Total Defense (Top 50)

3-Alabama (DC is also the LB coach)
8-Ole Miss (DC is also the LB coach)
13-Florida (DC is also the LB coach)
14-LSU (DC is also the LB coach)
16-Georgia (DC is also the secondary coach)
19-Tennessee (DC is also the LB coach)
26-Auburn (DC is also the LB coach)
40-Kentucky (DC is also the LB coach)

Scoring Defense (Top 50)

1-Ole Miss (DC is also the LB coach)
3-Alabama (DC is also the LB coach)
8-LSU (DC is also the LB coach)
13-Auburn (DC is also the LB coach)
19-Mississippi State (DC is also the LB coach)
19-Georgia (DC is also the secondary coach)
29-Tennessee (DC is also the LB coach)
30-Missouri (DC is also the LB coach)
37-Kentucky (DC is also the LB coach)

The defenses who don't have a DC who coaches one of the positions?

Texas A&M (69th in scoring defense, 81st in total defense)
South Carolina (80th in total defense, 91st in scoring defense)
Vanderbilt (75th in total defense, 98th in scoring defense)

What does that tell us? Each of those defenses I mentioned that are in the top 50 have an identity. Their defenses are built around a position group and the other positions complement that group. Georgia, as the exception, is built around their secondary while the others are built around their linebackers.

If we're going to build around the defensive line, then make Terry Price the defensive coordinator and build the defense around the line.

That would make too much sense for Sumlin. Saban would have already canned Snyder after that Duke game.

So you're saying we should fire Terry Price and have Snyder coach the defensive line too? I agree that we need to shake things up but that may be too bold of a move.

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So you're saying we should fire Terry Price and have Snyder coach the defensive line too? I agree that we need to shake things up but that may be too bold of a move.

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This is actually very interesting

Very interesting data. The next four games and a bowl game will pass very quickly and then many decisions will be made going forward. For now if I were an A&M coach I would recruit like my job depended on it.

When Snyder was the defensive coordinator at Ohio State, he was also the linebackers coach. When Snyder was the defensive coordinator at South Florida, he was also the linebackers coach.

Why then do we have a defensive line coach, linebackers coach, and secondary coach?

Out of all three of the coordinators, only one (Snyder) doesn't coach a position as well. Spavital coaches quarterbacks and Banks coaches Tight Ends.

I don't think Snyder was ever DC at Ohio State

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I don't think Snyder was ever DC at Ohio State

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I don't think Snyder was ever DC at Ohio State

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Snyder was DC at Ohio State, but for only one year.

He was LB coach when they won the NC.

Snyder took over for Dantoni after they won the NC. The last year Dantoni was there Ohio State was in the top 10 in scoring and total defense. After Snyder took over at DC, Ohio st dropped into the 40s in total defense with largely the same roster. Snyder is awesome!!

A coach doesn't have to re-invent the wheel to be innovatiive, have swagger, and win...

Isn't T Price a good coach?

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Isn't T Price a good coach?

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Better than Snyder

Where is Arkansas on the list?

Does it help or hurt your example?

Arkansas' DC is also their secondary coach

3 guesses as to what position group Slocum and all of his DCs coached during his tenure.

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Isn't T Price a good coach?

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Better than Snyder

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3 guesses as to what position group Slocum and all of his DCs coached during his tenure.

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DB?

Slocum coached the linebackers, as did Tuberville, Davie, and Hankwitz.

What was total defense like during those years?

I was only able to get back to 1989 on the NCAA website.

1989 - Scoring defense (29), Total defense (13) <Davie>
1990 - Scoring defense (28), Total defense (19) <Davie>
1991 - Scoring defense (7), Total defense (1) <Davie>
1992 - Scoring defense (9), Total defense (21) <Davie>
1993 - Scoring defense (2), Total defense (3) <Davie>
1994 - Scoring defense (4), Total defense (5) <Tuberville>
1995 - Scoring defense (3), Total defense (3) <Bennett>
1996 - Scoring defense (38), Total defense (33) <Bennett>
1997 - Scoring defense (16), Total defense (19) <Hankwitz>
1998 - Scoring defense (10), Total defense (10) <Hankwitz>
1999 - Scoring defense (19), Total defense (13) <Hankwitz>
2000 - Scoring defense (10), Total defense (25) <Hankwitz>
2001 - Scoring defense (13), Total defense (10) <Hankwitz>
2002 - Scoring defense (42), Total defense (35) <Hankwitz>

The seasons in which we were outside the top 30 in EITHER category are highlighted. Slocum purged his staff after the 1996 season and was fired after the 2002 season. A&M went 6-6 both years.

The count!

I heard Tim Brando the other day say that he'd never heard of a DL coach going on to be a good HC (I think the conversation was about Muschamp). Don't know if it's true, but it was an interesting comment.

Based on what's posted above, maybe you ought to go with a LB coach as DC. That kind of makes sense really--LB's must assist both DBs and DLs, so LB coaches probably do have a more well-rounded perspective on defensive play.

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Based on what's posted above, maybe you ought to go with a LB coach as DC

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We did. Snyder was a linebackers coach. The issue was that, since 2002, every one of our defensive coordinators has not been required to coach a position. They've been hands off the position groups, so to speak.

Torbush didn't coach any of the positions while DC
Darnell didn't coach any of the positions while DC
Kines didn't coach any of the positions while DC
DeRuyter didn't coach any of the positions while DC
Snyder hasn't coached any of the positions as DC

Easily the most interesting post I've seen on this board since last Saturday, OP. Thanks for the info.

Good post

Kirby Smart doesn't coach the linebackers this year. During the spring or summer he was switched to the safeties (Saban coaches the corners). Kevin Steele was moved from recruiting operations back to an on field coaching role as the linebackers coach.

This begs the question. Is this year's offense worse than the Slocum offenses?

I don't think it's the offense. It's the whole team. There is no drive for perfection, no execution. There is nothing.

This team rolled over when bama hit 10 points.

I miss not having a defense. One of my concerns when we hired Sumlin was that he isn't a defenseive coach. The 12th Man and a great defense is an extremely tough combination.