with equal records. Of course, the Bears may not bear KS.

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WRONG. Remember its the entire resume, not just head to head. Baylor's SOS is laughable. They beat down nobody's. And the skeleton in their closet is the loss to WVU(who has 5 losses) and by 14 pts at that. That is being looked upon very unfavorably. This is why TCu is getting the nod. And TCu's loss was by 2 on the road against Baylor.

Say we tie Bama @ 11-1. The beat USC, osu & OU in non con. We beat Lamar, Rice & Sam but we beat Bama at Kyle by 1. Witch team would you move into the playoff.

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Say we tie Bama @ 11-1. The beat USC, osu & OU in non con. We beat Lamar, Rice & Sam but we beat Bama at Kyle by 1. Witch team would you move into the playoff.

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Who did we lose to?

Pick anyone you want.

If our loss was to a ****ty team and bama barely lost to us, while they had a much better SOS, they should go.

So why did we bother to play.

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If our loss was to a ****ty team and bama barely lost to us, while they had a much better SOS, they should go.

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Clearly this is the way the committee sees it.

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So why did we bother to play.

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To establish part of the overall body of work. Would this matter if there were 8 teams in the playoff? No.

Edit - we would be talking about #'s 9 &10 though.

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So why did we bother to play.

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Because one game doesnt make a season

What if it was the last game of the year?

-TCU lost on the road by a FG at the very end of the game (after some very dubious officiating that even the commentators pointed out). Baylor lost by 2TDs to a 7-5 West Virginia team.
-TCU has a considerably better SoS due to smacking around a ranked Minnesota team in non-conf.

Not a huge difference, but you have to make decisions based on something

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So why did we bother to play.

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To establish part of the overall body of work. Would this matter if there were 8 teams in the playoff? No.

Edit - we would be talking about #'s 9 &10 though.

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Only if we were one of them.

If Bama, FSU, Oregon and Ohio State all win, neither best or frog will get in. One loss from those 4 teams and baylor or frog is in, 2 losses from those teams and baylor and frog are in - assuming bear and frog don't lose their last games. I hope petty is out and KSU BTHO bear.

Reasonably sure Bama, Oregon, and FSU win. But I think Ohio Sate loses playing essentially 3rd string QB.

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-TCU lost on the road by a FG at the very end of the game (after some very dubious officiating that even the commentators pointed out). Baylor lost by 2TDs to a 7-5 West Virginia team.
-TCU has a considerably better SoS due to smacking around a ranked Minnesota team in non-conf.

Not a huge difference, but you have to make decisions based on something

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This.

I know people throw around the phrase "we got robbed", but I think TCU has a legitimate case that the Baylor game was taken from them. Those two calls that went against them were incredibly bad.


It's like the non-offsides that went against A&M X 2!

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I believe TCU is better than Baylor. But, if the both finish 11-1, Baylor has to go. Head to lead has to be the deciding factor with equal records. Of course, the Bears may not bear KS.

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WRONG. Remember its the entire resume, not just head to head. Baylor's SOS is laughable. They beat down nobody's. And the skeleton in their closet is the loss to WVU(who has 5 losses) and by 14 pts at that. That is being looked upon very unfavorably. This is why TCu is getting the nod. And TCu's loss was by 2 on the road against Baylor.







A couple of committee members have mentioned scheduling. And I hope they mean what they say when they say it will matter.

The idea that you can just schedule 3 cupcakes--though, honestly, to call the teams Baylor played cupcakes is even being charitable--and count on conference wins is just bull****.

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I find it somewhat amusing when folks refer to us as 'Aggie' or some variation of the spelling. This is probably because I know it's intended to be insulting. But referring to 'bear' or 'frog' in the singular is something I hope does not catch on. Sounds kind of ignernt.

a major development...with OU (8-4) going down to defeat and probably dropping out of the committee's top 25.

TCU will only have 1 top 25 win (KSU)

Baylor will at most have 2 top 25 wins (TCU & maybe KSU)

both resumes just got weaker -- reducing the chance that both would make the playoff

and if Ohio State wins tonight -- neither may make the playoff

Neither, Ohio St wins big tonight and gets the #4 seed over both.

I don't really see how "schedule" is even brought up when discussing these two teams in comparison to one another. TCU and Baylor played schedules that are as identical to each other as is possible really.

At exactly what point after the WV loss should Baylol have passed TCU? Please be specific.

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I don't really see how "schedule" is even brought up when discussing these two teams in comparison to one another. TCU and Baylor played schedules that are as identical to each other as is possible really.

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Except TCU played a pretty good Minnesota team OOC. Baylor, not so much